Am I the only one NERVOUS about the vaccine? And I’m very PRO-VAX

[Travel60]

I volunteered for two of the trials, personally felt it was a moral imperative......not much I can do to help the world, but that I could do. Was not selected (I suspect because I live so safe and isolated that I would not likely challenge the vaccine). But got on the phone and got appointment as soon as I was vaccine eligible. I had a moderate reaction to second Moderna (lethargy, killer headache for several hours) but nothing like my Shingrex (sp?) Reaction. That one was had me out for a almost a week.

 

[tcufrog]

I got my second Moderna in February. I won't lie. I felt like crap for 2-3 days with a headache and lethargy. My arm hurt for a week. I'm willing to put up with that though if it protects me from COVID.

My older son is 14 and will be attending high school at 3 different campuses in the fall. I'd love it if he could get his vaccines before then.

 

[TwoMisfits]

We all felt nervous at one point or another about something with the vaccines (how we'd feel, when we'd get eligible, could we get an appointment, should we get an appointment, will I be the one in a million with bad side effects, will these have long term issues, etc, etc)...and you're seeing folks overcome their nerves in droves the last few months...one saying that resonates for me with the vaccines...

"Nelson Mandela: 'Courage is not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear.' Oct 21, 2016"

PS - I'm so pro-vaxx, but I know I'm a touch nervous right now about 2nd appointment side effects, b/c my 2nd Shingrix went very badly (but my 1st Pfizer did not)...but I'm also ready in my gut to do this (and wish I could do it tomorrow, rather than next Tuesday)...

 

[luvsvacation]

I am hoping to avoid the vaccine. I won’t be taking it unless it’s mandatory for my job or eventually travel. The reason I do not want to get it is because we only know what we know right now. We don’t know what we’re going to learn 10 years down the line and it could come to be that the vaccine does cause long term unforeseen medical issues for people. We used to visit a historic village from the 1830s and they had a dr office and they would tell stories of the way diseases and illnesses were treated back then, by college educated doctors. I always think what will future generations think when they look back at us. I don’t want there to be pictures in history books in the 2070s of all the poor people in the 2030s who succumbed to illnesses brought on by their 2021 vaccine. I HOPE that is not the case!! I’m sure the vaccine probably is very safe. I’m just not willing to take that risk given that I have know many many people who have had Covid and not a single one who had a severe case so I’d much rather take my chances with the virus. Just to clarify I am not anti vaccine or a conspiracy theorist in any way. The level of crazy I’ve head some people say about the vaccine is mind boggling that anyone could really believe the govt is trying to kill us or microchip us I’ve been fully vaccinated for everything else as have my children. But a brand new vaccine to prevent an illness that (from what I’ve seen) is mild for the vast vast majority is not something I am eager to jump in line for. And as for getting back to normal life, that’s not an issue here. We’ve been “normal” since last May. Socializing, everything open, travel, hanging out with friends and family.

 

[*DisneyDreamer]

I am hoping to avoid the vaccine. I won’t be taking it unless it’s mandatory for my job or eventually travel. The reason I do not want to get it is because we only know what we know right now. We don’t know what we’re going to learn 10 years down the line and it could come to be that the vaccine does cause long term unforeseen medical issues for people. We used to visit a historic village from the 1830s and they had a dr office and they would tell stories of the way diseases and illnesses were treated back then, by college educated doctors. I always think what will future generations think when they look back at us. I don’t want there to be pictures in history books in the 2070s of all the poor people in the 2030s who succumbed to illnesses brought on by their 2021 vaccine. I HOPE that is not the case!! I’m sure the vaccine probably is very safe. I’m just not willing to take that risk given that I have know many many people who have had Covid and not a single one who had a severe case so I’d much rather take my chances with the virus. Just to clarify I am not anti vaccine or a conspiracy theorist in any way. The level of crazy I’ve head some people say about the vaccine is mind boggling that anyone could really believe the govt is trying to kill us or microchip us I’ve been fully vaccinated for everything else as have my children. But a brand new vaccine to prevent an illness that (from what I’ve seen) is mild for the vast vast majority is not something I am eager to jump in line for. And as for getting back to normal life, that’s not an issue here. We’ve been “normal” since last May. Socializing, everything open, travel, hanging out with friends and family.

