Airlines that DON'T give peanuts?

[Planogirl]

I ate lots of peanut butter when I was pregnant too but luckily DS is fine with peanuts.

I am curious about products made with peanut oil. Is that a concern?

 

[DopeyRN]

Kim, if you were upset with my response I do apologize. I know a couple of nurses who have developed severe latex allergies, and believe me I know allergies are nothing to take lightly. I just feel if the allergies are that severe, I personally would not fly. No harm intended.

 

[Cruisin]

Planogirl

In regards to the peanut oil, they say that if the peanut oil is well refined that it will not cause an allergic reaction. That the protein has been removed. But not all peanut oil is created equal and some has not been processed enough to remove the protein properly from the oil.
Therefore I think you will find that peanut allergic people will avoid anything with peanut oil or other nuts or nut oils just to be sure.

 

[kbeverina]

Originally posted by Schmeck
PS - kbeverina, are you sure that an airline can restrict certain activities not stated in their literature that accompanies their ticket sale? I mean, can they tell everyone that underwire bras are not allowed once on board, or that they can't breath? Unless they have stated, in writing, that food is restricted (as is smoking, etc) I don't think they can prevent you from eating a peanut butter sandwich once you are on board.

The captain can make that decision for passenger safety. It can work the other way, too--he/she can have the allergic person taken off the plane for passenger safety. An emergency landing on a full tank of fuel is a passenger safety issue. The airplane is their property--you don't have the right to eat a peanut butter sandwhich on their property.

Can they tell everyone that underwire bras are not allowed once on board? Is that a realistic hypothetical? They're not going to ban things left and right for no reason and risk losing customers. There would have to be a safety issue involved if they instituted such a ban.

Can they tell everyone once on board that they can't breathe? No, their rules can't supercede your constitutional rights.

 

[Planogirl]

I was thinking that they could ban peanuts for safety reasons too. But I can't see how they could police this. Hopefully, most people would be kind and police themselves.

 

[kbeverina]

You would think! My son is diabetic and always carries peanut butter crackers for snacks. Even if it was the only snack we'd carried on board, I would sooner have him drink regular soda if he needed something than insist he have his crackers when another child had this life-threatening allergy.

 

[Schmeck]

kbeverina, is that a legal fact, or your opinion? I guess I didn't state myself clearly enough -

Schmeck, who would not expose someone to peanuts on a flight if asked not to (of course!) but has a problem with the legality of when people are told that the flight is peanut-free.

 

[Spinning]

Thanks for the info...I do remember reading something when my babies were small about not giving them peanut butter till past a year old...that and honey.

 

[Mermaid02]

My ds is allergic to peanuts and none of those scenarios fit us though. He was on soy formula briefly- but other than that nothing. I don't even care for peanut butter!

 

[MeanLaureen]

Hmmm... being told you can't wear underwire bras and being told you can't breathe.

I always blamed the underwire bra on why I was unable to breathe.

 

[suzannen]

No one in my family has nut allergies, but my brother is allergic to bee stings and carries an epi-pen. Once I learned more about these more life-threatening allergies, I stopped carrying peanut and peanut butter snacks when I travel.

Antkim, maybe this thread will cause some folks think twice before packing peanuts or peanut butter on a plane and substituting something else instead, helping to make these flights safer for those who do suffer from these allergies.

 

[kbeverina]

Originally posted by Schmeck
kbeverina, is that a legal fact, or your opinion? I guess I didn't state myself clearly enough -

Schmeck, who would not expose someone to peanuts on a flight if asked not to (of course!) but has a problem with the legality of when people are told that the flight is peanut-free.

No, it's not my opinion. The airlines and pilots themselves have the latitude to set rules and regulations to ensure safety. The crew can tell people not to stand in line to go to the bathroom. They can tell people not to go to the bathroom at all 30 minutes in and out of DC. They can tell people not to play their boomboxes. One captain may deem an electronic device okay while another bans it--they have that discretion. They can deny boarding if you've been drinking. They can deny boarding if you've given them a problem in the past while in flight. They own the plane--they can say who goes on it and what people are allowed to do as long as they're not violating the law.

