Am I right or wrong to be annoyed long post

I find that older people (like myself) that are not even a little tech savvy, are afraid of leaving a message either because they don't know if they are doing it right or just have this thing about leaving a message. Couple that with people that grew up and many years into adulthood used regular phones that involved your phone to ring until it was answered. If someone didn't answer and you felt that they should be home, then there is the worry that something is wrong. Not that one would answer if there was a problem. Back then there was no caller ID and answering machines were few and far between. Old habits are hard to break.
Then there's millennials like me, who will 100% not call you back if you don't leave a message or send a follow up text. Also, if I don't recognize the number I'm not answering unless I'm expecting a call back about something.
 
Then there's millennials like me, who will 100% not call you back if you don't leave a message or send a follow up text. Also, if I don't recognize the number I'm not answering unless I'm expecting a call back about something.
1000% this
 
I find that older people (like myself) that are not even a little tech savvy, are afraid of leaving a message either because they don't know if they are doing it right or just have this thing about leaving a message. Couple that with people that grew up and many years into adulthood used regular phones that involved your phone to ring until it was answered. If someone didn't answer and you felt that they should be home, then there is the worry that something is wrong. Not that one would answer if there was a problem. Back then there was no caller ID and answering machines were few and far between. Old habits are hard to break.
That is the exact opposite of my experience. One of my Doctor's hired a new College aged girl in her office. I was in there when the other office staffer had her calling people to change appointments. She questioned why the girl wasn't leaving messages and the response was "they will see they had a missed call and call back". The entire concept of leaving a voice message was something she had no experience with. As the other office staffer told her most of our patients as elderly, they have landlines, they don't have caller ID, they have answering machines and expect a detailed message. All she got was a "deer in the headlights" look from this young lady.
At 65 I'm not young, but I spend a career at work having to leave voice mails and I always leave a message, I always repeat my phone number and say why I called (contrary to those Progressive Insurance commercials that make fun of that).
And I used to HATE it when I would get a call at work and someone would say "I just got a call from this number". For security reasons our main number was what was displayed but there are 120 people in the building, so I have no idea who called. And then I ask "did they leave a voice mail" and I get the response "I never listen to voice mails". Really? You'd know who called you if you did.
 
Then there's millennials like me, who will 100% not call you back if you don't leave a message or send a follow up text. Also, if I don't recognize the number I'm not answering unless I'm expecting a call back about something.
I know you want to think that is the hallmark of millennials but I'm afraid that I am a very old boomer that does exactly the same thing.
 

That is the exact opposite of my experience. One of my Doctor's hired a new College aged girl in her office. I was in there when the other office staffer had her calling people to change appointments. She questioned why the girl wasn't leaving messages and the response was "they will see they had a missed call and call back". The entire concept of leaving a voice message was something she had no experience with. As the other office staffer told her most of our patients as elderly, they have landlines, they don't have caller ID, they have answering machines and expect a detailed message. All she got was a "deer in the headlights" look from this young lady.
At 65 I'm not young, but I spend a career at work having to leave voice mails and I always leave a message, I always repeat my phone number and say why I called (contrary to those Progressive Insurance commercials that make fun of that).
And I used to HATE it when I would get a call at work and someone would say "I just got a call from this number". For security reasons our main number was what was displayed but there are 120 people in the building, so I have no idea who called. And then I ask "did they leave a voice mail" and I get the response "I never listen to voice mails". Really? You'd know who called you if you did.
That was more just dumb than a way of life. With the way we get robo calls, especially with Medicare, political and car warrantee calls we would spend all day on the phone. I don't answer unless I know who is calling and will never call back if they don't leave a message. But to think that people will automatically call back if they don't know who is calling is not playing with a full deck.
 
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That was more just dumb than a way of life. With he way we get robo calls, especially with Medicare, political and car warrantee calls we would spend all day on the phone. I don't answer unless I know who is calling and will never call back if they don't leave a message. But to think that people will automatically call back if they don't know who is calling is not playing with a full deck.
I personally agree with you. However, the reality is, some otherwise normal people don't.
I don't have caller ID on my landline so I never know who is calling. Some of my Doctors have my cell number and the caller ID often doesn't show a name, just a number. And those Doctors never seem to call from the same number, so I find I have to answer because it may be an important call.
 
I personally agree with you. However, the reality is, some otherwise normal people don't.
I don't have caller ID on my landline so I never know who is calling. Some of my Doctors have my cell number and the caller ID often doesn't show a name, just a number. And those Doctors never seem to call from the same number, so I find I have to answer because it may be an important call.
This. Call came in on my cell phone. Local number with no ID.
It was call from my parents’ doctor regarding appointment.
Sometimes you just need to answer.
 
