Another money grab...

[TeresaWen]

Things that are getting old

1) Assuming all bad behavior at Disney is somehow alcohol related
2) the belief that alcohol availability will lead to nothing but trouble
3) adults who enjoy a cocktail are anti family
4) people who drink do so to get stupid drunk
5) the "I don't need alcohol to have fun" superiority attitude - assuming anyone who has a cocktail apparently can't have a good time without one

 

[mickeyluv'r]

1. I bought a Groot cup at the Liberty Inn in June. There were several beverages offered to fill it, one of which was a bourbon spiked frozen Coke. However, if you ordered that, they would not serve it inside the cup. You had to take the cup and the drink separately. Once you got outside, you could pour the drink into the cup. If you just wanted your Groot filled with Diet Coke, the restaurant would do that. so the truth is that they are being exceedingly cautious in order NOT to be seen as marketing alcohol to kids.

2. Actually it is not Disney's business to anticipate whether someone will or won't have self-control. That is why they have security. There are also multiple instances of assault or other security issues where alcohol wasn't involved at all. That is what sometimes happens when there are so many people in one place.

3. "Disney shouldn't sell alcohol because some people have bad experiences with alcohol" sounds good, but there are a lot of things people have bad experiences with. They can't let tons of people in and provide a bad-experience-free product at the same time.

4. MADD is about drunk driving, which is a crime...not about ordering a cocktail in a theme park.

1. Your paragraph one doesn't answer my question. You wrote to defend WDW's current practices, but I wasn't questioning WDW's current practices.

2. Your second paragraph doesn't make sense to me. WDW anticipates bad/uncontrolled guest behavior all the time, and not just where alcohol is concerned. Security is all about anticipating guests who lack self-control (alcohol or no). Heck, WDW is full of signs warning their customers not to go on rides if they are pregnant/have assorted health problems. Those signs are very much in anticipation of guests not showing self-restraint. They don't want to be liable when their customers make bad choices.

3. Um, I never said anything remotely like that. Of course there are going to be misbehaving customers at WDW. That's actually what I said.

4. Um, yes, drinking and driving is a crime. That's what I was saying. You think it is impossible for someone to be DUI on WDW property? That doesn't make sense.

 

[Jadyreen1282]

Things that are getting old

1) Assuming all bad behavior at Disney is somehow alcohol related
2) the belief that alcohol availability will lead to nothing but trouble
3) adults who enjoy a cocktail are anti family
4) people who drink do so to get stupid drunk
5) the "I don't need alcohol to have fun" superiority attitude - assuming anyone who has a cocktail apparently can't have a good time without one

Number 4?...well..uh...we....nevermind

 

[BayouQueen]

Things that are getting old

1) Assuming all bad behavior at Disney is somehow alcohol related
2) the belief that alcohol availability will lead to nothing but trouble
3) adults who enjoy a cocktail are anti family
4) people who drink do so to get stupid drunk
5) the "I don't need alcohol to have fun" superiority attitude - assuming anyone who has a cocktail apparently can't have a good time without one

Was there an older thread somewhere where these opinions were expressed?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Oh my goodness, I did a quick search, and this popped up!

A FL congressman's wife was arrested this past April at WDW for "disorderly intoxication."


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news.../os-darren-soto-wife-arrested-0402-story.html

I'm really trying to figure out where you're going with this. Over 50million people (that's several million short I just don't want to search for the most recent 2017 attendance numbers) visit WDW parks as a whole each year for the last several years but sure if you want to search and search and search for stories of public intoxication have at it. I'm also fairly certain that people can easily 'pre-game' if they feel like they want to-it doesn't mean they have to purchase alcohol inside a park in order to show up drunk.

 

[TeresaWen]

Was there an older thread somewhere where these opinions were expressed?

Many of the opinions expressed here and in every "oh no alcohol" thread. Posting a link to an article about one alcohol related indecent is one example. Equating "family friendly" to alcohol free is another.

 

[BayouQueen]

Many of the opinions expressed here and in every "oh no alcohol" thread. Posting a link to an article about one alcohol related indecent is one example. Equating "family friendly" to alcohol free is another.

I wondered...because people really came out swinging their bats on this thread, but I just saw it as a discussion of whether there are getting to be too many liquor outlets and whether the booze should be limited to certain areas — valid topics for discussion. I haven’t heard anybody here say, “No Booze, No Where, No How.”

In any case, there have been some interesting posts here, some with food for thought and some just mean. Someone brought up the point that there are more food AND beverage outlets being added all the time, in order to better serve the increasing crowds. That makes a lot of sense to me, so I won’t panic that AK is going to become a pub crawl. I really wouldn’t like to see that happen.

And that’s it for me here on this thread.

 

[FCDub]

Absolutely mental thread.

Don't like alcohol in the parks? Don't drink it and leave people who do enjoy their thing. If they're drunk and disorderly, let security handle it.

 

[maxiesmom]

Absolutely mental thread.

Don't like alcohol in the parks? Don't drink it and leave people who do enjoy their thing. If they're drunk and disorderly, let security handle it.

