am I the only one who appreciates the new party dress code?

[karasmom]

**fair warning - this is not a joyous subject**

I am seeing a lot of "annoyance" about the new Halloween party dress up guidelines for adults...

While I am in no way certain that this is the case - has anyone thought of the fact that Disney might just be trying to keep us safe from some wacko walking into Magic Kingdom who has a suicide vest strapped around his/her chest?

A lot of these guidelines, to me, seem to prevent someone trying to possibly hide something underneath their costume...

Again - I could be completely wrong here... But instead of being upset... I am choosing to believe that this is just a way to keep us safer...(and trust you me - I am usually a "my cup is half empty" kinda girl - I don't see the positives in negative situations - ever).

I am sorry this seems very dark and morbid - I am always afraid of something weird happening to my girls and maybe it is due to my husband being Active Duty but these "things" are always on my mind (yes, even and especially if at Disney)...

 

[mom2rtk]

If someone wanted to do harm at Disney, what would stop them from doing it just outside the gates where all those people get backed up waiting to go through security?

I'm not advocating no security. I don't have the answers. But this really does not make me feel safer.

 

[ChattaAlley]

I hear your point. There is a lot of crazies out there. Maybe it will deter some of them.

I am ok with the whole adults not dressing up rule. Some of the "costumes" were very risqué and tacky. I do not want to be behind some trashy girl in line with half her butt showing at Disney. If I was at Walmart I would be understanding . LOL.

 

[Angel Ariel]

If someone wanted to do harm at Disney, what would stop them from doing it just outside the gates where all those people get backed up waiting to go through security?

I'm not advocating no security. I don't have the answers. But this really does not make me feel safer.

Exactly.

The people in Brussels weren't wearing costumes..they had on every day clothing. Brussels has security, they just attacked before the security checkpoint. The more actions that wdw takes that make the entrances to the park a backed up bottleneck, the *less* safe I feel...and I felt that way before before Brussels.

Also not advocating for no security at all, but the new costume rules and the metal detectors do nothing to make me feel more safe. I feel the behind the scenes security disney has is doing a pretty awesome job, and the added security theatre wasn't necessary.

 

[Tink415]

**fair warning - this is not a joyous subject**

I am seeing a lot of "annoyance" about the new Halloween party dress up guidelines for adults...

While I am in no way certain that this is the case - has anyone thought of the fact that Disney might just be trying to keep us safe from some wacko walking into Magic Kingdom who has a suicide vest strapped around his/her chest?

A lot of these guidelines, to me, seem to prevent someone trying to possibly hide something underneath their costume...

Again - I could be completely wrong here... But instead of being upset... I am choosing to believe that this is just a way to keep us safer...(and trust you me - I am usually a "my cup is half empty" kinda girl - I don't see the positives in negative situations - ever).

I am sorry this seems very dark and morbid - I am always afraid of something weird happening to my girls and maybe it is due to my husband being Active Duty but these "things" are always on my mind (yes, even and especially if at Disney)...

Have new Halloween party dress up guidelines for adults been published? I must have missed these.

 

[karasmom]

Exactly.

The people in Brussels weren't wearing costumes..they had on every day clothing. Brussels has security, they just attacked before the security checkpoint. The more actions that wdw takes that make the entrances to the park a backed up bottleneck, the *less* safe I feel...and I felt that way before before Brussels.

Also not advocating for no security at all, but the new costume rules and the metal detectors do nothing to make me feel more safe. I feel the behind the scenes security disney has is doing a pretty awesome job, and the added security theatre wasn't necessary.

Everyday cold weather clothing like thick coats - yes... Easily to hide things under... No one will wear anything close to that in September/October at Disney...
And if they do - they will stick out - a lot.

I never said this is going to prevent any and all issues. I just think it might be a deterrent and just a little extra step that could possibly help.

I was very cautious in how I wrote my post. It is only an assumption.

And yes - of course the front of the park is a huge issue - no one would actually have to get inside...
Just like they could walk into any of the resorts or go to Doentown Disney (I don't like to call is Disney springs - sorry)...

However - at least they are trying to be a little proactive (if the costume ruling had anything to do with possible terror threads)...

 

[mom2rtk]

I hear your point. There is a lot of crazies out there. Maybe it will deter some of them.

I am ok with the whole adults not dressing up rule. Some of the "costumes" were very risqué and tacky. I do not want to be behind some trashy girl in line with half her butt showing at Disney. If I was at Walmart I would be understanding . LOL.

There is nothing in the new costume rules preventing the costumes you are talking about.

 

[Magpie]

I hear your point. There is a lot of crazies out there. Maybe it will deter some of them.

I am ok with the whole adults not dressing up rule. Some of the "costumes" were very risqué and tacky. I do not want to be behind some trashy girl in line with half her butt showing at Disney. If I was at Walmart I would be understanding . LOL.

I'm perfectly fine with the current costume rules, especially considering the initial hysteria that surrounded Disney's decision to start enforcing their long-standing "no adult costumes" rule. (ie, it was interpreted to mean, "No more retro styles!" "No more Tardis sundresses!" "No more Minnie ears with polka dot frocks!")

Adults ARE allowed to wear costumes to the Halloween party, they just shouldn't be bulky or drag on the ground, and they can't bring realistic-looking weapons into the park.

And, sadly, I don't see anything in the rules that will protect you from that trashy girl with half her butt hanging out. Fact is, even when she's not in costume, her butt probably still hangs out of her booty shorts.

