Always Use the Hotel Safe, Not the Room Safe

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Orlando Sentinel, 10/04/2010

Milsa and Juan Palacios had been saving for a trip to Orlando, where they planned to take their 10- and 13-year-old daughters to Islands of Adventure and relax for a couple of days.

The Naples couple's plans were shattered, however, when their motel room was burglarized shortly after they checked in and went to dinner. Everything of value — including electronics, cash, a designer purse and sunglasses, theme-park tickets, a passport, checks and Social Security cards — was gone when they returned.

"We thought it was going to be a vacation," Milsa Palacios, 37, said. "It turned into a nightmare."

The Palacios filed a police report and demanded reimbursement from the motel for the $5,200 loss, but it was denied. A Florida law protects operators of public lodgings from most liability. Even when a hotel is negligent, a guest cannot recover more than $500 in most cases and $1,000 for jewelry or cash left with the hotel for safekeeping.

"It's obviously a statute that is meant to protect the hotel industry," Orlando lawyer Mark NeJame said. "The clear intent was to limit the rights of the guest and protect the owner."

So, what's a tourist to do?

Your simplest line of defense: Leave your valuables at home. Beyond that, don't flash money, electronics or anything else a thief might covet, said Orange County sheriff's Cpl. Marcus Camacho, who combats crime against tourists. Make sure you lock your hotel room and car doors.

"Tourists are more likely to take risks on vacation," Camacho said. "They're a little more relaxed and take fewer safety precautions."

If you must bring jewelry, large sums of cash or a passport, store them in a hotel safe, Camacho advises. Avoid leaving anything in plain view.

In Orlando, where tourism is the engine that drives the economy, hoteliers are well aware of the need to protect their guests as much as possible, said Rich Maladecki, president of the Central Florida Hotel & Lodging Association.

Most hotels have full-time security staff and work with law enforcement to root out problems, he said. Look for hotels with good lighting in hallways, at entrances and in parking lots, experts caution.

"We understand the importance of the repeat visitor," Maladecki said. "We're very conscious of the social-media networking. Who needs [to read online] 'Don't come to Orlando?'"

Visitors can further help keep themselves safe by avoiding excessive drinking, staying away from isolated areas, particularly at night, and generally avoiding looking like a stereotypical tourist: backpack or fanny pack, sunscreen across the nose, camera, map. They also should leave anything they don't need immediately and don't want to lose — or have stolen — at their hotel or lock it in the trunk when nobody is looking.

"You have to be aware of your surroundings," Camacho said.

If the worst does happen, notify the hotel, law enforcement and your insurance company. Many homeowners' and renters' policies cover the theft of possessions away from home, said Gary Landry, vice president of the Florida Insurance Council, an industry group.

Check your coverage before you go, and buy a rider to protect jewelry and other expensive items, Landry counsels.

"Everything, of course, is subject to questions of fraud because fraud is a big issue in Florida," he said.

Palacios said she has submitted her claim to her insurance company, but she has a $1,000 deductible. She is enraged and saddened that her family ended up driving home the day after the theft instead of going to the theme park. Now they are out a lot of money, too.

"I've learned not to stay at hotels with exterior access," Palacios said. "To never leave my stuff — anything — in the room. Don't carry personal information with me.

"It was a really costly lesson."
 
Please tell me they were staying offsite. Please!

It doesn't matter. Rooms have been broken into at Disney resorts, safes have been broken into at Disney resorts.

The safety precautions in that article are good suggestions no matter where you stay.
 
OMG what a horrible story.

Was their money stolen out of the room safe? :scared1:


I have often wonder how easy it would be for the staff (ie. cleaning staff) to run out and get an extra safe key made while a room is vacant. They could easily return the original key before the room is rented out again. It would be easy to stage a break in when you have access to everything........

It's amazing what goes through your mind when you're putting valuables and cash into your room safe. :rotfl:
 

Do interior corridors really cut down on theft/burglary? I'd think it really wouldn't matter, the locks on the room doors should be the same either way?
 
Do interior corridors really cut down on theft/burglary? I'd think it really wouldn't matter, the locks on the room doors should be the same either way?

In order to enter an inside corrider at most hotels, you must first enter through a lobby or other acces point. A lot have locks on the other doors that you must scan a room key to enter.

Rooms with outside doors, you can just drive up, jump out, break the lock and you are in. There is very little risk of be seen carrying tools to carry out your crime.

Dan
 
I may be missing something, but I don't understand the title. How is leaving items in the hotel safe any better? Are they required to reimburse you the full amount? Are they statistically less likely to be stolen? The article didn't say anything at all about the hotel safe.
 
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The hotel safe they mean is one at the front desk. Since that area alays has people around it would be less likely to have problems.
 
I only read the OP but I spent a lot of time reading the reviews on TripAdvisor for the resorts associated with Universal. There were MANY reports of theft and speculations as to why it was so easy to prey on guests at those resorts. One reviewer witnessed a housekeeper prop a few doors open and move between rooms cleaning, in an attempt to streamline her work :confused3. He indicated there was enough time for someone to wander in the resort and enter a room she had propped open and steal something. Then, there were all sorts of tracing of key cards showing that other members of housekeeping entered rooms they were not supposed to be in, etc. It wasn't one or two disgruntled people, there were many. I would never stay at any Universal resort, based on what I read.
 
One reviewer witnessed a housekeeper prop a few doors open and move between rooms cleaning, in an attempt to streamline her work :confused3.

