Alcohol at Be Our Guest

[phorsenuf]

I just got a response and they said - and I quote - "there has been an overwhelmingly positive response to this decision."

 

[nyck]

I just got a response and they said - and I quote - "there has been an overwhelmingly positive response to this decision."

I sent them an email THANKING them for this decision. I am thrilled!

 

[gwmort]

I'm all for it. I thought the idea of a "signature" restaurant, advertised as "fine dining" without wine was ludicrous. I was willing to try the counter service lunch, but until today, I had no plans to visit for dinner. No, I am not an alcoholic. No, I do not drink every day. But in my world, good food and good wine go hand in hand.

This, the upscale restaurants didn't make sense without a full fine dining experience, which includes wine.

Would it make people feel better if they installed turnstiles at the front door and called it GF-east or something?

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I just got a response and they said - and I quote - "there has been an overwhelmingly positive response to this decision."

Sorry......the lady I talked to has been givining out the addy to many very upset people., she siad easily 90% agianist!



EVERYONE.Please send a email and complain!

AKK

 

[Tink2Day]

I am very unhappy with this decision!!!!! I'm sure it won't be long until they allow alcohol throughout the entire park. Not looking forward to dealing with the drunks in the MK like we have to at Epcot during the Food and Wine Festival!!!!! This is not something that I should have to worry about in a Disney park!!!!!

I'm not sure where you saw this. I was at the F&W on a Friday night and didn't see one drunk.
Same when I was there on a Monday.
My problem ran more towards rude, obnoxious people at MK.

I don't even drink but I really don't see a problem with this. Better to have it in control than have people going back to their rooms and getting toasted.

I met Walt Disney, he was definitely open to ideas and not afraid of celebrating a little bit.

I'd say all the parks need to be boycotted by people who feel this way, it's pretty hypocritical.

 

[anelson81993]

Personally, I'm not concerned with people getting drunk at BOG. I've never seen an intoxicated person or a group of intoxicated people at WDW, not once during any of my trips, ever. This has nothing to do with anyone wanting to enjoy a drink with their nice meal in the park. I don't care whether Walt liked a drink with dinner, or a cigarette in the park.
However...I personally do not agree with the decision to serve alcohol at BOG. I completely understand how, from a financial perspective, it makes sense. I think that it's a great move for the Walt Disney Company, and it's probably the move they should have made years ago. And I get that the parks don't have to stay exactly the same as they were before; Walt is dead and we can never know what he would think of adding alcohol to the Magic Kingdom. I have no problem making reasonable changes with the parks.
The reason I am against introducing alcohol at BOG is because of Walt, however. Walt made a big deal out of keeping DL dry. In fact, Club 33 (the oft-quoted example of why the Florida MK can serve alcohol--if Walt's original park can serve it, all the others can) has its own seperate address apart from Disneyland just for its liqour license. It was meant to be a private, exclusive place for Walt to entertain investors, and has since become a highly exclusive, members-only club (that admittedly is a lot less exclusive since members can make reservations non-members, but I digress). My point is, simply, Walt designed both DL and the Magic Kingdom to be dry parks. Walt was part of the design of Epcot, and we have no indication that he intended Epcot to be dry. We do know that he made the decision to make the MK an alcohol-free zone, and we do know that he took the extra steps of giving Club 33 its own address just to maintain DL's completely dry status.
Do I think we need to keep absolutely everything exactly within the boundaries of Walt's original design? No. Change happens, and we have to be willing to change with it; we don't know how Walt would feel about any of the massive changes being made to his parks. But when Walt's wishes were as well-known as his wishes on the MK being an alcohol-free park, is it such a big deal to stick to his wishes? We don't know that he would now disapprove of MK serving alcohol--but we do know that when he designed the MK, Walt wanted it dry. Maybe, seeing his park today, he would change his mind--but we have no way of knowing that. With every other park and restaurant not in MK able to serve alcohol, is it really that big of a deal to leave this one little part of the MK as Walt designed it?

 

[buffettgirl]

Sorry......the lady I talked to has been givining out the addy to many very upset people., she siad easily 90% agianist!



EVERYONE.Please send a email and complain!

AKK

Sorry, I don't buy it. It's not what they told me.

 

[minnie mum]

This.

I really can't get that worked up about this. I mean, if you want to look at Club 33, the whole reason it was built was so there was a place to entertain investors. And to do that, they had alcohol. So it's always been a business decision.