I'm wondering why you have a problem with a private business setting its own rules and regulations. A cruise line can ban alcohol from being brought on board. A theme park or a movie theater can tell you that you can't eat your own food while there. A restaurant owner can tell you that you can't bring your own birthday cake in or smoke in their establishment. It's the same concept.

 

[skiwee1]

Originally posted by kbeverina
No, it's not my opinion. The airlines and pilots themselves have the latitude to set rules and regulations to ensure safety. The crew can tell people not to stand in line to go to the bathroom. They can tell people not to go to the bathroom at all 30 minutes in and out of DC. They can tell people not to play their boomboxes. One captain may deem an electronic device okay while another bans it--they have that discretion. They can deny boarding if you've been drinking. They can deny boarding if you've given them a problem in the past while in flight. They own the plane--they can say who goes on it and what people are allowed to do as long as they're not violating the law.

I'm wondering why you have a problem with a private business setting its own rules and regulations. A cruise line can ban alcohol from being brought on board. A theme park or a movie theater can tell you that you can't eat your own food while there. A restaurant owner can tell you that you can't bring your own birthday cake in or smoke in their establishment. It's the same concept.

I think Scmeck is having a problem with the airlines making up a rule after you are already seated in the plane. Similar to getting on with your carryon and the attendant announces no carryons. As for us, my DD's best friend has peanut alleriges and DD is very understanding. She knows she cannot eat PB&J the day her friend comes over and we make sure we have non PB snacks for her. My problem with the airline telling me no PB when I'm already boarded is that I may not have another item to feed my DD for lunch. She is very picky about her food and only eats 5 different things as main meals. PB&J is her main food! If I know ahead of time that it is a PB free flight then I can get her something else to eat but if it announced after boarding then I cannot which isn't right. I just could not believe all airlines give last minute rules about PB so I called Airtran, which we frequently fly, and was told they do not every tell their passengers what they can and cannot eat on a flight. So thankfully I will be sticking with Airtran.

 

[Yzma and Kronk]

I read this thread with interest and usually don't like to comment on peanut allergy threads.....
My DS is also allergic. I too gave him peanut butter on toast at about 18mos. He had a small reaction and has always tested positive. However, at his last appointment at 5 yrs - it looks like he is a good candidate to grow out of the allergy (whew!)
Our pediatrician said to me when I brought DS to him with the suspected allergy,
"You shouldn't give peanut butter to a child, unless they are able to use the word "peanut butter" in a full sentence" !
Some may think that is a little harsh, but there is a lot of truth to it.
Antkim - also advise them not to eat at Chickfilet (sp?) when in Florida. I didn't know this when we first moved down here, but they use peanut oil for all their products. It is a fast food chicken restaurant. They have literature on hand explaining that it should be OK for people with allergies, but I never felt comfortable with it.

 

[Lewski709]

Spirit serves prezels and animal crackers, BUT all of the planes out there have been around quite a while and to completely avoid the risks of peanuts/oils, they may have to drive.

Most kids who are severly allergic carry the antidote: epinep.
That would NOT be a fun way to start the trip.

 

[kbeverina]

Originally posted by skiwee1
I think Scmeck is having a problem with the airlines making up a rule after you are already seated in the plane. Similar to getting on with your carryon and the attendant announces no carryons. As for us, my DD's best friend has peanut alleriges and DD is very understanding. She knows she cannot eat PB&J the day her friend comes over and we make sure we have non PB snacks for her. My problem with the airline telling me no PB when I'm already boarded is that I may not have another item to feed my DD for lunch. She is very picky about her food and only eats 5 different things as main meals. PB&J is her main food! If I know ahead of time that it is a PB free flight then I can get her something else to eat but if it announced after boarding then I cannot which isn't right. I just could not believe all airlines give last minute rules about PB so I called Airtran, which we frequently fly, and was told they do not every tell their passengers what they can and cannot eat on a flight. So thankfully I will be sticking with Airtran.

