advice needed-my kids"hate"me.

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please could someone tell me what im doing wrong. my boys(8yr twins) are constantly telling me they hate me. i feel im a good mum to them, they dont seem to agree. i am the type of mum who will pick them up on their manners,if there attitude stinks then they will hear about it and be sent to there rooms until they sort it out then they will be allowed out when they apologise. they have started to be cheeky to other adults now and its driving me insane. im getting so embarrassed by there behaviour. i ground them, take their telly out of their rooms, i take their playstation off them but i am still going round in circles. their language is also bad at times. they tend to work like a little tag team,if its not one its the other. the school holidays are starting next week and ive got them for 9weeks and im dreading it. :(
 
If they hate you, you are probably on the right track. Seriously, what kid wants to be punished, but by following through with consequences now, you are doing them a tremendous service.

Have you ever read this? It has gone around the internet for a long time.

"The Meanest Mother in the World"

I had the meanest mother in the whole world. While other kids ate
candy for breakfast, I had to have cereal, eggs or toast. When others
had cokes and candy for lunch, I had to eat a sandwich. As you can
guess, my supper was different than the other kids' also.
But at least, I wasn't alone in my sufferings. My sister and two
brothers had the same mean mother as I did.

My mother insisted upon knowing where we were at all times. You'd
think we were on a chain gang. She had to know who our friends were and
where we were going. She insisted if we said we'd be gone an hour, that
we be gone one hour or less--not one hour and one minute. I am nearly
ashamed to admit it, but she actually struck us. Not once, but each
time we had a mind of our own and did as we pleased. That poor belt was
used more on our seats than it was to hold up Daddy's pants. Can you
imagine someone actualy hitting a child just because he disobeyed? Now
you can begin to see how mean she really was.

We had to wear clean clothes and take a bath. The other kids always
wore their clothes for days. We reached the height of insults because
she made our clothes herself, just to save money. Why, oh why, did we
have to have a mother who made us feel different from our friends?

The worst is yet to come. We had to be in bed by nine each night
and up at eight the next morning. We couldn't sleep till noon like our
friends. So while they slept-my mother actually had the nerve to break
the child-labor law. She made us work. We had to wash dishes, make
beds, learn to cook and all sorts of cruel things. I believe she laid
awake at night thinking up mean things to do to us.

She always insisted upon us telling the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth, even if it killed us- and it nearly did.
By the time we were teen-agers, she was much wiser, and our life
became even more unbearable. None of this tooting the horn of a car for
us to come running. She embarrassed us to no end by making our dates
and friends come to the door to get us. If I spent the night with a
girlfriend, can you imagine she checked on me to see if I were really
there. I never had the chance to elope to Mexico. That is if I'd had a
boyfriend to elope with. I forgot to mention, while my friends were
dating at the mature age of 12 and 13, my old fashioned mother refused
to let me date until the age of 15 and 16. Fifteen, that is, if you
dated only to go to a school function. And that was maybe twice a year.


Through the years, things didn't improve a bit. We could not lie
in bed, "sick" like our friends did, and miss school. If our friends
had a toe ache, a hang nail or serious ailment, they could stay home
from school. Our marks in school had to be up to par. Our friends'
report cards had beautiful colors on them, black for passing, red for
failing. My mother being as different as she was, would settle for
nothing less than ugly black marks.

As the years rolled by, first one and then the other of us was put
to shame. We were graduated from high school. With our mother behind
us, talking, hitting and demanding respect, none of us was allowed the
pleasure of being a drop-out.

My mother was a complete failure as a mother. Out of four
children, a couple of us attained some higher education. None of us
have ever been arrested, divorced or beaten his mate. Each of my
brothers served his time in the service of this country. And whom do we
have to blame for the terrible way we turned out? You're right, our
mean mother. Look at the things we missed. We never got to
take part in a riot, burn draft cards, burn the flag, and a
million and one other things that our friends did.

She forced us to grow up into God-fearing, educated, honest adults.
Using this as a background, I am trying to raise my three
children. I stand a little taller and I am filled with pride when my
children call me mean.

Because, you see, I thank God, He gave me the meanest mother in the whole world.


written by Bobbie Pingaro (1967)
 
If your children "hate" you then you are probably doing an excellent job in the parenting department.
 

yep my daughter has told me that but you know what I know I am a good Mom and what I want for my children. Sounds like you are doing a fine job.