I think Walt is certainly an inspiration. But at the end of the day, he was a business man with a grand dream. I agree that it's silly to go around and say "It's not what Walt would have wanted!" Oh really, do you speak to the dead?

One does not need to be able to converse with the dead. Walt was the one who was responsible for making Disneyland a dry park. I think it is quite clear what his feelings were on the subject. If he had wanted liquor to be available to the general public inside Disneyland he would have done so. The mention of Club 33 is a nonstarter. It was never intended for use by the public at large, so really has no relevance in a discussion like this.

Exactly. We have NO IDEA and will NEVER KNOW how Walt's ideas would have evolved over the years. If we really want to be like Walt, should they hand out cigarettes upon park entry?

See my comment above. Yes, I think we know exactly what Walt's feeling was about drinking in Disneyland, since he was the one who instituted the policy in the first place.

As for cigarettes, no they should not hand them out for free, but for many years you could buy them at any park.

it is what he wanted ? it lasted for what 40 years ?

Not trying to make this into an argument, I drink, but one place that was built on "one mans dream" is what made the place so special. The world will not come to an end because alcohol is served in MK. Alcohol is served all over WDW and i have no problem with that. But Maybe i'm and old fashioned traditionalist and believe not every thing is better with change.

My sentiments exactly.

 

[Mousemommy1]

Ironically, this is at Beast's castle...anyone remember the ending of Beauty & the Beast??? For those that don't remember, the angry mob storming the castle...I totally just pictured the people angry about the alcohol re-enacting the scene for the true experience....

 

[tianna26]

I dont get what the big deal is.

 

[Sanchez]

I would think that the only people against this are a few message board Disney fanatics who believe they have unique insight as to what Walt wanted. They are the same people who are most likely to call in with a complaint about something that is really not important in the scheme of things.

 

[minnie mum]

I'm all for it. I thought the idea of a "signature" restaurant, advertised as "fine dining" without wine was ludicrous. I was willing to try the counter service lunch, but until today, I had no plans to visit for dinner. No, I am not an alcoholic. No, I do not drink every day. But in my world, good food and good wine go hand in hand.

BOG is not a signature restaurant. It was never intended as such. It is a 1TS restaurant. I will assume that the beer and wine will not be included in the dining plan.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Sorry, I don't buy it. It's not what they told me.

Don't, not important to me.....you are entitled to your opinion!


Everyone else, put out the word.I am heading to some other baords.see if we can get this off the ground and flying!


AKK

 

[Mick&Minn]

absolutely not an issue its all inside

 

[Sweet Melissa]

It is a 1TS restaurant.

For now.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I would think that the only people against this are a few message board Disney fanatics who believe they have unique insight as to what Walt wanted. They are the same people who are most likely to call in with a complaint about something that is really not important in the scheme of things.

Actually we do, all his wrtten and vidoe comments on why he wanted the MG dry..........read a little about the man please..AKK

 

[IloveDMB]

Don't, not important to me.....you are entitled to your opinion!


Everyone else, put out the word.I am heading to some other baords.see if we can get this off the ground and flying!


AKK

Please do, I wouldn't want this board to be the only one to have the opportunity to laugh at the outrage.

 

[nyck]

Ironically, this is at Beast's castle...anyone remember the ending of Beauty & the Beast??? For those that don't remember, the angry mob storming the castle...I totally just pictured the people angry about the alcohol re-enacting the scene for the true experience....

LOL that is funny! I hope this news will free up some reservation for us that don't care!!

 

[Tink2Day]

As others have said there's alcohol at Club 33 which was designed by Walt himself.
If he didn't want alcohol on Disney property then why did he do this?

Disney can shoot themselves in the foot and ban alcohol at ALL of their parks if they want to hold up the standard that you all have said Walt would have wanted.
Trust me Disneyland is NOTHING like the 1955 version and Walt was behind the changes and progression of the park while he was alive. I saw it change so much since it first opened.

 

[buffettgirl]

Actually we do, all his wrtten and vidoe comments on why he wanted the MG dry..........read a little about the man please..AKK

actually, you have insight into what he wanted 40 years ago.

While perhaps you're inflexible in all things, the rest of us (I'm assuming Walt too) generally learn to alter our opinions as times change.

And also your complaints might be taken more seriously if you use spell check.