Andrea Yates hubby to remarry--what a low life

sandramaac

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This man should have been held and sentenced for reckless endangerment for the death of his kids. He was every bit aware (as were other family members, it just wasn't him) of how ill his wife was. I cannot believe that he was never brought before a court. Yes, it was Andrea who committed the crimes, but I feel he was every bit as guilty. I am glad her case will be brought before the court again. Though I am not sure what should become of her.

And for those who say, he suffered, he should be able to move on with his life, he wasn't the one who killed those kids, I say baloney. He knew she was capable of this act, and he should have never left her with those kids.
 
Well, from a literal standpoint we're ALL capable of doing what she did. It doesn't take some super powers to drown someone.

But most of us would never do something like that. I don't really think it was his fault.
 
Mental illness is so misunderstood, in general. In my experience, I've discovered that family members are often in denial of how "sick" their loved ones really are. Perhaps he really wasn't aware that his wifes' illness was that severe. Perhaps he wasn't actually that involved in her life? I'm not saying it's okay, but I'm also saying that we shouldn't necessarily demonize him, either. If we are saying this is partially his fault, should we also blame her parents, sisters, friends, etc?
 
That is infuriating!

When did he get a divorce from Andrea? I don't recall seeing that he had.

Worst of all, he's probably looking to have more children. :rolleyes:
 

wow, what a double standard...I've never once heard anyone blame a woman if the father flips out and kills the kids, the mother is always portrayed as a helpless victim..


how do we know what the husband was aware of , why is he guilty of anything..


knowing that someone is ill, doesn't mean knowing they are capable of homicide...

why shouldn't he move on....that's what women are always told to do...move on with your life and find a decent partner..
 
this man probably worked long hours to support this large family -
she wined and bickered like we all do - and he was in denial that it was a real issue -
thought it would deminish as things got better and the kids got older...

I agree with the poster is is a sad double standard....

They were divorced a year ago...

why should he NOT be allowed to have children? did HE actually kill anyone? I am sure he learned some very important lessons in all of it too...
 
Sorry, I don't agree with you at all. I don't think he was aware that she was as ill as she was, much less that she was capable of killing the children. She IS the only one who committed a crime, in my view. I don't see any reason why he shouldn't try and have another chance at a happy married life. I feel he was punished enough with the loss of his children.

I don't understand why he, and others like him, get blamed, unless it's to make all of us feel better . We assume someone surely should have been able to know something tragic was going to happen. I think it's a way of making sense out of something so senseless.
 
MICKEY88 said:
wow, what a double standard...I've never once heard anyone blame a woman if the father flips out and kills the kids, the mother is always portrayed as a helpless victim..


how do we know what the husband was aware , why is he guilty of anything..


knowing that someone is ill, doesn't mean knowing they are capable of homicide...

why shouldn't he move on....that's what women are always told to do...move on with your life and find a decent partner..
I totally agree.
 
Skatermom23 said:
Did I miss something? Why is he the bad guy? :confused3


Beats me. :confused3 Last I checked she was the one who murdered her kids....how could he have foreseen what she was capable of?! I say good for him and I hope he and his new wife ARE blessed with children...maybe it will help ease the pain of his loss. :guilty:
 
Good for him. I'm sure his life has been a living hell...why shouldn't he have a little happiness?
 
Andrea Yates had a long history of mental illness due to severe post partum depression. Her husband and she were advised not to have more children after the third one was born. She was on extremely strong anti-psychotic/anti depressant medications. She tried to commit suicide numerous times, and was in an inpatient mental hospital until a short time before the killings. She had told her family and doctors that she thought of killing herself or the children to save them from the evils of this world many times.

There is no way anyone can convince me that Andrea's husband (or other close family members) could NOT have known the extent of her illness or the possibility of her doing harm to herself or her children.

IMO, Andrea's ex is as responsible for what happened as she is. Even more so- he didn't have a debilitating mental illness clouding his judgement.
 
