Annual Passholder Previews REGISTRATION LINK IN FIRST POST-EVENT FULLY BOOKED

[Kerrie T]

Sorry if this has been asked and answered somewhere in this thread: My two minor sons and I all have Platinum AP's that are activated. I am trying to determine if all 3 of us should be able to register for the SWGE preview once it is announced and I am confused by the wording below.

• If you are an eligible Passholder and would like to register a Guest to accompany you, that Guest must also have a valid Platinum, Platinum Plus or Premier annual pass, be listed on your Family & Friends list and have opted to share "All My Plans" with you.

Based on the wording, it would seem that 1 of us gets to register and take "a guest" (implying one guest) but they must also be an AP at Platinum or above. So would I expect to be the one to get the invite and have to choose 1 of my 2 sons to bring? Or should I expect that they get their own invitation for being a Platinum AP? I am confused as to why each of us wouldn't get an invitation (the cost of the Platinum AP isn't impacted by age...my 6 year old's pass was equal to that of my own) but the wording definitely doesn't lend itself to that interpretation.

TIA

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Sorry if this has been asked and answered somewhere in this thread: My two minor sons and I all have Platinum AP's that are activated. I am trying to determine if all 3 of us should be able to register for the SWGE preview once it is announced and I am confused by the wording below.

• If you are an eligible Passholder and would like to register a Guest to accompany you, that Guest must also have a valid Platinum, Platinum Plus or Premier annual pass, be listed on your Family & Friends list and have opted to share "All My Plans" with you.

Based on the wording, it would seem that 1 of us gets to register and take "a guest" (implying one guest) but they must also be an AP at Platinum or above. So would I expect to be the one to get the invite and have to choose 1 of my 2 sons to bring? Or should I expect that they get their own invitation for being a Platinum AP? I am confused as to why each of us wouldn't get an invitation (the cost of the Platinum AP isn't impacted by age...my 6 year old's pass was equal to that of my own) but the wording definitely doesn't lend itself to that interpretation.

TIA

this is something a number of us have raised and the short answer is that we don't know for sure how it will play out

It definitely reads like you would have to choose one of your sons, but at the same time, minors aren't allowed to have their won MDE so it would be impossible for them to sign up themselves, so that doesn't seem right

So I think most of us are going with that you would have to be able to register all 3 of you just logically, but since the wording doesn't imply that we aren't 100% sure

 

[AngiTN]

As someone who has an unactivated annual pass...I still think it's time to drop this discussion. There's really no use in speculating about whether or not the pass will have to be active. They've said it before and had it not be true. Yes, it being on the website makes it look more official, but we STILL won't know for sure until whenever invites drop. Currently their systems don't seem to be able to differentiate between activated and non-activated (we've been told it must be activated to see hotel discounts, but that's not true either.) Just have to wait and see. I'm anxious about it too, but the question pops up every three pages or so and causes the same debate/responses each time.

Sorry that the repeat questions are bugging you. Unfortunately, not everyone who pops in reads all 150+ pages and doesn't see that the same question has been asked and answered many times. So it's going to be asked and people are going to answer, the same things. It's not fair to new posters to just ignore their questions

this is something a number of us have raised and the short answer is that we don't know for sure how it will play out

It definitely reads like you would have to choose one of your sons, but at the same time, minors aren't allowed to have their won MDE so it would be impossible for them to sign up themselves, so that doesn't seem right

So I think most of us are going with that you would have to be able to register all 3 of you just logically, but since the wording doesn't imply that we aren't 100% sure

One thing we do know for certain is good wording on the website is not a strong suit of Disney. Heck, they even had contradictory info on their website regarding Rider Swap for ages. May still be that way for all I know. I don't think the people who write the website are authors that are really good at conveying their points. To me it reads like whoever writes for them writes as if they assume people can read between the lines or doesn't pick apart words to minute details. Or can read their minds and just understands what they mean. That history makes this whole thing even more uncertain.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

One thing we do know for certain is good wording on the website is not a strong suit of Disney. Heck, they even had contradictory info on their website regarding Rider Swap for ages. May still be that way for all I know. I don't think the people who write the website are authors that are really good at conveying their points. To me it reads like whoever writes for them writes as if they assume people can read between the lines or doesn't pick apart words to minute details. Or can read their minds and just understands what they mean. That history makes this whole thing even more uncertain.