This. Call came in on my cell phone. Local number with no ID.
It was call from my parents’ doctor regarding appointment.
Sometimes you just need to answer.
I just screen calls and if it's about appointments they will always leave a message. So you really don't have to answer.
 
I don't have a cell phone (except a flip phone that stays in the car for emergencies, so it's usually turned off), we have a land line and answering machine. I screen calls if I am home, and no, I don't answer calls if they aren't "real." (SpamRisk, I'm looking at you when you call me 3 or 4 times a day- DEFINITELY sounds like a spam risk to me!). Most people who need to contact me leave a message, although the message that said, "Hi, this is your doctor's office, please return our call" was a little mystifying as there are 5 people in this household!

(I have my laptop open all day at work, so folks who need/want to contact me either email or use messenger; I always see it within the hour.)
 
I just screen calls and if it's about appointments they will always leave a message. So you really don't have to answer.
Then you play phone tag. Rather just answer. And clear it up in 30 seconds myself.
 
All my doctors text now for that and you just reply yes to confirm.
I wish! Only my eye doctor uses modern technology. 😄
The dentist might get with it soon - my previous dentist retired a little while ago and the new guy who took over has been slowly modernizing the office since then.
 
Then you play phone tag. Rather just answer. And clear it up in 30 seconds myself.
99% of the calls I get are spoofing calls which are spam calls. They are usually automated calls with the expressed purpose of trying to figure out if it's a real phone number they are calling so if you pick it up and answer it you're just giving them what you want. I use Hiya which auto detects most spam calls so it tells me "spam likely" and auto hangs up most of the time. Spoofing tends to work because they use your area code which increases the likelihood of you answering. Now maybe in Canada things are different who knows but spoofing, phone phishing and spams are so prevalent here a lot of cell phone users screen the calls.

I get automated voicemails from these things too like warranty departments and deals. "AT&T" (and I put in quotes because it's not really them) constantly calls from spoofed numbers about my account having a deal. I don't have an account with them. My husband is the one that has the cable and internet under his name but does he get the calls? Nope, just me. All spoofing and spam.

Spoofing is not just altering the phone number (so you're more likely to answer) they also can alter the caller ID. As an example on November 7th I received 4 calls in the span of 3 hours all from spoofed numbers with the caller ID of the state sheriff's association (which is a real thing), that is what showed up on the caller ID, number they are calling from is not actually real and if you google just one of the numbers you get this:
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785 area code is not my area code but it is one near me, clearly the spoofers are guessing on that one.

So yeah sometimes you're playing phone tag...better than the alternative of answering all the illegitimate phone calls I get constantly.
 
I don't answer the phone if I don't recognize the number. Legit business calls (i.e. doctor/dentist/car dealer....etc.) ALWAYS leave a message. Telemarketers/scammers NEVER leave a message since they know you won't call them back. If you are snoozing then just leave your phone somewhere else in the house. I usually leave my phone on the desk in the kitchen. Even if someone I know calls, I might not hear the phone and they leave a message. My life doesn't revolve around using my phone so the next time I look at it a few hours later I will return any missed calls.
 
We must be getting different scammers then because I sure do get messages from them it's all just automated messages never an actual person.
Yeah, the automated ones just start playing when my voicemail picks up, so I get recordings about 20 seconds into their spiel. I just got one that was 6 seconds long and all I heard was "call me".
 
I personally agree with you. However, the reality is, some otherwise normal people don't.
I don't have caller ID on my landline so I never know who is calling. Some of my Doctors have my cell number and the caller ID often doesn't show a name, just a number. And those Doctors never seem to call from the same number, so I find I have to answer because it may be an important call.

This. Call came in on my cell phone. Local number with no ID.
It was call from my parents’ doctor regarding appointment.
Sometimes you just need to answer.
Everyone's situation is different, but as time goes by more and more people will easily be able to screen calls. Those that have opted out of being identified are usually those that have a reason that they don't want you to know and in many instances like with my i-Phone it tells me if it thinks it is a scam call. Anyone that I might expect a call from I put in my contact list and when they call it tells me who is calling. All others I let go to voice mail and they usually don't leave a message anyone that I want to hear from will leave a message. Even though at times it seems like we are backing up to the 1800's, most of us are embracing new technology, some at an insane level, and are staying as current as is reasonable.
 

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