Almost kicked off FLIGHT! Please help

When I read these threads (which seem to pop up monthly) about a poster complaining about how poorly they are being treated by third parties due to some circumstance involving their child whom is allergic to some product (sometimes peanuts, sometimes something else), I often think that we are witnessing a Factitious Disorder by Proxy, sometimes called Munchausen Syndrome by proxy.

It is a class of mental disorder in which a parent reports, exaggerates or simply makes up that their child has an illness or impairment such as an allergy, autism, depression, etc., in order to obtain attention or sympathy to themselves. In the more extreme forms the parent will actually cause injury to their child and then rush them to a hospital.

One constantly reads about how mental illness affects approximately one in four adults in the United States. Usually we think of more common problems such as depression or anxiety.

However, I bet that the number of Factitious Disorder by Proxy disorders is on the rise, in part due to the ‘victim’ mentality that our society has created. It seems to me that more and more people are claiming to be a ‘victim’, and as such demand public sympathy, legal redress, monetary compensation, etc.

The victim mentality takes many forms, of course. Morbidly obese people frequently claim that the obesity is not their fault but is due to some factor beyond their control: thyroid, large bones, genetics, or simply fast-food restaurants for serving food loaded with calories and fat. Many others claim to be a ‘victim’ due to discrimination or prejudice secondary to religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. I have read of people who cover themselves in tattoos and then whine about how they are ‘victimize’ by not being hired for a job, etc.

We Big Brother fans recently enjoyed listening to Laura stating, in all seriousness, that she is hated by others due to her large breasts, saying “It’s not my fault I have large breasts” (for you non-Big Brother fans: she had earlier admitted to having breast implants). She was making herself out as a victim.

Then, we have people whom claim to be a victim because third parties simply do not understand the burden they have to face due to their child having ‘special needs’. Such people will spend an inordinate amount of time complaining about how they have been victimized because other people simply will not recognize how ill their child is, or how their child is literally being exposed to a possibility of death.

I recognize that some children are highly allergic to peanuts. I am not saying that peanut allergies do not exist. I also am not denying that autism exists, or one of the other hundreds, nay, thousands of disorders that afflict this unhappy world.

I am saying that it is my opinion that many of these children do not have the affliction attributed to them by their parent, but that the parent is attempting to gain sympathy, etc. In some cases, of course, the parent is trying to obtain some type of monetary compensation, but mostly, I bet, it is to be portrayed as a ‘victim’ or viewed in a sympathetic light.

Here, reading the original post, I am struck by the hysterical edge to the writing. My advice to the original poster is simple: if your child has a severe peanut allergy, do not take your child on an airline that serves peanuts. The airline was not exposing your child, you were.

After all, you did say that it was for a vacation. Hence you had choices. You already knew that Delta is one of those airlines that continue to serve peanuts on board. Rather than try to get Delta to conform to you, you should have either chosen another airline that is recognized for being peanut-free, or else chosen another form of transportation (such as driving). This was a ‘nightmare’ of your making.
 
But what about the little kid snacking on peanut butter crackers in a seat at the gate? He may have smeared or dropped crumbs on the chair.

If a stray peanut on the floor of a plane is enough to throw someone into a reaction they probably shouldn't be flying on a peanut friendly plane.

What if the peanut was one row back and she didn't see it? Then what?

But again, you are missing the OP's point. Her request was for the airline to activate their protocol for a peanut free buffer zone. One can assume from that request that the OP felt that having the peanut free buffer zone was the "reasonable accomodation" that she needed to protect her child. So someone eating a peanut 1 or 17 rows back wouldn't have been an issue, because, presuambaly, she knows the severity/sensitivity of her child's allergic response to peanuts and was comfortable with the "buffer zone" as being OK.
 
OP, was this a flight originating out of that airport or was it a "leg" segment?
 