Well, again, I'm sure many people wouldn't like it and it's their right to complain and not buy tickets from that airline again. That's the risk the airline takes. What "isn't right" is giving your daughter the peanut butter sandwhich anyway. I truly can't understand doing something like that when you know there's another child on board who's deathly allergic.

I think the parents of these kids know better than anyone that nothing is guaranteed and know better than anyone that they're still taking a risk. There are airlines out there that don't serve peanut products and are willing to make announcements that no peanut products can be eaten on board. It makes sense to find out which ones do that.

 

[skiwee1]

Originally posted by kbeverina
Well, again, I'm sure many people wouldn't like it and it's their right to complain and not buy tickets from that airline again. That's the risk the airline takes. What "isn't right" is giving your daughter the peanut butter sandwhich anyway. I truly can't understand doing something like that when you know there's another child on board who's deathly allergic.

I think the parents of these kids know better than anyone that nothing is guaranteed and know better than anyone that they're still taking a risk. There are airlines out there that don't serve peanut products and are willing to make announcements that no peanut products can be eaten on board. It makes sense to find out which ones do that.

I never said I would give my child PB in a situation like that. I said I wouldn't like it if I were told not to though after I was already boarded. At that point I wouldn't be able to get anything else which I hardly think is fair or right. I wouldn't feel too good as the parent of the allergic child if I were demanding everyone else to comply. You are correct in that someone with allergies that need a completely PB free flight to check with the airlines. As I've found out not all of them will demand their hundreds of other customers to comply with something concerning one person. If it were my child allergic and I was that concerned then I would drive so as not to risk it or inconvenience others on the plane.

 

[antkim]

I SWORE I wouldn't respond BUT.....

I really can't see most people finding it "inconvient" that they can't eat peanuts on a plane. Is it inconvient when a friend with this allergy comes over to the house and you can't have pb&j then?

Now that I've done my job here and "educated" people on the severeity of this allergy wouldn't it just make more sense to think twice about what you pack to eat on the off chance that this situation may arise? I've never heard of a child dying of hunger on a 3 hour plane ride because they were denied a pb&j sandwhich either. I'm sure some crackers would hold them over just fine.

Forgive me,

Kim

 

[Mermaid02]

Ya know, I have been on both sides of the "peanut issue" within the last year. I was totally annoyed when my ds started kindergarten and was not allowed to take the #1 staple of his diet to school because there was another child in his class who was allergic to peanuts. Then come the May of his kindergarten year he just stops eating peanut anything saying, "It hurts my throat" turns out he was allergic- no more peanut butter around here. Fast forward to November- no more fish (any fish) around here either.

I encourage everyone to be compassionate- anyone can develop an allergy at ANY point in their life. "There but for the grace of God go I."

 

[skiwee1]

Originally posted by antkim
I SWORE I wouldn't respond BUT.....

I really can't see most people finding it "inconvient" that they can't eat peanuts on a plane. Is it inconvient when a friend with this allergy comes over to the house and you can't have pb&j then?

Now that I've done my job here and "educated" people on the severeity of this allergy wouldn't it just make more sense to think twice about what you pack to eat on the off chance that this situation may arise? I've never heard of a child dying of hunger on a 3 hour plane ride because they were denied a pb&j sandwhich either. I'm sure some crackers would hold them over just fine.

Forgive me,

Kim

I am not going to pack something else on the chance that DD might be barred from eating her sandwich. I've never heard of an airline telling anyone they can't eat something anyway. I have heard of PB free flights but that is only for airlines not to give PB on peanut products on the plane but I've never heard of them telling all the passengers not to do so. What next? Banning tunafish or shrimp salad? My same friend's kid that has a PB allergy also cannot tolerate tuna, even the smell or she blows up like a balloon. What about the poster that cannot even smell melon or her throat swells up? So I guess that everyone should think twice before bringing peanuts, shellfish and melon on a plane? When does the nonsense stop? Yes, these allergies can be life threatening but should everyone be policed on what they eat around others? I think the responsiblity lies with the parent and whether they want to risk taking their child on a plane and not on whether the other 100 passengers are carrying an allergen that can kill their child. As I've said, Airtran doesn't bar their paying customers from eating anything and that is what we fly. Thank goodness!