 

[loves to dive]

I'm perfectly fine with the current costume rules, especially considering the initial hysteria that surrounded Disney's decision to start enforcing their long-standing "no adult costumes" rule. (ie, it was interpreted to mean, "No more retro styles!" "No more Tardis sundresses!" "No more Minnie ears with polka dot frocks!")

Adults ARE allowed to wear costumes to the Halloween party, they just shouldn't be bulky or drag on the ground, and they can't bring realistic-looking weapons into the park.

And, sadly, I don't see anything in the rules that will protect you from that trashy girl with half her butt hanging out. Fact is, even when she's not in costume, her butt probably still hangs out of her booty shorts.

Yep saw a gaggle of three girls a couple of weeks ago when we were there with their booty hanging out. One was so self conscious about it she kept trying to pull her shorts down. My 35 year old son, who likes the female body just as much as the next man, was even complaining about it. He kept asking why she wore that if she knew it was going to bother her.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Everyday cold weather clothing like thick coats - yes... Easily to hide things under... No one will wear anything close to that in September/October at Disney...
And if they do - they will stick out - a lot.

I never said this is going to prevent any and all issues. I just think it might be a deterrent and just a little extra step that could possibly help.

I was very cautious in how I wrote my post. It is only an assumption.

And yes - of course the front of the park is a huge issue - no one would actually have to get inside...
Just like they could walk into any of the resorts or go to Doentown Disney (I don't like to call is Disney springs - sorry)...

However - at least they are trying to be a little proactive (if the costume ruling had anything to do with possible terror threads)...

Imo, it's designed to make people *feel* safer, but doesn't do much to actually make you safer.

If you want to believe it makes you safer, that's your right. You asked if others had considered the possibility. I have, and I think it's nothing more than security theatre.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Adults ARE allowed to wear costumes to the Halloween party, they just shouldn't be bulky or drag on the ground, and they can't bring realistic-looking weapons into the park.

As of the change in December, the Orlando Sentinel reported that no, adults would not be permitted to wear costumes of any kind to the Halloween party.

ETA: disney apprently released costume guidelines yesterday..my apologies!

 

[aaarcher86]

As of the change in December, the Orlando Sentinel reported that no, adults would not be permitted to wear costumes of any kind to the Halloween party.

No, the party guidelines for adult costumes came out yesterday.

 

[mom2rtk]

I'm perfectly fine with the current costume rules, especially considering the initial hysteria that surrounded Disney's decision to start enforcing their long-standing "no adult costumes" rule. (ie, it was interpreted to mean, "No more retro styles!" "No more Tardis sundresses!" "No more Minnie ears with polka dot frocks!")

Adults ARE allowed to wear costumes to the Halloween party, they just shouldn't be bulky or drag on the ground, and they can't bring realistic-looking weapons into the park.

And, sadly, I don't see anything in the rules that will protect you from that trashy girl with half her butt hanging out. Fact is, even when she's not in costume, her butt probably still hangs out of her booty shorts.

I have seen zero outrage or even mild concern that adults could not wear costumes on a regular park day. (Confusion perhaps, but no outrage.)

It was all about whether they would be allowed to wear costumes to Halloween parties.

 

[Magpie]

As of the change in December, the Orlando Sentinel reported that no, adults would not be permitted to wear costumes of any kind to the Halloween party.

The Sentinel got it wrong. Disney had not made any official statement with regards to the Halloween party, and even last year I remember thinking it was highly unlikely they'd ban adult costumes from the party.

 

[Dis703]

I thought they just "discouraged" layered costumes indicating it may lead to more security measures. The only thing I saw they said no to outright were toy weapons that could be confused for the real thing. Unless I missed something, I have zero issues with these measures.

 

[Angel Ariel]

No, the party guidelines for adult costumes came out yesterday.

Oh! My apologies then..I missed that announcement

 

[MakiraMarlena]

At the time the Sentinel published, there WERE no costume guidelines for adults at the party. Now there are.

 

[mom2rtk]

I thought they just "discouraged" layered costumes indicating it may lead to more security measures. The only thing I saw they said no to outright were toy weapons that could be confused for the real thing. Unless I missed something, I have zero issues with these measures.

I'm a little unclear on their policy on full length princess costumes. It said nothing that goes to the ground or drags the ground.

In the end, I predict that absolutely nobody will be turned away. Some will get extra screening though.

 

[aaarcher86]

Oh! My apologies then..I missed that announcement

It's easy to miss with all the daily price rising threads!

 

[PrincessWithABlaster]

So, my take on it is that I have to believe that Disney has some of the best security folks in the business. They would have to - they are a giant sitting duck (er mouse) target. For their own survival and liability they would have to. If Security made or suggested these changes, I'm not going to second guess. There may be a less obvious secondary type reason (like reduce the numbers of people in clothing their behind the scenes people have to pay attention to, not eliminate them). The measures they put in place are not to make people 'feel' safer. They're to make people safer. Now that's all assuming Security made or suggested any of the changes you see. They may not have. It may have been legal or someone who's concern was to make people 'feel' safer. In that case, yes, possibly silly. Without knowing who drove the changes and why, I think it's hard to say whether they help achieve their real goal or not.

I read a very interesting post on how Disney handled 9/11. From the accounts it was very orderly and well handled. That tells me they have (or at least had) well prepared action and contingency plans for emergencies. On things Security, I'm willing to give them a few free passes and assume I don't necessarily know how changes fit into the behind the scenes operation.