But again, you are missing the OP's point. Her request was for the airline to activate their protocol for a peanut free buffer zone. One can assume from that request that the OP felt that having the peanut free buffer zone was the "reasonable accomodation" that she needed to protect her child. So someone eating a peanut 1 or 17 rows back wouldn't have been an issue, because, presuambaly, she knows the severity/sensitivity of her child's allergic response to peanuts and was comfortable with the "buffer zone" as being OK.


Now this I have no problem with. I am willing, as I have stated over and over, to move to a different part of the plane. What I don't like are the suggestions that the whole plane become this buffer zone or a whole school or class go without something because one person is allergic.
 

Respectfully, and please correct me if I am wrong, but how would someone who has taken an antibiotic be able to give your son a reaction? I do not think that is the same as all the bags of peanuts open.


I understand your confusion. All penicillin's and cephlasporins cause my son to have a severe allergic reaction. Swelling of throat, hives, you name it. Since those drugs are in a natural powder form (some add water to it and flavor for kids), the powder is airborne and could cause an allergic reaction. My daughter is not allergic, so when she's sick, as a precaution, after taking the antibiotic, she has to shower and brush her teeth, so that my son doesn't get ill. We also have her take her medicine in our laundry room, where my son doesn't go because it's in the basement.

Penicillin allergies are just as deadly and lethal as a peanut allergy, but just as I don't have a child with a food allergy, I wouldn't expect someone without a drug allergy to fully understand or know what it all entails.

To name a few, nafcillin, ampicillin, penicillin G, amoxicillin, penicillin V, dicloxacillin and so on.

No individual is born inherent with penicillin allergy, but an exposure to the antibiotic can result in the same. An allergic reaction is stimulated on every subsequent exposure to the drug. Immunoglobulin E antibodies are produced by the body to fight off the drug, as it is mistaken for an external invader. Heredity is cited to play a role in the occurrence of this condition, but the presence of this allergic reaction in many, is a state of serious concern.

The most common symptoms of penicillin allergy are hives, itchy eyes, inflammation of the face, lips and tongue and rashes. Alternative medicines are prescribed, in case of an individual experiencing penicillin allergy. Anaphylactic reactions are a lethal offspring of penicillin allergy. People, who are sensitive, experience breathlessness, post exposure to penicillin. Constriction of the bronchi results in breathlessness.

Loss of consciousness occurs, due to hypotension. Various other symptoms are slurred speech, diarrhea, weak or fast pulse, vomiting, wheezing, skin blueness, lightheadedness and nausea. Penicillin allergy calls for immediate care with antihistamines (diphenhydramine) for the rash and itching. Corticosteroids may prove beneficial in severe cases. Epinephrine injection might be essential for critical cases, such as anaphylaxis.

Improper intake of antibiotics has to be curtailed.

Penicillin allergy can be prevented by avoidance of penicillin and related drugs. Allergy to penicillin does not infer an allergic response to all antibiotics. Related drugs, devoid of any allergic reaction can be provided by your physician. Desensitization technique is recommended to individuals, who test positive for penicillin allergy, through patch test.

Someone with a penicillin allergy might suddenly break out in a terrible rash because of the effects of the drug. Other people with a penicillin allergy could experience trouble breathing if they have a penicillin allergy.

This reaction to a penicillin allergy could actually be a lethal reaction to this usually healing drug. A penicillin allergy is the most common drug allergy. The medical experts who study drugs have never found out why this drug could cause a reaction in some people. These experts do know that anyone with a penicillin allergy should never take this drug.

Patients with a Penicillin allergy must use alternative drug therapies

People with an allergy to the medicine would often end up in an emergency room.

So, typically if my son has an ear infection, we fight it with nature, as we don't want the only antibiotic he can take, to grow resitant.
 
I understand your confusion. All penicillin's and cephlasporins cause my son to have a severe allergic reaction. Swelling of throat, hives, you name it. Since those drugs are in a natural powder form (some add water to it and flavor for kids), the powder is airborne and could cause an allergic reaction. My daughter is not allergic, so when she's sick, as a precaution, after taking the antibiotic, she has to shower and brush her teeth, so that my son doesn't get ill. We also have her take her medicine in our laundry room, where my son doesn't go because it's in the basement.