I also think the one area that probably does check wording is legal, so they are going to want it sort of as vague as possible so that people can't hold them to things. So what actually constitutes "a guest" well, it could be as wide or narrow as Disney ultimately decides it to be, but they word it to give themselves some wiggle room

 

[dachsie]

For those who don't have passes activated - I would still try when the link becomes available. It may still work and you will get in because by then your pass will be active.

 

[tlmadden73]

Did a few posts (continuing to discuss the ONE GUEST issue) disappear? I thought I made a response and dont see that .. or the post I responded to. *shrug* .. not relevant to the watch, but just continuing the current questions. This thread isnt really JUST a watch thread anymore (after 3 weeks!)

So tomorrow is 30 days before the first day an AP preview is theorized to begin (August 11th). While I think realistically it will probably be more like the week of August 18th ..I would hope we would see the ability to make reservations in the next 7 days .. giving people at least 30 days to plan an impromptu trip there (or change an existing trip). I know its all about when the LAND is ready, and not about giving guests enough notice, but hey .. Disney didnt NEED to announce these previews 3 weeks ago. Why didnt they just wait until they knew more what they would do before annoucing there would be previews at all?

At this point (after 3+ weeks of watching from their first annoucement), just announcing WHEN the reservations will be available (they dont have to announce the actual dates yet) would be helpful. Hard to believe they will just enable something this highly anticipated (albeit to a select group) without any notice.

 

[GADisneyDad14]

A couple of requests for those participating in the thread.

The DIS is an open forum and discussion of all topics is welcome. Per DIS guidelines, we do not believe in censorship.

However, given the context of this situation and the goal of this thread, the moderators may remove certain posts (and quoted posts) deemed off topic or unhelpful.

Some things to keep in mind:

1) Let’s try to avoid posting information from phone, chat, or e-mails with CMs from various Disney departments. While we appreciate people wanting to share what they have been told, it can lead to confusion or mis-information. We then debate who is right/wrong and it just goes around in circles. Unless your source is a WDW bus driver, don’t post it. (That last part is a joke, BTW). We should share information from official Disney sources - press releases, the Disney Parks Blog, the AP website, or similar. We will all find out soon enough how this thing is going to work anyway. And we should all be prepared to be flexible and decisive with whatever sign-up system ultimately presents itself.

2) Leave the moderating to the moderators. No need to respond to someone that posts an opinion about what should/shouldn’t be up for discussion.

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Thanks all.

 

[Lewisc]

Disney clearly states an activated annual pass is required. Universal requires an activated pass to obtain discounts on food and tours. Hotel is more flexible. I bought an AP at PBH. I couldn't get an AP discount for lunch at Citywalk on my way over to IoA. I'm not sure why so many posters don't think Disney means what it says. I know YMMV.

We don't know if Disney's system will be able to enforce the rule at time of reservation or during a subsequent audit.

Some posters don't think the "link" will be active until at least next week, after CMs begin training.

Disney would be happy if you took a quick trip to WDW this weekend. Activate your pass. Try it out. See how quickly you can earn AP discount $$$ at Disney Springs. Mouse gears. The Disney store at MCO even gives an AP discount.

edited to add You generally need your actual AP, not just magic band, and photo ID to get your discounts

 

[AngiTN]

Disney clearly states an activated annual pass is required. Universal requires an activated pass to obtain discounts on food and tours. Hotel is more flexible. I bought an AP at PBH. I couldn't get an AP discount for lunch at Citywalk on my way over to IoA. I'm not sure why so many posters don't think Disney means what it says. I know YMMV.

We don't know if Disney's system will be able to enforce the rule at time of reservation or during a subsequent audit.

Some posters don't think the "link" will be active until at least next week, after CMs begin training.

Disney would be happy if you took a quick trip to WDW this weekend. Activate your pass. Try it out. See how quickly you can earn AP discount $$$ at Disney Springs. Mouse gears. The Disney store at MCO even gives an AP discount.

edited to add You generally need your actual AP, not just magic band, and photo ID to get your discounts

Yep, to do anything but to purchase using an AP on MDE. MDE recognizes a purchased yet unactivated AP, just like it does any ticket, attached to the Guest. And since you'll be using MDE to register for the event, it totally leaves this as a huge question and not at all as black and white as Disney may think it is. Maybe it's not intended on their part? I know if you ask them, they will tell you an activated AP is required to purchase hotel discounts too. Which is not correct, again, due to MDE and the way it recognizes the AP

 

[tarak]

Yep, to do anything but to purchase using an AP on MDE. MDE recognizes a purchased yet unactivated AP, just like it does any ticket, attached to the Guest. And since you'll be using MDE to register for the event, it totally leaves this as a huge question and not at all as black and white as Disney may think it is. Maybe it's not intended on their part? I know if you ask them, they will tell you an activated AP is required to purchase hotel discounts too. Which is not correct, again, due to MDE and the way it recognizes the AP

Very true. What Disney says can be very different from its IT reality. The old shop parks app automatically added an AP discount to an order I placed and at the time all I had was a non-activated voucher. Maybe Disney means what it says on the passholder extras page. That doesn’t mean Disney’s IT will comply.

