All About Fixed Weeks (RIV/CCV/AUL/VGF/POLY/TOWER/VHD/FWC Charts)

[BWV Dreamin]

Is the FW point increase an indication that Disney actually does read these boards?

Considering that everyone (including myself) has been bragging on the Dis about how great of a deal they got with a FW compared to the regular point chart, maybe Disney thought, "well, we need to put a stop to this"...

You have to wonder since a FW circumvents any future point chart increases. But the same thing can be achieved by inflating FW points ( as they are currently doing) and ROFR’ing FW contracts on the resale market ( which they could start doing).

 

[iluvthsgam]

They can shorten the reservation for you. They have to get a supervisor to do it so they can hold the room while they convert the points, but it can be done thereby guaranteeing at least part of the week for you.

note: You won't save many points doing it, and if the point requirement goes up significantly, it might make sense to hold the entire week and just check out early.

Interesting. Is this an official policy or "unofficial policy"? Sounds like it would be a one time exception? Or is this regularly known and happens all the time. That certainly would make it more appealing to me.

 

[iluvthsgam]

Awesome analysis!! The first two weeks of December have been the most in demand ( week #48 and #49). You can’t go wrong owning those weeks. I chose week #49 as it doesn’t roll into the end of Thanksgiving ( which can happen in some years with week #48) , airfare is cheapest during this week and lower crowd levels.

Good points. They aren't selling week 49 in standard resort studio at VGF2 now because it is below the 150 points.

 

[hhisc16]

Is this new DVC PR for calling fixed weeks as "favorite weeks?"
I just recently noticed it, but maybe it has always been labeled that.

 

[iluvthsgam]

Do you have the summer chart comparison for the previous years? I can't seem to find it. It looks like it is being allocated for 2023. mid summer, like maybe July 4th week or something similar? How many points has it been through the years?

I'm not sure what you mean by the "summer chart comparison" but I can go back and look at the charts again to see if something has changed over the summer. July 4th looks like Week 27 - and Disney is not selling that week for standard studio because it must be under 150 points.

 

[iluvthsgam]

Is this new DVC PR for calling fixed weeks as "favorite weeks?"
I just recently noticed it, but maybe it has always been labeled that.

It is new. Not sure when the change was made but it used to be called a Guaranteed Week.

 

[hhisc16]

It is new. Not sure when the change was made but it used to be called a Guaranteed Week.

Interesting. I thought that is what it was called.
Maybe the change for the VGF initiative?

 

[Sandisw]

They can shorten the reservation for you. They have to get a supervisor to do it so they can hold the room while they convert the points, but it can be done thereby guaranteeing at least part of the week for you.

note: You won't save many points doing it, and if the point requirement goes up significantly, it might make sense to hold the entire week and just check out early.


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We bought week 45. At the time we looked at CCV (118 pts for a studio) and RR (130 for a studio). We opted for RR, which we're very happy with, but I'm kicking myself that we didn't buy both since both have increased to the point where they're above the purchase price as far as point requirements.

The rules specifically say the FW is all or nothing. You can not have it modified or adjusted. If you have been allowed to do this, then you are being given something that is specifically not supposed to happen and violates the terms of the home resort rules and regulations in relation to the 11 month booking rule.

You are not even supposed to be able to modify a FW to add more days to it. I would not buy a fixed week assuming that you will be allowed to change it.

 

[Sandisw]

Is the FW point increase an indication that Disney actually does read these boards?

Considering that everyone (including myself) has been bragging on the Dis about how great of a deal they got with a FW compared to the regular point chart, maybe Disney thought, "well, we need to put a stop to this"...

We are pretty confident that Disney has people who review the boards. However, I don't think this decision is because of this. When they began fixed weeks, the minimum for new buyers was less.

Now, it is 150 and it sounds like DVD has become pretty strict with this and will not let any new buyers in for less than that, so they decided to make all FWs that are sold meet the 150 threshold, and decided to update the chart to match the changes that have now occured.

 

[wnielsen1]

We are pretty confident that Disney has people who review the boards.

I wonder what Bob Chapek's username is...