Penicillin allergies are just as deadly and lethal as a peanut allergy, but just as I don't have a child with a food allergy, I wouldn't expect someone without a drug allergy to fully understand or know what it all entails.

To name a few, nafcillin, ampicillin, penicillin G, amoxicillin, penicillin V, dicloxacillin and so on.

No individual is born inherent with penicillin allergy, but an exposure to the antibiotic can result in the same. An allergic reaction is stimulated on every subsequent exposure to the drug. Immunoglobulin E antibodies are produced by the body to fight off the drug, as it is mistaken for an external invader. Heredity is cited to play a role in the occurrence of this condition, but the presence of this allergic reaction in many, is a state of serious concern.

The most common symptoms of penicillin allergy are hives, itchy eyes, inflammation of the face, lips and tongue and rashes. Alternative medicines are prescribed, in case of an individual experiencing penicillin allergy. Anaphylactic reactions are a lethal offspring of penicillin allergy. People, who are sensitive, experience breathlessness, post exposure to penicillin. Constriction of the bronchi results in breathlessness.

Loss of consciousness occurs, due to hypotension. Various other symptoms are slurred speech, diarrhea, weak or fast pulse, vomiting, wheezing, skin blueness, lightheadedness and nausea. Penicillin allergy calls for immediate care with antihistamines (diphenhydramine) for the rash and itching. Corticosteroids may prove beneficial in severe cases. Epinephrine injection might be essential for critical cases, such as anaphylaxis.

Improper intake of antibiotics has to be curtailed.

Penicillin allergy can be prevented by avoidance of penicillin and related drugs. Allergy to penicillin does not infer an allergic response to all antibiotics. Related drugs, devoid of any allergic reaction can be provided by your physician. Desensitization technique is recommended to individuals, who test positive for penicillin allergy, through patch test.

Someone with a penicillin allergy might suddenly break out in a terrible rash because of the effects of the drug. Other people with a penicillin allergy could experience trouble breathing if they have a penicillin allergy.

This reaction to a penicillin allergy could actually be a lethal reaction to this usually healing drug. A penicillin allergy is the most common drug allergy. The medical experts who study drugs have never found out why this drug could cause a reaction in some people. These experts do know that anyone with a penicillin allergy should never take this drug.

Patients with a Penicillin allergy must use alternative drug therapies

People with an allergy to the medicine would often end up in an emergency room.

So, typically if my son has an ear infection, we fight it with nature, as we don't want the only antibiotic he can take, to grow resitant.


I get (sort of) where you are trying to go with this but it is just not logical to me. I am a parent of a son who has a peanut allergy and I also have a daughter that has a penicillan, cephalosporin, and sulpha allergy. I, myself, have a rather signficant allergy to sulpha. With small children, certainly, I would give one child pencillan and make sure he was totally cleaned up prior to go near my daughter. Even contact with penicillan will give her a skin rash.

However, there are no studies to indicate that being in the air with penicillan tablets or reconstituted powder (liquid form) poses any danger for the allergic population. The people who would need to worry are the pharmacists who reconstitute the powder. After the liquid is added, it isn't going airborne.

Even putting that argument aside, if one day, we are all served packets of pencillan powder on the the airplane and all 100 of us open our packets at the same time, I will agree that your child (and mine) will be at risk. I would totally back a reasonable accommodation for your penicillan-allergic child when we get to that point.

Right now the studies back up that peanut dust in enclosed spaces and gathering in airline filtration systems poses a *potential* hazard due to the nature of this particular type of allergy. Like it or not, a nut allergy has some variables with it that other allergens do not have.

FWIW, any allergy can be deadly and I would never assume that my son does NOT have a deadly allergy; however, based on experience I feel safe with how he reacts or doesn't react in different situations and I am happy with the reasonable accomodations that Southwest makes. I don't care for Delta's "buffer" policy, therefore, I would never fly with them.
 