But but I want to sit and judge those who don't do things the way I think they should!!!!

You could also swap out alcohol for stroller. That is another subject where people seem to think they know what you should do with regards to your own family.

 

[Cramden]

I miss the "They changed the Fish" thread.

 

[bladiator]

No, but you seem to want to dictate where, when, and how much.

Everyone knows it’s your opinion. No one is confused about that. Most just disagree with it. For some reason you won’t accept that.

Actually the problem is .....

Your opinion and you are welcome to it. Many of us disagree, and resent your presenting it as a fact. It is not a fact, it is your opinion.

As a big time lover of the drinky-drinks, I'm considerably let down by all the butthurtedness in this thread. How does this opinion hurt anyone?

 

[Nancyg56]

Actually the problem is .....



As a big time lover of the drinky-drinks, I'm considerably let down by all the butthurtedness in this thread. How does this opinion hurt anyone?

I think that it was presented as more of an absolute fact than an opinion, and that is what rubbed people wrong. I know I resented the overall tome of this poster's "opinion." I usually don't care enough to respond, but this one drew me in.

 

[Scifidiner]

At this point all the horses, cows, chickens, ducks, goats, and mice are long gone from the barn to worry about that door. One more place that serves booze is a drop in the bucket at this point. Personally I like the variety of options even though I don't drink that much anymore. As expensive as alcoholic drinks are in WDW I really can't imagine it is that big of a problem. WDW would not be my choice if my express purpose was to get torqued.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

as far as I can tell, nobody has presented an actual good reason to 1) have fewer outlets selling alcohol on Disney property (I am assuming Disney Springs is included in this) and 2) confine alcohol sales to certain venues, such as restaurants.

 

[FCDub]

But but I want to sit and judge those who don't do things the way I think they should!!!!

You could also swap out alcohol for stroller. That is another subject where people seem to think they know what you should do with regards to your own family.

I see all these people complaining about older kids in strollers and ... I guess I just don't enough what other people are doing to notice stuff like that.

 

[Farro]

I miss the "They changed the Fish" thread.

All the people who hate tilapia are now drowning their sorrows in booze. That's the real money grab. Disney is an evil genius.

 

[Jadyreen1282]

I miss the "They changed the Fish" thread.

I love that one. I thought it was going to come to blows over there. Loved it.

 

[Jen1995]

I guess it should come as no surprise at this point that Disney has added yet another lounge . This time at Restaurantasaurus at AK . It has become ridiculous how many places alcohol is available in the parks . This is a blatant attempt yet again by Disney to take advantage of almost any revenue generating stream regardless of its potential consequences . Look , I know the arguments on Disney's side , "they're a business , they need to keep profits up"..."alcohol isn't a problem at Disney"...why shouldn't I be able to enjoy an adult beverage if I want to as long as I'm responsible about it ?" These are all valid arguments to a point . There is a time and place for almost everything and I believe that EP is the perfect place for an abundance of bars,lounges,beer and wine stands . I also believe that HS is also another place this fits though on a much smaller scale . Hey,I even believe that AK & MK can and should serve alcohol at all of their TS restaurants . DS another perfect fit for as many bars ,lounges,and stands as they want . I just feel that as Disney continues to make alcohol more easily accessible in their parks more and more problems will inevitably follow and eventually make the parks less and less family friendly .

I am the first to hold Disney accountable for decisions that are solely about money that don't benefit the consumer, but it this circumstance, I think they are bowing to a lot of guest demand. People are on vacation and they want to drink and yes, it's easy money for Disney. But Disney wouldn't be making all that easy money if there wasn't a lot of demand.

 

[tex1989]

I suppose I have never really thought twice about alcohol served at Disney. It is what it is. I drink and actually appreciate the fact that I can get a drink at most places in WDW. Then again I don't get crazy drunk but then again I do appreciate the fact that someone else is doing the driving. It's one of the things I love about vacationing there. I also love the fact that I can drink stuff I would not be able to get at home without some effort and experimentation. Must do's every trip for us are Grand Marnier Slushies, Dole Whip with Coconut Rum, Beer in Germany, Exotic Margritas in Mexico, Paradisio 37 house beer, etc. I don't see it as a money grab but rather a way to attract more people because they are broadening the range of vacationers they are serving. In all my trips with our kids as they grew up and finally reached drinking age Disney is absolutley strict on proof of age and I have never worried about underage drinking (unless parents were buying for them but they even question that by limiting the number of drinks you can buy, usually 2) because they check ID's religiously.

Others have said it and I agree, it's a personal choice and at such time as it is more than you can take, then take your vacation dollars elsewhere. If enough do then they will change the policy. However given the path America is on given the legalization of marijuana everywhere I don't think it will have any effect.

 

[kaytieeldr]

This

I just feel that as Disney continues to make alcohol more easily accessible in their parks more and more problems will inevitably follow and eventually make the parks less and less family friendly .

Belies this

did not say nor imply that any place that serves alcohol(like WDW) is not family friendly