Another college thread...safety

wishesuponastar

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We went to one college that has a sketchy area surrounding it. Another college we are going to is in a list of high crime cities in America. I sure hope my daughter doesn't go to either one of those but if she does how do you cope with the worry?
 
Some great colleges are located in some very old areas, which can have more crime.

Our oldest went to a very respected private college located in a rough neighborhood. Sure, I had moments where I was unnerved by it. But the school has a great security program staffed by off duty Kansas City police officers. He even took a couple of night classes this past year as a senior.

You talk to them about vigilance and safety, you encourage them to listen to the security officers, then you swallow hard and send them out the door.
 
This is in the category of you just never know.

My kids both went to the state university in an urban area. There was some crime because of the proximity to Washington, DC. But, we live in a rural area near a neighboring states university. That school, in a much smaller less urban area had a murder where as my kids' school did not.

I found that I worry about my kids regardless of their circumstance. You just can't worry about things out of your control.
 
You just can't worry about things out of your control.


This more than anything. Control what you can (have a talk about safety) then move on. Worrying about something does not put you more in control of the uncontrollable.
 

Worry, in most cases, is completely illogical and does nothing to help the situation. Try to think of things logically. It an area has a certain crime rate, think about the statistic of NOT being involved in a crime. It will always be much higher than being involved in one. Maybe that will help to set your mind at ease.

To me it's not much different than worry about flying or lightning striking. I know that there is a chance the plane will crash, but the chance is MUCH, much higher that it will not.

A mother's heart will always worry about her child, but it generally doesn't help either one.
 
Our kids have had to worry much more about traffic and walking around campus without getting hit by a car, bus or bike much more worrying than crime off campus.
 
having grown up in an area with a bad reputation (high crime, high drug use, high teenage pregnancy, high unemployment) and lived in a similar area in London, I would say its not all bad.

I have found that these areas, while having alot of problems, also have a high community spirit and the people there form very tight knit communities. I have also found that with areas that have bad reputations, the media report only the bad stuff, you will hear about the crime, the muggings, the shootings, the burglaries BUT you wont hear about the neighbourhood projects , the charity events, the kids who come from bad families but grow up to be community leaders etc etc.

That being said though, while I have never been a victim of any sort of crime, I am very streetwise and aware of personal saftey, more so than my friends who grew up in more affluent areas.

It is possible that your daughter may choose to go to one of these colleges in "sketchy" areas, they may offer s specialised course or a very high standard course she is interested in. If that is the case, then be the be the adult and put her education first. Yes you will worry but you can prepare her for going to college in a "sketchy" area.

You can teach her about personal safety.
For example any handbag I own, is zip top and I carry it with my hand resting on the zip. I don't walk around with my phone in my hand. I keep my phone in my zip locked bag, not loose in hoodie tops or jeans pockets. When I go to cafes, bars and restaurants, I keep my bag on my knees or between my feet. I don't hang my bag on the back of a chair. This deters opportunist pickpockets.

When I walk around town, I am very observant. If I am walking down a street I haven't been on, I make a quick mental note of landmarks, buildings etc.

When I am public transport, again I keep my bag close to me, with my hand resting on the zip. I people watch, both out the window and other passengers, familiarising myself with the bus route and random passengers. For example, on my morning bus journey to work, I can recognise many of the passengers and know which stop they get off at.

I also keep an uncapped spray deodorant handy in my bag.

If I am out and about when it is dark, I always stay in well lit, busy areas. When I am out and about, I am very aware of my surroundings and noise and shadows. I never listen to my mp3 player when walking around, either during the day and especially not at night.

If I am public transport when it is dark, I stay downstairs (we have double decker buses) near the front of the bus.

Another trick I use if I am in an unfamiliar area is to research the area and map out my route on Google maps before I go to that area. Then when I get off the bus I know exactly where I am going and don't look like I have never been there before. Locals walk with a purpose and confidence, so that's what I do. I walk confidently and fast paced, like I have walked down that street hundreds of times.

I also try to dress like a local. One thing which really marks you out as a non local, and therefore a possible crime target is clothes. It used to be one of my favourite ways to pass the time while waiting for friends in London, spot the tourist. As someone who lived in London, I just wore my everyday clothes when shopping or meeting my friends in the tourist areas of London. It was really easy to spot the tourists cos they would be wearing their good clothes or holiday clothes!

There are lots of tricks like this, to make your daughter be aware of her personal safety and be streetwise. Also remember that "good" areas have crime too, its just not talked about as much as crime in "bad" areas!
 
I agree with do what you can to teach them to be safe, and then try hard not to worry about what you cannot control--largely by reminding yourself of how the odds are stacked in favour of goodness even in those areas, as a PP said already. I do it every summer when I send DD back (and now she'll beg going back to live for university) to the states, where she is 16 times more likely to be killed by a fire arm than she is here in Germany (and then I work at not obsessing over the far too many news stories that feed that fear).
 
Truthfully, this topic didn't even come up when we were looking at colleges for our two. Both our kids go to school at state universities that aren't exactly in great areas....to get to them you drive through disavantaged areas that look really run down. There are crime alerts sent to our email (or phones) occasionally, but usually for off-campus (but close) problems. Our kids haven't felt unsafe at all. I don't really have any advice except to not worry about things you can't control. Let you student know that they should always walk with a group at night or talk with someone on the phone as they move across campus if necessary to walk alone. Good luck OP.
 