When I read these threads (which seem to pop up monthly) about a poster complaining about how poorly they are being treated by third parties due to some circumstance involving their child whom is allergic to some product (sometimes peanuts, sometimes something else), I often think that we are witnessing a Factitious Disorder by Proxy, sometimes called Munchausen Syndrome by proxy.

It is a class of mental disorder in which a parent reports, exaggerates or simply makes up that their child has an illness or impairment such as an allergy, autism, depression, etc., in order to obtain attention or sympathy to themselves. In the more extreme forms the parent will actually cause injury to their child and then rush them to a hospital.

One constantly reads about how mental illness affects approximately one in four adults in the United States. Usually we think of more common problems such as depression or anxiety.

However, I bet that the number of Factitious Disorder by Proxy disorders is on the rise, in part due to the ‘victim’ mentality that our society has created. It seems to me that more and more people are claiming to be a ‘victim’, and as such demand public sympathy, legal redress, monetary compensation, etc.

The victim mentality takes many forms, of course. Morbidly obese people frequently claim that the obesity is not their fault but is due to some factor beyond their control: thyroid, large bones, genetics, or simply fast-food restaurants for serving food loaded with calories and fat. Many others claim to be a ‘victim’ due to discrimination or prejudice secondary to religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. I have read of people who cover themselves in tattoos and then whine about how they are ‘victimize’ by not being hired for a job, etc.

We Big Brother fans recently enjoyed listening to Laura stating, in all seriousness, that she is hated by others due to her large breasts, saying “It’s not my fault I have large breasts” (for you non-Big Brother fans: she had earlier admitted to having breast implants). She was making herself out as a victim.

Then, we have people whom claim to be a victim because third parties simply do not understand the burden they have to face due to their child having ‘special needs’. Such people will spend an inordinate amount of time complaining about how they have been victimized because other people simply will not recognize how ill their child is, or how their child is literally being exposed to a possibility of death.

I recognize that some children are highly allergic to peanuts. I am not saying that peanut allergies do not exist. I also am not denying that autism exists, or one of the other hundreds, nay, thousands of disorders that afflict this unhappy world.

I am saying that it is my opinion that many of these children do not have the affliction attributed to them by their parent, but that the parent is attempting to gain sympathy, etc. In some cases, of course, the parent is trying to obtain some type of monetary compensation, but mostly, I bet, it is to be portrayed as a ‘victim’ or viewed in a sympathetic light.

Here, reading the original post, I am struck by the hysterical edge to the writing. My advice to the original poster is simple: if your child has a severe peanut allergy, do not take your child on an airline that serves peanuts. The airline was not exposing your child, you were.

After all, you did say that it was for a vacation. Hence you had choices. You already knew that Delta is one of those airlines that continue to serve peanuts on board. Rather than try to get Delta to conform to you, you should have either chosen another airline that is recognized for being peanut-free, or else chosen another form of transportation (such as driving). This was a ‘nightmare’ of your making.

Thanks for saying what many are thinking. I know it won't be a very popular stand but there is definitely that possibility in any of these problems.

I sometimes wonder how come with today's advancements in medicine and the almost militant way that people cling to healthy lifestyles, so many people (kids) are suddenly stricken with so many allergies, autism, asthma and so on. When I was a kid (back in the dark ages) I knew of no one with any allergy any more serious than sneezing a few times with hay fever, some kids a little slower than others and almost no childhood asthma when they were constantly surrounded by cigarette smoke.

Again are we, as a society, unconsciously enabling people to be weaker than necessary for life. Labeling them with long medical terms that justify failure? Forcing them to practically become dependent on outside support to survive instead of teaching them how to deal with problems and overcome them.

I think, and I realize it is just my opinion, that this is happening and the time will come when someone (probably the kids) will pay a high price for not being guided in a way that would make them feel like just a regular person, adjusting and coping with life like we all do. Waiting for the next handout and expecting special consideration in a world that is pretty hard pressed to offer that to anyone over 10 years old. I wonder!
 
Thanks for saying what many are thinking. I know it won't be a very popular stand but there is definitely that possibility in any of these problems.