MomofKatie said:
IMO, Andrea's ex is as responsible for what happened as she is. Even more so- he didn't have a debilitating mental illness clouding his judgement.

so I guess he should have quit his job and sat home with her on a 24 hour vigilant suicide/triple homocide watch...
 
I hold nothing against him. I hope he goes on to have a wonderful life. His five children were murdered in cold blood. He did nothing wrong. Responsibility - be it because of mental illness - rests squarely on her shoulders.

Erin :)
 
Before we bash the family members, please consider this. We live in Texas-Houston to be exact. Texas is dead last in the mental health field. I have a son who is Bipolar and I can attest to the lack of care in this state. When we lived in Ohio I felt the Yates' husband was very guilty. Now after living here I still think he bears some responsibility but I feel sorry for all the family involved. See, down here unless you do kill someone there is no place (except private pay institutions at the tune of $2500.00 a month) to place the mentally ill. My ds is under a psychiatrist care and when he has an episode he goes to the hospital to get stabilized (usually 1-2 weeks) and then gets released. We're always playing with the meds to try and get it right. We've been to 3 doctors trying to find someone who isn't a nut case themselves. It's my understanding that Yates was under psychiatric care and her husband had family members come in and be with her while he worked. It's also my understanding that the morning that she killed those babies that the husband had to leave for work and his or her mother wasn't there yet, but he had to go. Now that wasn't good judgement but honestly I think he was doing the best he could. When you live with mental illness in your life 24/7 sometimes your judgement isn't the best, I know there have been times when ds was manic that I've made decisions that weren't the best. So please try not to judge either of the Yates-mental illness just rips the whole family up. Sometimes I wish I could "divorce" myself from ds-but that's another story.
 
It was not his fault at all. She murdered the kids. He lost his children because of her 'mental illness' if she even really has one. I think she's lying. I hope he does remarry and has more children because he lost so much.
 
I think he's creepy. I think he pushed a fragile woman over the edge and now gets to "start over". Whatever. I'm praying for Andrea and for her recovery and that she can forgive herself one day.
 
Sylvester McBean said:
so I guess he should have quit his job and sat home with her on a 24 hour vigilant suicide/triple homocide watch...

Good point. :confused3 somebody had to work. It sure wasn't gonna be her. I think if anyone needs to be held responsible it ought to be the psychiatrist. I believe I remember that she was taken off her meds only a few days before she had a total psychoitc break & killed her kids.

Actually, i don't think the husband could have foreseen this. When you are deep in such a terrible situation, life becomes "survival mode." The mentally ill person can see beyond themselves and the people around them often can't see past them either. Sure he knew she was sick, but did he really know just how sick she was? I'm sure if he thought for a second that she was going to kill the kids after he went to work, that he would have taken the day off and brought her to the hospital. When my then-18yo tried to commit suicide we didn't know until we were at the hospital that he actually tried to kill himself to keep from killing us! :scared1: We were hip deep in the situation and we still missed it.

I say, if the man can restart his life with a new wife and make new babies, more power to him.
 
Sylvester McBean said:
so I guess he should have quit his job and sat home with her on a 24 hour vigilant suicide/triple homocide watch...

Maybe. From the show I watched, they knew she was so bad off that his mother came over every morning to help Andrea watch the children (or keep an eye on Andrea). He left her alone that morning for one hour with the children and as we all know that's all the time she needed.
ITA with momofKatie. He knew of her mental state and yet he got her pregnant again and again after that. He should be behind bars as well IMO...
 
Sylvester McBean said:
so I guess he should have quit his job and sat home with her on a 24 hour vigilant suicide/triple homocide watch...
Maybe he should have listened to the doctors and not gotten her pregnant two more times- it was a quintuple homicide. Maybe he should have sent the kids to daycare and school, instead of expecting Andrea to homeschool them just home from the mental institution.

I don't know exactly what he could have done differently. All I know is, if I had a spouse who was that ill, I would not have left them alone with the kids. I'm not saying he should be in jail, just that he wasn't the innocent victim of a dastardly wife who did something evil with no warning or foreshadowing.
 












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