Another day, another mass shooting

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Four people shot at the Bacchus parade here in New Orleans tonight, including a young girl. Everyone is still alive as of now, no word yet on their condition. When are we going to say enough is enough???
https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/...ting/289-51bc7208-8668-476e-9b7a-b7f4c10a2ad2
I just got home from bacchus & in the car, I literally just said how it seemed everyone had behaved this weekend.

Ftr, not sure this is the typical mass shooting as much as typical Nola crime-related violence. That’s a pretty rough area up there. Not any less sad for the victims.
 

I just got home from bacchus & in the car, I literally just said how it seemed everyone had behaved this weekend.

Ftr, not sure this is the typical mass shooting as much as typical Nola crime-related violence. Not any less sad for the victims.
Hard to say, because that's the St. Charles part of the route. Haven't most of the past typical violent events happened more around the Canal area? But either way, it's still a mass shooting. Four people shot at a parade that the world attends seems to me to be a mass shooting, regardless of the "why."

And honestly, not directing this at you specifically, but the fact that we've gotten to the point that we have to discuss the semantics of what qualifies as a "typical mass shooting" says volumes about this country as a whole :(
 
Hard to say, because that's the St. Charles part of the route. Haven't most of the past typical violent events happened more around the Canal area? But either way, it's still a mass shooting. Four people shot at a parade that the world attends seems to me to be a mass shooting, regardless of the "why."
Up there gets very rough. We used to go up there when I was in high school but wouldn’t dare now for a night parade. Past Jackson, the st Charles route can get spotty. In fact, usually when they have shootings on the route, it’s around that area. Still sucks 😔. Like I said, I literally just said in the car that the weekend seemed to go well.

Eta: I was gonna say earlier that I also bet it was on the neutral ground side & I just looked at Nola.com & it was. Unfortunately, that type of crime is all too common over there.

It’s not that I don’t care, but it’s that the solution is much more complicated than gun control for those types of crimes. I would bet my house that the guns used out there were not purchased legally (if they were even purchased).
 
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Up there gets very rough. We used to go up there when I was in high school but wouldn’t dare now for a night parade. Past Jackson, the st Charles route can get spotty. In fact, usually when they have shootings on the route, it’s around that area. Still sucks 😔. Like I said, I literally just said in the car that the weekend seemed to go well.

It’s not that I don’t care, but it’s that the solution is much more complicated than gun control for those types of crimes. I would bet my house that the guns used out there were not purchased legally (if they were even purchased).
“Usually when they have shootings on the route”??
It’s happened before?
 
Up there gets very rough. We used to go up there when I was in high school but wouldn’t dare now for a night parade. Past Jackson, the st Charles route can get spotty. In fact, usually when they have shootings on the route, it’s around that area. Still sucks 😔. Like I said, I literally just said in the car that the weekend seemed to go well.

Eta: I was gonna say earlier that I also bet it was on the neutral ground side & I just looked at Nola.com & it was. Unfortunately, that type of crime is all too common over there.

It’s not that I don’t care, but it’s that the solution is much more complicated than gun control for those types of crimes. I would bet my house that the guns used out there were not purchased legally (if they were even purchased).
Take a step back and consider what you're saying. You're normalizing mass shooting as "just something that happens up there." I wasn't at Bacchus tonight, but I've watched a lot of parades from that section, and blessedly never witnessed a mass shooting. But that so isn't the point. Mass shootings should NEVER be normalized or accepted. And they should be labeled as such, each and every time. Full stop.
 
Take a step back and consider what you're saying. You're normalizing mass shooting as "just something that happens up there." I wasn't at Bacchus tonight, but I've watched a lot of parades from that section, and blessedly never witnessed a mass shooting. But that so isn't the point. Mass shootings should NEVER be normalized or accepted. And they should be labeled as such, each and every time. Full stop.
Respectfully, I disagree. This wasn’t a mass shooting as much as thugs shooting at each other & unfortunately innocent ppl were caught in the crossfire. They do it all the time here, including on the interstate (as I’m sure you know). It’s a HUGE problem, I definitely agree. However, it’s been a problem my whole life & I am 44. We are talking generations of this kinda violence. Only thing I can do is stay away from the areas where these things are most likely to occur.
 
WWL-tv report updated.