I sometimes wonder how come with today's advancements in medicine and the almost militant way that people cling to healthy lifestyles, so many people (kids) are suddenly stricken with so many allergies, autism, asthma and so on. When I was a kid (back in the dark ages) I knew of no one with any allergy any more serious than sneezing a few times with hay fever, some kids a little slower than others and almost no childhood asthma when they were constantly surrounded by cigarette smoke.

Again are we, as a society, unconsciously enabling people to be weaker than necessary for life. Labeling them with long medical terms that justify failure? Forcing them to practically become dependent on outside support to survive instead of teaching them how to deal with problems and overcome them.

I think, and I realize it is just my opinion, that this is happening and the time will come when someone (probably the kids) will pay a high price for not being guided in a way that would make them feel like just a regular person, adjusting and coping with life like we all do. Waiting for the next handout and expecting special consideration in a world that is pretty hard pressed to offer that to anyone over 10 years old. I wonder!


Well, I actually have documentation that my son has a peanut, tree nut, and shellfish allergy. He's been tested, it's on paper, and the doctors present a more grim attitude about it than I have. Do you really think I *want* him to be this way. Do you think I don't absolutely cringe everytime I have to alert someone and also feel a tad bit mortified and embarrassed because of some of the holier-than-thou and medical ignorance that exists. Do you think that maybe, evolutionary-wise, something *is* happening to cause this and it has nothing to do with people cleaning habits? I mean, please, my son was born into a home that housed 3 dogs and a bird. I am ashamed to say, even with that, I'm luck if I get the vacuum out once a week. I'm am NOT a clean freak or a germaphobe.

People actually do have these things and it is NOT the family's fault or the child's fault nor are the majority of people making it up. You can't demand anything from a school without test allergy results, and quite honestly, to avoid all these theories, I wish the airlines would require us to submit our proof of allergy so that the "fakers and posers" out there wouldn't give us all a bad rep.
 
Again are we, as a society, unconsciously enabling people to be weaker than necessary for life. Labeling them with long medical terms that justify failure? Forcing them to practically become dependent on outside support to survive instead of teaching them how to deal with problems and overcome them.

I agree with this. I think our over dependence on drugs and vaccines is a logical and dangerous offshoot of this. Are there drugs people have to take, sure. However, how many people are on heart medication for their blood pressure, cholesterol medication for the high cholesterol, and Viagra for well, their wet noodle problem who could adjust their diet and get more exercise and come off of these drugs.

Drugs very rarely address the cause of the problem, they just mask the symptoms. A drug should be the last resort, not the first. Something like MS requires life log drug use, the inability to shed some pounds by putting down the hoho and jumping on a treadmill should not. As a PP has posted, the percentage of people with problems they can't avoid with lifestyle changes is lower then is stated.

Same goes for vaccinations. I don't get a flu shot and wont' get one for the swine flu when it is ready. I have had the flu before and let my natural immune system fight it off. Compared to the majority of people I know I have a superior immune system and I think letting it naturally evolve is part of that. People around me are often sick for weeks and if I do catch what they have 2 days later I am fine.
 
Well, until you live with it you can doubt it. I don't live with it everyday, but my nephew has severe allergies to wheat & eggs. He has been tested every year since he's about 2 or 3--blood tests. Have you ever seen a kid that can't have a piece of birthday cake? or go to McDonald's or any of the fun things that kids his age get to do. Don't you think it makes me sad that I can't take him out to eat the way I can take my other nieces & nephews--we can't do a meal on the spur of the moment because we have to make sure we have food for Jake. Have you ever seen a kid you love have an allergic reaction to something at an amusement park? (he had 1 at Hershey Park a few years ago.) If we could just say, "oh Jake get over yourself. You're really not allergic" or we could say to my sister "oh, stop trying to get attention, he's not allergic"", don't you think we would. No, instead we all make sure we wash our hands after eating wheat. His little sister--who loves eggs--only eats them when we go out to eat so Jake isn't exposed to allergens.