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Good points. They aren't selling week 49 in standard resort studio at VGF2 now because it is below the 150 points.

Are they selling week #48? If so go for it!

 

[BWV Dreamin]

The rules specifically say the FW is all or nothing. You can not have it modified or adjusted. If you have been allowed to do this, then you are being given something that is specifically not supposed to happen and violates the terms of the home resort rules and regulations in relation to the 11 month booking rule.

You are not even supposed to be able to modify a FW to add more days to it. I would not buy a fixed week assuming that you will be allowed to change it.

Correct! Shouldn’t even be a one time exception. Even for straight out cancellation, a manager is needed to override it and convert to points.

 

[miTnosnhoJ]

I have been working on some analysis of the "Favorite Week" options at VGF2 and wanted to post some interesting observations. First I looked at four weeks I was interested in and went back and looked at the old point charts to see what the weeks would have cost just straight booking (not fixed week). I did 2018-2023. This is all for a standard view studio.

	2018​	2019​	2020​	2021​	2022​	2023​
Week 47	125​	144​	144​	152​	154​	164​
Week 48	125​	125​	125​	128​	135​	152​
Week 51	213​	199​	171​	159​	148​	132​
Week 52	153​	167​	195​	217​	234​	234​

Also compared the Disney selling point cost of the fixed week in 2017 compared to 2022 for these weeks.

Week 47: 2017 (158) 2022 (180)
Week 48: 2017 (138) 2022 (167)
Week 51: 2017 (204) 2022 (257)
Week 52: 2017 (199) 2022 (257)

A few takeaways:

• The week 51 fixed week at new VGF2 looks like a total rip off. It will cost 148 points in 2022 and 132 points in 2023, yet Disney is charging 257 points for it. Maybe this is just because of the way Christmas falls for 22/23, but it looks like a huge difference right now. I can't calculate 2024 and forward points because the charts are not out yet. Even the past highest cost (213 points in 2018), that should only be ~ 234 points for the fixed week.
• The difference to buy the week from 2017 to 2022 shows how dramatic the increase in the points chart has been. Buying the fixed week in 2017 has paid dividends in the form of fixed point cost against the large point chart increases over the past six years.
• The 2022 fixed week costs for weeks 47-48 are based on the points cost in 2023, which has a big jump over 2022.

I am not very interested in a fixed week. I don't think I would use all days Sunday to Sunday. But, I was considering buying 200-300 points and thought it can't hurt to also have the fixed as (1) a buffer to future point chart increases and (2) possibility to rent out. Does anyone have an opinions on the most desirable fixed week to rent? I was thinking 47 for Thanksgiving or 51 or 52 for Christmas or New Years. Any others I should consider?

Also, if you buy a fixed week, can that be split into multiple contracts? I.e., if I buy week 47 for 180 points - can that be made up of two contracts of 100 points and 80 points? Or only one single contract? Thinking if I want to break it up and sell smaller contracts down the road.

I was looking at the same thing yesterday. The Favorite Weeks seem to be about a 10% premium over the 2022/2023 points charts. The reason things appear so much higher in your analysis if that they are not offering Standard View Favorite Weeks in the weeks you looked at. So you are comparing the old Standard View points to the new Lake View and Theme Park View points. Some weeks are offered in Standard View, but not the high demand weeks in December.

 

[Matty B13]

I wonder what Bob Chapek's username is...

BCheap_alwys.......

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I was looking at the same thing yesterday. The Favorite Weeks seem to be about a 10% premium over the 2022/2023 points charts. The reason things appear so much higher in your analysis if that they are not offering Standard View Favorite Weeks in the weeks you looked at. So you are comparing the old Standard View points to the new Lake View and Theme Park View points. Some weeks are offered in Standard View, but not the high demand weeks in December.

Except CCV has no standard views. In fact no views at all.

 

[miTnosnhoJ]

Except CCV has no standard views. In fact no views at all.

CCV is not mentioned in my post or the one I replied to.