1 dead 4 injured. There were a couple of skirmishes earlier in the area . Not sure if they're related.

Son and his wife were near the scene. Shaken, but fine. His friend was closer, also shaken but fine.

They were parading all weekend and having a great time.
 
The craziest part is that the thread title could have referred to any of several weekend shootings.

@LSUmiss , even if the NOLA shooting (and the GA one, from the sounds of it, and maybe Memphis as well) doesn't fit the "typical" mass shooting, gun control is still a big part of the answer. Virtually every illegal weapon on the streets in the US was purchased legally and then either stolen, handed off, or resold into the black market. So while gun control wouldn't be an immediate fix, things like safe storage and mandatory theft/resale reporting would restrict the flow of guns to the streets (and also keep them out of the hands of underage shooters, whether of the school shooter or teenage tough-guy type).
 
WWL-tv report updated.

1 dead 4 injured. There were a couple of skirmishes earlier in the area . Not sure if they're related.

Son and his wife were near the scene. Shaken, but fine. His friend was closer, also shaken but fine.

They were parading all weekend and having a great time.
I'm so glad everyone is OK. My friends and family are as well.

ETA: Five victims, not four, and one has passed away, according to the latest update. https://www.nola.com/news/crime_pol...iclelink#uid=0f22a31d2c6f33da594458a1a834a5a8
 
I just got home from bacchus & in the car, I literally just said how it seemed everyone had behaved this weekend.

Ftr, not sure this is the typical mass shooting as much as typical Nola crime-related violence. That’s a pretty rough area up there. Not any less sad for the victims.
Of all the countless gun violence threads there have been on the CB over the years, this has got to be the most gobsmacking post I've ever read. When any outcome of your gun-control debates can only ever hope to maybe stem the tide of the massacre of precious children, innocent mall shoppers and public revelers, but they're all still at risk of being mowed down by "regular" gun violence at any time, I'd say all hope is lost. It's incomprehensible to the rest of us, world-wide. :sad: Ridicule thoughts-and-prayers if you will; it seems to be about all you have left.
 
Of all the countless gun violence threads there have been on the CB over the years, this has got to be the most gobsmacking post I've ever read. When any outcome of your gun-control debates can only ever hope to maybe stem the tide of the massacre of precious children, innocent mall shoppers and public revelers, but they're all still at risk of being mowed down by "regular" gun violence at any time, I'd say all hope is lost. It's incomprehensible to the rest of us, world-wide. :sad: Ridicule thoughts-and-prayers if you will; it seems to be about all you have left.
This. This is what I was trying to say, but you said it so much better. It terrifies me how much we in the US have made "regular" gun violence normal and acceptable. The FBI defines "mass shooting," or technically an "active shooter event" as an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm." (Source: Britannica https://www.britannica.com/topic/mass-shooting).

Let's see: Five victims. Check. One of the most heavily attended parades in the world. Check. Use of a firearm. Check. Yep, it seems to have been a mass shooting, or active shooter event, according to our own FBI.

Whether or not something is a mass shooting does not by any legal definition turn on whether it was "typical" violence for a place or time. It doesn't hinge on whether it fits neatly into a gun control narrative. And it doesn't matter what the shooter's motivation was. Person has gun. Person shoots gun in a crowded area with the intent to kill people. People are injured and/or killed. This meets the legal definition of mass shooting, and it should not be acceptable to anyone, anywhere, at any time, no matter WHO the shooter was, where they got the gun, or who their original target was.
 
Sadly, states are going in the opposite direction. No permits needed at all to own and carry, allowing minors to openly carry guns with no adult supervision, as if it is not wild west enough now.
And the crazy part is that the wild west wasn't like that. You had to check your guns with the sheriff to enter nearly any major town (and lots of smaller ones). Sure, people snuck guns in sometimes, but just having the gun in your possession could get you locked up, never mind if you actually pulled the trigger in a public space.
 
I just flew into Los Angeles last night from a wonderful week in snowy, beautiful Ottawa, Canada. I checked my Twitter news each day I was away. There was either a mass or major shooting every day last week somewhere in this country. Most don;t even make the news anymore. My Canadian colleagues said they are in constant disbelief about our gun violence. Seeking a sponsor in Canada for retirement!
 
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