I've seen the same thing at many hotels, including Disney resorts. It's certainly not unique to Universal resorts.
 
I only read the OP but I spent a lot of time reading the reviews on TripAdvisor for the resorts associated with Universal. There were MANY reports of theft and speculations as to why it was so easy to prey on guests at those resorts. One reviewer witnessed a housekeeper prop a few doors open and move between rooms cleaning, in an attempt to streamline her work :confused3. He indicated there was enough time for someone to wander in the resort and enter a room she had propped open and steal something. Then, there were all sorts of tracing of key cards showing that other members of housekeeping entered rooms they were not supposed to be in, etc. It wasn't one or two disgruntled people, there were many. I would never stay at any Universal resort, based on what I read.

WDW Mousekeepers leave the rooms propped open as well, including those at the moderate resorts that have outside corridors. Disney hotels have their share of robberies as well.

Trip Advisor is not a site that I trust for reviews. It's too easy for people to write things that aren't true. IMO, it's like the Wikipedia of travel reviews. If I wanted to I could go there right now and post a review saying that I was robbed at the Grand Floridian. It wouldn't make it true. Some information is accurate but a lot of it is misleading or downright untrue. I can say that we've never had a problem at either WDW or Uni resorts with theft. This is not a site that would keep me away from any hotel.
If you want reviews of Universal hotels, scroll down to the Universal board on the DIS. These reviews are from people who have actually stayed there.
 
I only read the OP but I spent a lot of time reading the reviews on TripAdvisor for the resorts associated with Universal. There were MANY reports of theft and speculations as to why it was so easy to prey on guests at those resorts. One reviewer witnessed a housekeeper prop a few doors open and move between rooms cleaning, in an attempt to streamline her work :confused3. He indicated there was enough time for someone to wander in the resort and enter a room she had propped open and steal something.

Happened at the Grand Californian at Disneyland Resort last year, too. We only found out about it b/c I had forgotten something in the room, and since it was my birthday that day, hubby offered to get it. As he approached the room he realized he'd left his keycard with me, but hey, our room was open. He went in the room, and was getting whatever I had left (which was, unfortunately, buried in my suitcase) when the housekeeper came back. Since neither of us changed our names and I'd made the reservations, his ID couldn't immediately prove that he was OK to be in the room. They had to get security to call down to the front desk to verify that someone with his name was also on the room reservation before he was allowed to continue getting whatever I'd forgotten and come join us.

Glad that they were so thorough (and impressed that a housekeeper had the guts to stand up to a guy that looks like a sumo wrestler!), but they really shouldn't be working on multiple rooms at once, and should NOT have propped the door open while gone... We actually haven't stayed at a hotel since (all trip money is going towards our December WDW trip) but we're definitely taking that experience into consideration when leaving our room in the future!


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Why on earth were they carrying their SS cards with them??????
 
Is it usual for Americans to travel with the SSN cards? I would never travel with my SIN card (the Canadian equivalent). In fact, it says filed away at home unless I need to bring it somewhere. I rarely need it (the most I might need is the number, and I know it) and it just seems to risky a thing to be carrying around.

Not the point of the article, I know, it just struck me as weird.
 
WDW Mousekeepers leave the rooms propped open as well, including those at the moderate resorts that have outside corridors. Disney hotels have their share of robberies as well.

Trip Advisor is not a site that I trust for reviews. It's too easy for people to write things that aren't true. IMO, it's like the Wikipedia of travel reviews. If I wanted to I could go there right now and post a review saying that I was robbed at the Grand Floridian. It wouldn't make it true. Some information is accurate but a lot of it is misleading or downright untrue. I can say that we've never had a problem at either WDW or Uni resorts with theft. This is not a site that would keep me away from any hotel.
If you want reviews of Universal hotels, scroll down to the Universal board on the DIS. These reviews are from people who have actually stayed there.

Just as easy for someone to register here and post something that isn't true :confused3
 
Unless I want housekeeping services, I typically leave the TV on and the Do Not Disturb sign hanging on the door.
 
Is it usual for Americans to travel with the SSN cards? I would never travel with my SIN card (the Canadian equivalent). In fact, it says filed away at home unless I need to bring it somewhere. I rarely need it (the most I might need is the number, and I know it) and it just seems to risky a thing to be carrying around.

Not the point of the article, I know, it just struck me as weird.

Older people seem to do it a lot. I know my parents and my husband's parents always carried theirs in their wallets for years (maybe still do - even though I suggested that they shouldn't). I think a lot of people consider it like an ID that you carry with you.

Although, honestly, mine are so hidden away right now that I'm not sure what the heck we did with them. :lmao: I'm just hoping we don't ever need them again...
 
Just as easy for someone to register here and post something that isn't true :confused3

You're right it could happen. The reviews that I've read here over the years have been accurate. There aren't a lot of posters with agendas and most have more than just a couple of posts.
On Trip Advisor most of the reviewers have very few posts. Some of the reviews are outrageous. Rats in the lobby of the Poly is an example, not 1 rat but a whole bunch and over a couple of days.
 
It doesn't matter where it was, what level of resort ETC..USE COMMON SENSE..I never bring more than I need to, and never expensive things I would be devastated to lose..I have seen people leave their room curtains open with laptops, Iphones, purses and everything else in view..just because it is a vacation doesn't mean leave your brains at home.
 


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