I usually stay out of these types of threads because I can see both sides. I understand you want to be able to eat peanuts on a plane. But when you hear your nephew had to spend a few hours in the ER because of an accidental exposure to eggs, well, that makes you think twice.
 
I read the first page of this thread. I am not going to have time to read the entire thing. However......As a parent with three kids (ages 18,15 and 10) allergic to peanuts and one who is also treenut allegic and has airborne peanut allergy..IT IS SCARY. We fly Airtran now because they don't serve peanuts and our kids seem to do great. We flew SW a handful of times and we noticed that our kids did fine on the earlier morning flights however on the return flights....my one son had a HORRIBLE TIME. I think by then ...the concentration of the dust within the plane was too high. We had to stop flying SW. When we flew SW..... I always noted it on the special notes when booking online. I also called the airline to make sure it was in the notes. I also arrived at the gate and would tell them. They would issue us some special paperwork and we would board early so we could wipe down trays/seats. They never served the peanut on our flights but we would see them on the floor and on the seats. UGH I wish all airlines would discontinue peanuts. Peanut/tree nut allergies are very common. I know that we can't prevent people from bringing snacks on board but if the airline could eliminate peanuts from being served that would be a huge benefit to someone with a nut allergy. We carry epi pens, benadryl and always let the airline know we have nut allergic passengers boarding. That is all we can do.

I am sorry you were so mistreated. That was totally uncalled for.
 
Disney Doll said:
Really, probably the easiest thing for the airlines to do is to make every flight peanut free.This isn't an all or nothing thing. It's about making a life threatening situation easy on everyone.
Of COURSE this "solution" an all-or-nothing thing. Every airline banning peanuts from every flight? How else can you possibly define that?
 
Do you think that maybe, evolutionary-wise, something *is* happening to cause this and it has nothing to do with people cleaning habits?
Frankly, no. There's no reasonable (or unreasonable) support for an evolutionary-related change. Why in the world would humans evolve into peanut-allergic beings? Peanuts are healthy in moderation.
 
Frankly, no. There's no reasonable (or unreasonable) support for an evolutionary-related change. Why in the world would humans evolve into peanut-allergic beings? Peanuts are healthy in moderation.


I don't mean that we are evolving into peanut-allergic human beings, what I mean is that there is evidence to support that allergies/asthma in general are on the rise worldwide, for all populations. There is *something* that is causing this change in the population. "Evolutionary" was most probably the wrong term to use; however, there has been a change in allergies and asthma in general. I don't think it's simply due to the use of, say, hand sanitizer. Some populations are genetically predisposed to allergies and it seems as if that trait is increasing.
 
Some interesting allergy statistics:
WebMD said:
http://www.webmd.com/allergies/living-with-8/allergy-statistics
Percentage of the people in the U.S. who believe they have a food allergy: up to 15%.

Percentage of the people in the U.S. who actually have a food allergy: 3% to 4%
And this list is, I believe, in order of prevalence:
http://www.webmd.com/allergies/living-with-8/food-triggers
Foods That Cause Allergies
Almost any food can trigger an allergy, but these are most common ones:

Milk (mostly in children)
Eggs
Peanuts
Tree nuts (like walnuts and pecans)
Soy
Wheat
Fish (mostly in adults)
Shellfish (mostly in adults)

And the actual occurrence of peanut allergies, courtesy of MedicineNet.com
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=15618
Peanut allergy is the most common cause of deaths from food allergy.

Allergy to peanuts affects 1.3% of the general population. Peanut allergy affects 7 percent of brothers and sisters of persons with the allergy
 
Well, I actually have documentation that my son has a peanut, tree nut, and shellfish allergy. He's been tested, it's on paper, and the doctors present a more grim attitude about it than I have. Do you really think I *want* him to be this way. Do you think I don't absolutely cringe everytime I have to alert someone and also feel a tad bit mortified and embarrassed because of some of the holier-than-thou and medical ignorance that exists. Do you think that maybe, evolutionary-wise, something *is* happening to cause this and it has nothing to do with people cleaning habits? I mean, please, my son was born into a home that housed 3 dogs and a bird. I am ashamed to say, even with that, I'm luck if I get the vacuum out once a week. I'm am NOT a clean freak or a germaphobe.