The first two years my daughter lived at college I wasn't hearing much about crime. Then this past year it seemed like week after week there was something that came up on the alert, including rape, abduction attempts and a shooter at their library. The campus police did seem to do a very good job and also seemed to readily team up with the county and city police. I always stressed to my daughter never to walk alone at night. She never told me of any incident where she felt unsafe and I think she got a little weary of hearing me go on and on about it but that's what we do.
 
I was glad when my son chose a college in a small town. We live near a very high crime area and it was nice to know he wouldn't have to deal with that while away at college. If he had chosen to go to school near a high crime area, then he would have been prepared because he's grown up close to that type of environment. If he had not, I would have gone over precautions with him to make him aware.

I think people who don't live near high crime areas can have a sense of security that isn't there for people who live near certain areas. When I visit my mom, she laughs at me when I am super careful with my valuables. Well, I've been robbed a couple of times so I will always be super careful. I know people who have had cars stolen, been car jacked, been robbed, etc. It's makes you vigilant and careful. I would recommend going over ways to be careful with a student who is not from a high crime area and ends up going to college near that type of area.
 
I remember several killings of Chinese students attending the University of Southern California, which is in a well known high crime area of Los Angeles. One parent sued the University for what she thought was false advertising. Their brochure called it an "urban" setting, and apparently many Chinese equate large cities with relative safety from violent crime.

If you see the place now, it looks like a walled city. They've really been trying to do something about the image by putting up fences and security gates.
 
I think people who don't live near high crime areas can have a sense of security that isn't there for people who live near certain areas. When I visit my mom, she laughs at me when I am super careful with my valuables. Well, I've been robbed a couple of times so I will always be super careful. I know people who have had cars stolen, been car jacked, been robbed, etc. It's makes you vigilant and careful. I would recommend going over ways to be careful with a student who is not from a high crime area and ends up going to college near that type of area.

yes I agree. When you live in or near a high crime area, you unconsciously just become more aware of your personal safety. For example, I have seen sooo many women with open handbags, or men with their wallets in their back pockets and I just think omg, have you no idea that you are pick pockets ideal target.
 
yes I agree. When you live in or near a high crime area, you unconsciously just become more aware of your personal safety. For example, I have seen sooo many women with open handbags, or men with their wallets in their back pockets and I just think omg, have you no idea that you are pick pockets ideal target.

Also, I have pulled up in a parking space at a mall and moved due to the people in the car next to me. There was a shooting at the mall recently and it's not even in the bad part of town. I think the best thing a kid who moves to a high crime area for school can do is to never leave anything valuable unattended and to always go out in groups at night when going off campus. Be aware of your surroundings and leave the area if you feel uncomfortable.
 
I had three children attend college. All of their schools had areas of campus that were realtively close to not so great parts of town. That being said, none of them every had anything bad happen while they were there. Crime can happen anywhere. We had friends have TVs stolen from a lake house that is out in the middle of nowhere. Everyone (not just college kids) needs to take smart safety precautions. Make sure your kids are not out late at night by themselves. Don't flash lots of cash or credits cards. Don't leave dorm or apartment doors unlocked. Basic safery measures can prevent a lot of issues.
 
Thank you to all of you for your time to post safety measures and your experience in guiding your child. I grew up near a high crime city but been away from there for over 30 years....my kids have not had the same experience as me as they grew up in a safe suburban town. We should have been preparing them for worst case scenarios but it's never too late, right?
 
Thank you to all of you for your time to post safety measures and your experience in guiding your child. I grew up near a high crime city but been away from there for over 30 years....my kids have not had the same experience as me as they grew up in a safe suburban town. We should have been preparing them for worst case scenarios but it's never too late, right?

you are welcome :) Teaching them to be street wise and about personal safety is not scarmongering, its giving them life skills. Until now they may not have needed those life skills but as they grow up and have experiences away from the safe environment you created for them, they need to know how to deal with different situations
 
Thank you to all of you for your time to post safety measures and your experience in guiding your child. I grew up near a high crime city but been away from there for over 30 years....my kids have not had the same experience as me as they grew up in a safe suburban town. We should have been preparing them for worst case scenarios but it's never too late, right?

I think they can be safe, even going to school near a high crime area. If they go out in groups, then they are much less likely to be a victim of any type of crime. That is the number one thing I would tell them. Also, while it's usually fine to react to a stranger being a jerk in a safe area, I would avoid getting into an argument with someone in a high crime area. It's not worth jeopardizing your personal safety.
 
The school DD attends had a girl kidnapped and never found about 20 years ago. It has an odd back story so its on the true crime shows often. We had long talks about what to do and where to avoid. She grew up in an urban area and went to a pretty rough middle school. We went out of district for high school.

Her school is in a bad neighborhood in a rough town, but the school has built a bubble around it and because its small everyone pretty much knows everybody. She told about a bonfire they had and an unknown man was hanging around and he was escorted out very quickly.
 
Our daughter's college is in a questionable area. Mostly we dealt with worry about texting her every day to make sure she wasn't dead. Although it was mostly just random conversations. We didn't nag her. Plus, she never walked around campus at night by herself, which was a plus, and while the area is bad, on campus was very safe.
 


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