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Danaans said:
Peter, In this instance, it was directly related to staying at the ASMo. The bus service on 12/20 was sub-standard. There was not enough busses running to the ASMo, but I counted three, (in the time it took to finally get a bus.....going to the same Deluxe resort)
I see your point. And to be honest have seen he same thing myself. However I have also seen the same thing the other way around. I have had poor bus services and great bus service as all levels of Disney resorts.
 
I was there doing the christmass rush and I did notice in some areas that you would see 3 buses from 1 resort before you would see one from your resort.
I do know they will route a bus from one resort to another after they drop off at the theme parks. ALso I have seen a bus driver call in for another bus when he sees a large crowd
 
Yeah, Tag I know I called our resort and requested a bus be sent to us...

but before it arrived we ended up getting on another. We were also there at Christmastime.
 
;)

Everyone's IDEA of a Disney Vacation "is to each their own" :cool1:
If you don't want to stay at a budget locale, don't.

We have been going for years, 23rd trip coming up shortly.
We've stayed from All Stars-The Grand Floridian.
I like them all for different reasons, if one goes to WDW with their family
they are lucky to afford it!

I also like to use my mugs and interchange them at all the different hotels-
:cheer2:

YEA, now that's an idea!!! :rolleyes1


Off to see the MICk in 8 days!!! :moped:
 

peter11435 said:
I have always been treated the same at any WDW resort I have stayed at. As for bus service, that is not unique to the values. The moderates and all of the deluxe resorts also have the same bus service.

I'm sorry, but your math and/or your ability in understanding time must be abysmal. It's always 3:1 ratio for bus frequency between deluxe vs value. Considering the occupancy on the value is at least double the deluxe, that makes the relative ratio 6:1.
 
Having gone to the value resors each of the past 4 years, I have to agree that the bus service is abysmal. We will be renting a car for the next trip and driving ourselves to the parks, just so I can lower my stress level :scared:

However, I think what many people are saying here, and again, I agree, is that Disney has lost the feeling Walt intended for it and has begun to resemble the corporate ruled world we live in. The prices have steadily crept up, as has their profit margins. In an effort to make halfway decent movies again, they bought Pixar. The creativity seems to be decreasing as the ideas for how to make more $$ is increasing. It's a shame, I think we all loved the Disney ideals we had as children, and I'm not sure what it will look like in 20+ years. Again, these are my opinions, not trying to rub them on anyone, but I do enjoy reading these posts. It truly opens my eyes to other opinions and ideas.
 
Kelly Grannell said:
I'm sorry, but your math and/or your ability in understanding time must be abysmal. It's always 3:1 ratio for bus frequency between deluxe vs value. Considering the occupancy on the value is at least double the deluxe, that makes the relative ratio 6:1.
Im sorry but that is wrong. My math and my understanding of time is fine. Maybe in your limited experience that is what you have observed. I am on property nearly everyday and know perfectly what I am talking about. Most of the time the buses are far more frequent at the values than at the deluxes. To say otherwise is not only absurd but it is just plain wrong.
 
I guess it's just my luck (and a few countless thousands of people who stays at the All Star Resorts) that in the past 2 years when I stayed the total of 60 days I always experience the 3:1 frequency ratio.
 
Kelly Grannell said:
I guess it's just my luck (and a few countless thousands of people who stays at the All Star Resorts) that in the past 2 years when I stayed the total of 60 days I always experience the 3:1 frequency ratio.
I don't know about your luck, but I can assure you that there are always more buses on the value routes than any others.
 
more buses yes, but I'm talking about number of buses vs number of riders ratio.

say they give 1 bus for every moderate, and they give 6 buses All Stars Resorts, that doesn't mean they give more bus for All Stars Resorts because the occupancy of the All Stars Resorts is much higher than a moderate resort. It's like saying "I give $300 for the kids of family B and I only give $100 for my kids" but left out the fact that I only have two kids (ie $50 each) but family B has 12 kids (ie $25 each).

It's the ratio that counts, not the number of buses.

If the ratios are approximately equal, then at the time park closes, both groups (moderates vs value resorts) should have the approximately same wait time.
 
Kelly Grannell said:
more buses yes, but I'm talking about number of buses vs number of riders ratio.

say they give 1 bus for every moderate, and they give 6 buses All Stars Resorts, that doesn't mean they give more bus for All Stars Resorts because the occupancy of the All Stars Resorts is much higher than a moderate resort. It's like saying "I give $300 for the kids of family B and I only give $100 for my kids" but left out the fact that I only have two kids (ie $50 each) but family B has 12 kids (ie $25 each).

It's the ratio that counts, not the number of buses.

If the ratios are approximately equal, then at the time park closes, both groups (moderates vs value resorts) should have the approximately same wait time.
I understand completly. The fact is that number of buses on each route is determined by demand. Thus if their is one bus on an AKL route (~1000 rooms) there will be 3 buses on a pop route (~3000). The reason the lines get longer at the value stops than the deluxes is not because of a lack of buses but that they can't get there quick enough. They can only load 1-2-3 buses at a time. The values are the only resorts where they often load multiple buses at once
 

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