People actually do have these things and it is NOT the family's fault or the child's fault nor are the majority of people making it up. You can't demand anything from a school without test allergy results, and quite honestly, to avoid all these theories, I wish the airlines would require us to submit our proof of allergy so that the "fakers and posers" out there wouldn't give us all a bad rep.

Where in anything I said did you get that I didn't believe that some of these things are real. I just wonder why, with all our technology is it such a big problem that didn't seem to exist just a mere 30 years ago or less. But by saying that you wish people were required to submit proof to eliminate the "posers" you are admitting that not all of it is real or that it is blown up into a problem bigger than it really is. What I am trying to say is that real or not the solution or the best thing one can do is not always put everyone in a plastic bubble. Behavioral problems brought on by "autism" for example, can be modified by forcing the issue not coddling to it and saying...oh, it's OK they are autistic. How is that preparing them to deal in a world that isn't that forgiving of adults with that sort of problem. Teach...don't enable! That should be the motto of all parents.

That is what I am saying and what the poster that talked about the syndrome, was referring too as well. Many people have a reason to react to protect but many others are merely over reacting and begging for special treatment. I am saying that the special treatment is going to be costly for someone in the future. Parents will not always be around and the children, taught that they are unable to do anything because of brand A, B or C problem will be left to fend for themselves. What happens then?

What happens when parents disinfect everything within a hundred mile radius to the extent that kids grow up with no sufficient immune system and cannot fight off things naturally.

What, in the long run, happens when the mere mention of the word "flu" sends thousands into a panic spiral out of fear of something that the odds are they will never get and if they do could have easily fought off if there immune system hadn't been suppressed by anti-biotics and anti-bacterial chemical products.

I never thought I would think this way when I was younger, but the future scares me. I don't think we are raising very many people that will be independent and proud of what they may have accomplished in spite of road blocks. The strong have always preyed upon the weak. I don't see that changing anytime soon. And I don't hold out much hope for today's generation to be very strong.
 
I don't know if the OP is still keeping up with this thread, but if so - I think your letter needs to be shorter. Just stick to the bare bones of the encounter, give your phone number, and say that you will be happy to provide details if they want to hear them.


People actually do have these things and it is NOT the family's fault or the child's fault nor are the majority of people making it up. You can't demand anything from a school without test allergy results, and quite honestly, to avoid all these theories, I wish the airlines would require us to submit our proof of allergy so that the "fakers and posers" out there wouldn't give us all a bad rep.


Sometimes it isn't the people that are making it up that give others with allergies a bad rap. I have a friend who is allergic to peanuts (as well as carrots and bananas). He is very proactive about avoiding peanuts but he considers it his own responsibility. Most of us who are around him try to avoid bringing peanut products when we are going to see him, and when someone forgets he is very reasonable and calm about avoiding them.

On the other hand, I have a former classmate who has a peanut allergic son. She flies into hysterics any time she thinks there might be peanuts present. She wants his school to be peanut free and she has suggested more than once that anyone with whom they socialize should eliminate peanuts from their diets just in case they want to be around her son at any point.

I could understand it if I thought she really was that afraid of her son having a bad reaction to peanuts. However, I know she isn't really that worried about it. Their home is not peanut free, but she wants everyone else her son might socialize with to be peanut free all the time "just in case". She and her husband occasionally give their son peanut butter "just to see if he has outgrown the allergy yet". :scared1: When my church (not hers, so not everyone there knew her son and his allergies) had a summer camp she sent her son and didn't list his allergy on the form because she "didn't want him to miss out on any activities or be treated differently than the other kids". :confused: (She says it's okay to do that because he knows not to eat any peanuts or peanut butter.) Either he might drop dead because there's a peanut in the room or he can be around peanuts but just not eat them - you can't have it both ways! It's ridiculous - I think she thrives on the drama.
 