 

[Rickat96]

Previous AP reviews that were more than one day- were you able to register for multiple days?

 

[ReginaMBK]

Previous AP reviews that were more than one day- were you able to register for multiple days?

I don't know the exact answer, but if what you're getting at is the availability to do SWGE preview multiple days, the website makes it clear that it's just one:

• Platinum, Platinum Plus and Premier Passholders must register by making an online reservation for ONE event.

The capitalization is their use, not mine.

 

[AngiTN]

Previous AP reviews that were more than one day- were you able to register for multiple days?

No, an AP could sign up for 1 event time slot. If you tried to click the link again it informed you that you had already signed up, or else it just didn't give you any AP holders to sign up, I forget which now.

 

[Lewisc]

Very true. What Disney says can be very different from its IT reality. The old shop parks app automatically added an AP discount to an order I placed and at the time all I had was a non-activated voucher. Maybe Disney means what it says on the passholder extras page. That doesn’t mean Disney’s IT will comply.

The rule requiring an activated AP is crystal clear. The question is if it will be enforced by IT or will be on the honor system. Worse, Disney does an audit after the signup and cancels improper reservations.

 

[cakebaker]

The difference I see between using an AP shopping discount and registering for an event, making reservations or receiving special event discounts is that IT isn’t involved. No one checks to see if you actually have an ap other there to show your card and check your ID. Maybe Disney intends for AP’s to be activated in theory, but does nothing to insure it actually happens. The system sees you have an AP, it doesn’t discern that it’s not activated. I’m not the least concerned that they’d suddenly decide to check after the fact and since they never have before, it’s not a reasonable concern to me. After all, had I not read here I’d never know they changed the wording.

 

[btk2333]

The rule requiring an activated AP is crystal clear. The question is if it will be enforced by IT or will be on the honor system. Worse, Disney does an audit after the signup and cancels improper reservations.

While I agree with you, Disney has plenty of "crystal clear" rules that IT/Disney staff either cannot, or does not enforce.

There's also no guarantee at this point that event registration will even be open ahead of time. Maybe, they'll just open reservations the same day and go day by day for previews.

 

[lauradisneymad]

The rule requiring an activated AP is crystal clear. The question is if it will be enforced by IT or will be on the honor system. Worse, Disney does an audit after the signup and cancels improper reservations.

Would be concerning for anyone who has to make travel plans. Doesn’t effect me but I’d feel for someone booking flights etc to then have it cancelled

 

[lauradisneymad]

While I agree with you, Disney has plenty of "crystal clear" rules that IT/Disney staff either cannot, or does not enforce.

There's also no guarantee at this point that event registration will even be open ahead of time. Maybe, they'll just open reservations the same day and go day by day for previews.

For someone like me who lives in UK but qualifies that suck huge time

 

[AngiTN]

The rule requiring an activated AP is crystal clear. The question is if it will be enforced by IT or will be on the honor system. Worse, Disney does an audit after the signup and cancels improper reservations.

People can do whatever they want, of course, but if I had an activated AP I'd go through the sign-up. If MDE allows it, I'd sign up without one whit of worry about your idea that they'll cancel it later. They've always said the same thing, you can't do anything with an activated AP and they've never purged those who get discounts or signs up for something. Yeah, anything can change but they've always said it required one and never canceled things.

There is no question at all that you need it activated to USE it. Which includes going to the event.

 

[cakebaker]

People can do whatever they want, of course, but if I had an activated AP I'd go through the sign-up. If MDE allows it, I'd sign up without one whit of worry about your idea that they'll cancel it later. They've always said the same thing, you can't do anything with an activated AP and they've never purged those who get discounts or signs up for something. Yeah, anything can change but they've always said it required one and never canceled things.

There is no question at all that you need it activated to USE it. Which includes going to the event.

Same here. After all, if we paid attention to what they say is how it works we wouldn’t have dah discounts nor would my daughter have her ap room discount. If the system lets us sign up, we will. I’m really curious as to whether my daughter will get the email as she was told she would.