Well, aren’t you lucky that nobody you know who has had Covid has had a serious case. More than half a million other families can’t say the same thing.

 

[SandyinMonterey]

I'm more afraid of getting Covid 19 virus than the vaccine.

 

[hereyago]

I received my first Moderna shot today.

Yes I am still nervous about it. I am more afraid of getting COVID.

 

[neverlandsky]

Not alone. Breakthrough cases (although not unexpected) are now being reported along with deaths after being fully vaccinated for 2+ weeks with Oregon @ 168 cases and 3 deaths and Nevada @ 58 cases. Both came out with those stats today. This was a huge concern of mine before the vaccines even rolled out along with virus mutations. We're hanging back. We'll gladly volunteer to be in the group that doesn't get the vaccine for science. Always good to have an experimental group and a control group. Especially since Covid is uncharted territory with research and treatment.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

Not alone. Breakthrough cases (although not unexpected) are now being reported along with deaths after being fully vaccinated for 2+ weeks with Oregon @ 168 cases and 3 deaths and Nevada @ 58 cases. Both came out with those stats today. This was a huge concern of mine before the vaccines even rolled out along with virus mutations. We're hanging back. We'll gladly volunteer to be in the group that doesn't get the vaccine for science. Always good to have an experimental group and a control group. Especially since Covid is uncharted territory with research and treatment.

That’s really a catch 22 though. We’re having breakout cases because we don’t have herd immunity. We won’t reach herd immunity if not enough people get vaccinated.

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

That’s really a catch 22 though. We’re having breakout cases because we don’t have herd immunity. We won’t reach herd immunity if not enough people get vaccinated.

Very simple concept that people are failing to grasp. The virus mutates because it's replicating through so many people. You can't fix one without the other.

 

[Verity_]

I received my first Moderna shot today.

Yes I am still nervous about it. I am more afraid of getting COVID.

I am 1 week post 2nd shot of Moderna. One more week I'll be fully vaccinated. You've started on the path to your countdown, too. Bit by bit we are all getting there.

 

[TwoMisfits]

And to add (on top of the mutation stuff) - no one asks the question of "who" are the breakthrough cases...I mean, leukemia patients have been informed that we are most likely to fit that bill b/c on all the studies so far, we have the crappiest response to the vaccines (thus, why we're getting extra studies done now on "how crappy", "why", and "can an extra booster help")...probably very, very old people and people with very compromised immune systems also fit that bill.

But, none of those groups being in the "breakthrough" would mean vaccination isn't helping...it would just show that folks who normally need to rely on others to develop herd immunity still are gonna need to rely on others for that herd immunity b/c they won't internally get it from a vaccine...

 

[neverlandsky]

That’s really a catch 22 though. We’re having breakout cases because we don’t have herd immunity. We won’t reach herd immunity if not enough people get vaccinated.

How did the Spanish Flu reach herd immunity again? There was no vaccine back then. Yet the global population was at barely 2 billion and we're at almost 8 billion today so hence the creation of the vaccine to decrease hospitalizations overall. Not opposed to the creation of the vaccine or even those who decide to get the vaccine. You can't deny that herd immunity is also being hindered by trying to suppress the virus with a vaccine. We are in extreme deep need of more studies and testing of those who have Covid antibodies. Instead we took the shotgun approach and we're hoping it works itself out.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

I have a family history of thrombophilia and I had the Oxford-AZ without any side effects. Even though Wales is only slowly and cautiously coming out of lockdown and we still wear masks and socially distance etc., I do feel that a weight has been lifted from my shoulders and I feel safer knowing that I am vaccinated. I need to live again and not be in lockdown for another year.

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

How did the Spanish Flu reach herd immunity again? There was no vaccine back then.

It reached herd immunity because it passed around the world for almost 2 years, infecting a third of the entire world's population. Antigenic drift is the reason it's still around.

You can't deny that herd immunity is also being hindered by trying to suppress the virus with a vaccine.

that's not a thing

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The have you gotten a covid vaccine thread has been amazing to share all sorts of experiences and ones that are real life not trying to sugar coat which I appreciate. It's a both realistic and reassuring thread loaded with people helping others out.

