An Echo in Bone-new Outlander book-SPOILERS

[momtomatthew]

Regarding the relative coming forward- Wasn't the guy Frank saw in the first novel actually Jaime as a ghost.? I didn't think it was actually someone that had come forward in the stones... And Bree, Roger, the kids, and Claire have all come forward in time, so it makes sense that others could too.

 

[Christine]

That happened in the very first book, very early on when Frank saw a guy looking in the window at Claire....

Oh, I've been waiting to ask someone about this. What *was* that all about? Who was it. It is so far back, I can hardly grasp the thought anymore much less tie it together with something in this book.

Can you recap that for me and how it fits with Echo?

 

[Christine]

Regarding the relative coming forward- Wasn't the guy Frank saw in the first novel actually Jaime as a ghost.? I didn't think it was actually someone that had come forward in the stones... And Bree, Roger, the kids, and Claire have all come forward in time, so it makes sense that others could too.

I never thought it was a ghost and, at the time the man in the kilt was spotted outside the window, Claire had not yet gone back and met Jamie, correct? Geez, I'm confused.

 

[golfgal]

I never thought it was a ghost and, at the time the man in the kilt was spotted outside the window, Claire had not yet gone back and met Jamie, correct? Geez, I'm confused.

I think Claire is going to go back for some reason and Jamie is going to try to follow her and misses the right time.

 

[momtomatthew]

I never thought it was a ghost and, at the time the man in the kilt was spotted outside the window, Claire had not yet gone back and met Jamie, correct? Geez, I'm confused.

Ok- now I'm confused too. I thought it was a ghost cause Frank talks about how he brushes by the guy and there's no wind. And just cause Claire hadn't gone back yet, it's 1940 something, and she goes back and the past has happened, so she has met Jaime, right? Clear as mud, huh?

 

[WL Fan]

Well Claire, Roger and Bree coming back to where they came from made sense. They had a point of reference, and all. But the relative (of Roger's, right?) what was he coming to the future for?

I could still smack Claire. Lord John? What was she thinking?

 

[kristilew]

The ghost was Jamie's "shade." Remember he tells Claire that he dreamed of standing outside a house with electric lights and seeing her brush her hair? He is sure that means Claire will go back again, but she asks him how old she was in his dream, to point out it could have already happened. This is when Frank saw him. It's been well-established that Jamie's dreams sometimes connect to the future.

I have listened to DG's podcasts and she indicated in one that the last page of the very last book will deal the "ghost" in more detail.

As for the graphic novel, that will be basically a comic book of the first part of Outlander.

 

[kristilew]

Well Claire, Roger and Bree coming back to where they came from made sense. They had a point of reference, and all. But the relative (of Roger's, right?) what was he coming to the future for?

He accidentally got sucked forward just like Claire originally accidentally got sucked back in time, through the stones.

 

[cruisnfamily]

2 things that bugged me:

1. a big part of the story line with Lord John involved characters from the 'side novels' about him. I had thought they were stand alone stories to fill out his character. He's not my favorite character and I resent having to read those other books to figure out what's going on in Echo.

OK, so I'm still working on my re~reading. I'm just about done with Outlander. Should I start Dragonfly next? Or should I read one of the side novels? What's the optimal reading order for this series?

 

[MrsPete]

Oh, I've been waiting to ask someone about this. What *was* that all about? Who was it. It is so far back, I can hardly grasp the thought anymore much less tie it together with something in this book.

Can you recap that for me and how it fits with Echo?

The man was definitely a ghost because his clothes didn't move in the wind.
The man was definately Jamie because he was wearing Jamie's running stag broach.

I don't see how it ties into Echo at all. It just emphasizes that Jamie loves her across all time and circumstance. At that point -- very early in the novel -- he is already dead, and he's watching her in her pre-time-travel life. He's unhappy because he's watching Claire still happy with Frank, whom he once said he hated to his guts because he would get to keep Claire, while he (Jamie) had to give her up.

 

[MrsPete]

OK, so I'm still working on my re~reading. I'm just about done with Outlander. Should I start Dragonfly next? Or should I read one of the side novels? What's the optimal reading order for this series?

You should definitely read the Outlander series in order; I think Dragonfly is the next book in the series, but I"m not 100% certain that's true.

I personally don't care for the side novels.

 

[golfgal]

Bumping for poster that was looking for this

 

[cruisnfamily]

You should definitely read the Outlander series in order; I think Dragonfly is the next book in the series, but I"m not 100% certain that's true.

I personally don't care for the side novels.

I know Dragonfly is the next one in order but somebody back in this thread said that in order to understand the newest book, you had to have read all the side novels and I wondered where I should work them in. AFter I finish the whole series in order? Or in between them? Any recommendations? I've never read any of the side novels

 

[golfgal]

I know Dragonfly is the next one in order but somebody back in this thread said that in order to understand the newest book, you had to have read all the side novels and I wondered where I should work them in. AFter I finish the whole series in order? Or in between them? Any recommendations? I've never read any of the side novels

I don't think that you need to read the side novels at all. I have never read them and I followed every storyline in Echo just fine.

 

[MrsPete]

I know Dragonfly is the next one in order but somebody back in this thread said that in order to understand the newest book, you had to have read all the side novels and I wondered where I should work them in. AFter I finish the whole series in order? Or in between them? Any recommendations? I've never read any of the side novels

Read the "Outlander" novels in order -- do not read them out of order, or you'll be lost!

THEN, if you want, move on to the side novels. I've only read one of the Lord John novels, and I didn't care for it. The side novels do not contain any plotline pertinant to the main novels.

 

[cruisnfamily]

Read the "Outlander" novels in order -- do not read them out of order, or you'll be lost!

THEN, if you want, move on to the side novels. I've only read one of the Lord John novels, and I didn't care for it. The side novels do not contain any plotline pertinant to the main novels.

OK, so I've got dragonfly on hold at the library but it hasn't come in yet so I got 3 lord john novels that were sitting on the shelf calling to me. I got Lord John and the Private Matter and 2 others, can't remember the names. I'm pretty sure the private matter one comes first but I'll have to google to see what order to read these in. Hope I'm not missing any of these. They'll be good to keep me busy until Dragonfly comes in.