Where in anything I said did you get that I didn't believe that some of these things are real. I just wonder why, with all our technology is it such a big problem that didn't seem to exist just a mere 30 years ago or less. But by saying that you wish people were required to submit proof to eliminate the "posers" you are admitting that not all of it is real or that it is blown up into a problem bigger than it really is.

I was mainly responding to the first poster who talked about mental conditions. I piggybacked onto you because you made a further comment. I wasn't even suggesting that *you* didn't think it was real, but the tone of the first post suggested that *many* people have mental illness and a lot of this stuffed is faked by mothers looking for sympathy. I actually do believe that this occurs, more so with behavioral issues for sure, but I don't think it is a common as some people tend to believe. At least the schools have wised up and required proof that, for whatever condition, the child has been tested and the issue is documented. That didn't used to happen and parents would make demands when they didn't have a leg to stand on. I do wish people would be required to submit paperwork (and I believe that paperwork exists) because it appears to me that there are a good number of folks who don't "believe" in allergies. Is that because people have lied to them? I don't know. But I do know that some people just have this sense that people who have a special need are somehow doing it to "get" something out of it. That was the general tone I got from that post. As you will note, I did not disagree with that because I know it to be true. I just argue that it is not the norm. To me, that post sort of sounded like they felt that most people were trying to get over.

What I am trying to say is that real or not the solution or the best thing one can do is not always put everyone in a plastic bubble. Behavioral problems brought on by "autism" for example, can be modified by forcing the issue not coddling to it and saying...oh, it's OK they are autistic. How is that preparing them to deal in a world that isn't that forgiving of adults with that sort of problem. Teach...don't enable! That should be the motto of all parents.

That is what I am saying and what the poster that talked about the syndrome, was referring too as well. Many people have a reason to react to protect but many others are merely over reacting and begging for special treatment. I am saying that the special treatment is going to be costly for someone in the future. Parents will not always be around and the children, taught that they are unable to do anything because of brand A, B or C problem will be left to fend for themselves. What happens then?

I cannot comment on autism because none of my children have it and, believe it or not, I don't even have a friend or acquaintance who has it. Totally out of my area of expertise. But I agree on the allergy issue and the majority of parents I deal with go out of their way to make their kids independent so they can function on their own. My son is 14.5 and has been dealing with allergies all his life. He does TONS of stuff without me. He goes on field trips, he goes on vacations with other family members, he goes to the movies alone. He does a lot of stuff without me and he handles his allergy on his own. Most parents are like this and these kids do well on their own. But, I will agree you will run into that oddball parent who has to control everything and freaks out. Again, the minority. But people seem to want to keep bringing that minority up and pretend like they are the majority. They are not.
 
My post concerned my opinion that a certain type of medically recognized mental syndrome is on the rise. Again, people so afflicted are seeking attention from others by claiming their child is ill, has allergies, etc. In some cases, no doubt, the child does have an allergy, but the parent then exaggerates it.

There is another type of person that I do deal with quite a bit: the malingerer. This parent files for supplemental security income benefits claiming that their child has all sorts of problems. However, these parents are doing it for the money, not out of some desire for attention.

We recently had a case where the mother claimed that her young daughter (age 10) was failing school due to her mental impairments, including ADHD.

WELL! When we contacted the teachers they were appalled at the parent's allegation. The little girl was an 'A' student and conducted herself very well at school, had lots of friends, etc. The parent simply made it up wholesale in order to obtain SSI benefits.
 
I feel bad for the OP BUT......

I would suggest you fly airlines that no longer serve peanut products.

We have severe allergies (peanuts as well) & you have to realize that many people bring nuts onboard as a snack so you can never control the situation.

If your child has a contact allergy you need to be proactive & wipe down the arm rests & ray table. If it is an allergy only when ingested fly with Benydryl & an Epi-pen.

The letter is a good idea but it needs to stick to the facts. What solution are you seeking?
 












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