While I was not nervous about getting the vaccine as in what you are nervous about I did have slight anxiety towards side effects as in I didn't want them. 1st dose went fine with minor side effects.

Both my husband and I go for our 2nd dose next Friday (16th) of Pfizer and I am slightly anxious about side effects because who wants to feel crummy ya know even though I'm prepared for it.

Anywho I would have gotten the vaccine months ago if we had been eligible at that time but we only just became eligible in late March.

 

[neverlandsky]

It reached herd immunity because it passed around the world for almost 2 years, infecting a third of the entire world's population. Antigenic drift is the reason it's still around.

We're well on our way to 2 years with 8 months to go when Covid19 first started. There are some that are saying Covid19 is going to be with us forever. Vaccine or not.

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

We're well on our way to 2 years with 8 months to go when Covid19 first started. There are some that are saying Covid19 is going to be with us forever. Vaccine or not.

I don't understand the point that you are trying to make? It sounds like you are saying that we should forego the medical advances that have been made over the last 100 years because ultimately the virus will burn out regardless? I could not disagree with you more. The vaccine should help us reach herd immunity faster since it would be rash and frankly stupid to undo all protective measures and allow the virus to burn through the population unmitigated. And due to the variants, could possibly take much longer.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

How did the Spanish Flu reach herd immunity again? There was no vaccine back then. Yet the global population was at barely 2 billion and we're at almost 8 billion today so hence the creation of the vaccine to decrease hospitalizations overall. Not opposed to the creation of the vaccine or even those who decide to get the vaccine. You can't deny that herd immunity is also being hindered by trying to suppress the virus with a vaccine. We are in extreme deep need of more studies and testing of those who have Covid antibodies. Instead we took the shotgun approach and we're hoping it works itself out.

I don’t think you quite understand the facts here. We could wait for natural herd immunity like with the Spanish flu, but I for one am not willing to lose the number of lives it would take to get there when we have the science now to avoid that.

I have no idea what you mean about herd immunity being hindered by the vaccine. That’s not a thing. The vaccine is helping us get to herd immunity with less loss of life. So yes, I will wholeheartedly deny what you say because it isn’t true.

Every person has the right to make the decision for themself even if others, like me, disagree with it. But I really wish that decision was based in actual facts and not fear & made up conspiracy theories/“facts”.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Not alone. Breakthrough cases (although not unexpected) are now being reported along with deaths after being fully vaccinated for 2+ weeks with Oregon @ 168 cases and 3 deaths and Nevada @ 58 cases. Both came out with those stats today. This was a huge concern of mine before the vaccines even rolled out along with virus mutations. We're hanging back. We'll gladly volunteer to be in the group that doesn't get the vaccine for science. Always good to have an experimental group and a control group. Especially since Covid is uncharted territory with research and treatment.

168 out of 700,000 fully vaccinated in Oregon. That's 0.024%. That's actually less than the 0.073% of Moderna's clinical trial. The more people that don't get the vaccine the less effective vaccines will be and the more likely a mutation occurs. Simply not getting the vaccine is not doing anything for science. You have to sign up for a trial to do that. And you don't get to choose what group you're in because knowing what group you're in will affect your behavior and thus the outcome.

How did the Spanish Flu reach herd immunity again? There was no vaccine back then. Yet the global population was at barely 2 billion and we're at almost 8 billion today so hence the creation of the vaccine to decrease hospitalizations overall. Not opposed to the creation of the vaccine or even those who decide to get the vaccine. You can't deny that herd immunity is also being hindered by trying to suppress the virus with a vaccine. We are in extreme deep need of more studies and testing of those who have Covid antibodies. Instead we took the shotgun approach and we're hoping it works itself out.

How did Spanish Flu reach herd immunity? By cutting through entire populations unchecked and killing somewhere between 20 million and 60 million in the process, 700,000 of them in the U.S.
Is that what you're suggesting? Millions upon millions dead? That simply isn't an option.
No. Vaccines don't hinder herd immunity. Those refusing to get them hinder herd immunity.