 

[iluvthsgam]

I was looking at the same thing yesterday. The Favorite Weeks seem to be about a 10% premium over the 2022/2023 points charts. The reason things appear so much higher in your analysis if that they are not offering Standard View Favorite Weeks in the weeks you looked at. So you are comparing the old Standard View points to the new Lake View and Theme Park View points. Some weeks are offered in Standard View, but not the high demand weeks in December.

Hi, thanks. Yes they are. See Disney's Favorite Week chart. They are selling weeks 47-48 and 51-52. (but not 49-50). That is why I was looking at 47-48 and 51-52. I was not looking at Weeks 49-50, because like you said those are not being sold.

For week 47, 2022 cost is 154, 2023 cost is 164 and Disney is charging 180. Which means they are basing it on 2023, not 2022 cost.
For week 48, 2022 cost is 135, 2023 cost is 152 and Disney is charging 167. Again 10% premium on 2023, not 2022.
For week 51, 2022 cost is 148, 2023 cost is 132 and Disney is charging 257! This is a 74% premium over 2022 cost and 95% premium over 2023 cost. The only explanation I can come up with, is that they plan to make it higher in the future. In 2021 this week cost 171 points, in 2020 it was 199 points, and in 2019 it was 213 points.

For week 52 it is 234 points in both 2022 and 2023 so the 10% premium gives you 257 points (which is what Disney is charging). So this makes sense. But no clue what they are doing with Week 51.

 

[Royal Consort]

Hi, thanks. Yes they are. See Disney's Favorite Week chart. They are selling weeks 47-48 and 51-52. (but not 49-50). That is why I was looking at 47-48 and 51-52. I was not looking at Weeks 49-50, because like you said those are not being sold.

For week 47, 2022 cost is 154, 2023 cost is 164 and Disney is charging 180. Which means they are basing it on 2023, not 2022 cost.
For week 48, 2022 cost is 135, 2023 cost is 152 and Disney is charging 167. Again 10% premium on 2023, not 2022.
For week 51, 2022 cost is 148, 2023 cost is 132 and Disney is charging 257! This is a 74% premium over 2022 cost and 95% premium over 2023 cost. The only explanation I can come up with, is that they plan to make it higher in the future. In 2021 this week cost 171 points, in 2020 it was 199 points, and in 2019 it was 213 points.

For week 52 it is 234 points in both 2022 and 2023 so the 10% premium gives you 257 points (which is what Disney is charging). So this makes sense. But no clue what they are doing with Week 51.

I used to covet a FW at VGF. Now there's no way to make them work in your favour for the fall. The premium on top of the high points chart isn't worth Disney automatically booking the week. FW for fall have become redundant at VGF. Especially now there is more studio availability. The scarcity factor evaporated. Just buy points

 

[princesscinderella]

I wonder what Bob Chapek's username is...

Notbobpaycheck

 

[EYL]

Hi, thanks. Yes they are. See Disney's Favorite Week chart. They are selling weeks 47-48 and 51-52. (but not 49-50). That is why I was looking at 47-48 and 51-52. I was not looking at Weeks 49-50, because like you said those are not being sold.

For week 47, 2022 cost is 154, 2023 cost is 164 and Disney is charging 180. Which means they are basing it on 2023, not 2022 cost.
For week 48, 2022 cost is 135, 2023 cost is 152 and Disney is charging 167. Again 10% premium on 2023, not 2022.
For week 51, 2022 cost is 148, 2023 cost is 132 and Disney is charging 257! This is a 74% premium over 2022 cost and 95% premium over 2023 cost. The only explanation I can come up with, is that they plan to make it higher in the future. In 2021 this week cost 171 points, in 2020 it was 199 points, and in 2019 it was 213 points.

For week 52 it is 234 points in both 2022 and 2023 so the 10% premium gives you 257 points (which is what Disney is charging). So this makes sense. But no clue what they are doing with Week 51.

I think Week 51 is that expensive because there are years when Christmas is in Week 51 (like in 2024) and they are selling it as if it's a Christmas week. Much like Easter... Easter is Week 14 in 2023, but on the FW chart, Weeks 12-16 are at a premium (looks like they took an average of Easter week and the week after/before to come up with that cost).