The one thing I had to do with my daughter was find the one thing that would really get to her as a punishment. I made her stand for 5 minutes in a corner one day while I was cooking dinner. She was a new child after that.

I also think your kids know it bothers you when they say that. Hang in there and ((((((((HUGS))))))))
 
I find that it helps to not react to the extreme. They may keep telling you that they "hate" you because they know that it bothers you. Of course it bothers you, but just don't react to it. It bothers my husband when she says it to me (she hasn't done it in a while), but I just tell DD that it's fine and she still needs to respect me. And I tell her that I'm not her friend, so I don't need to be liked. I tell her that she is welcome to feel how she feels.

I have an 8 year old girl. We just take things from her (find their "currency" - what is important to them, what they value, whether it is things, like the playstation, or priviledges, like going to a party or friend's house or tv time). And then she earns them back with good behavior. This has worked since she was about 3, although her currency has changed.

I also find that it helps to set up the rules in advance. Give them expectations and don't back down when they cross it. We give DD two chances per day. She gets something back if she doesn't get two bad marks. And she loses something if she does get two bad marks ("tallies").

And we keep the rules short and simple...no talking back, no lying, and do what you are told (which might need to be changed to do what is expected, like chores that she does daily).

Good luck!
 
I'm with the others on this one - sounds like you're doing a great job. It's just another phase in raising children - you just get a double whammy! My ds was doing some of this a few weeks ago - mainly the sassy talk - that's something I can't tolerate - we also tried punishing, taking games away, taking privileges away - etc.... - one day I threw my hands up and put him in time-out - yes, time-out for an eight year old. He told me I was treating him like a baby, and I told him he was acting like one - it happened twice within 3 days, and suddenly I've got my sweet boy back! Keep trying - every child is different and they all need different discipline - you're on the right track, though - don't let them wear you down! Remember your fellow DISers love you!
 
The first time you hear "I hate you" it pretty much breaks your heart. They just mean they hate the fact you are giving them rules. :) I think we've all heard that at some point, and pretty much all you can do is stick to what you've been doing. Follow through on any punishment you dole out. Taking things away that mean something to them, although sometimes it's a punishment for you-like not letting them play outside-tends to work with most kids. My daughter didn't play outside for a week. She scored 3 goals in one soccer game that weekend! Her coach asked me to ground her every week. She then told me it wasn't good for her to not have a least one hour a day of playtime-her gym teacher told her so. So far I have'nt got "whatever" with an eye roll. Good luck. There's some good advice from OP here!
 
please could someone tell me what im doing wrong. my boys(8yr twins) are constantly telling me they hate me. i feel im a good mum to them, they dont seem to agree. i am the type of mum who will pick them up on their manners,if there attitude stinks then they will hear about it and be sent to there rooms until they sort it out then they will be allowed out when they apologise. they have started to be cheeky to other adults now and its driving me insane. im getting so embarrassed by there behaviour. i ground them, take their telly out of their rooms, i take their playstation off them but i am still going round in circles. their language is also bad at times. they tend to work like a little tag team,if its not one its the other. the school holidays are starting next week and ive got them for 9weeks and im dreading it. :(

I always say, if your child says they HATE you it is likely because they REALLY know how great a mom you are, I mean, they know you'll love them no matter WHAT so they KNOW they can get away with saying it.
This too shall pass, they are growing boys!!:cool1:
 
My DS (he's 10) has just started telling me that. The first time he did it, I said "good, it means that I'm being the best mom in the world!" He looked at me like he was very confused and he hasn't told me that since.

A good friend of mine had the opposite reaction...she (after being told this by her children for a bit) broke down and cried. Her kids were dumbfounded and very apologetic. She reminded them that just as their school mates "harsh words" hurt them, their harsh words hurt her. They've never said it since.

I think it's a common stage that kids go through. All I can say is hang in there.

BTW...there was a mom in Iowa or Kansas who took out an ad in the paper saying something like...meanest mom in America selling son's car. You might try googling that for a good chuckle.

I'm sure you are a wonderful mom. You know what...as I site here and type this I remember a day in 1st grade when some girls were misbehaving after school and I told them to stop it immediately and that I knew they knew better. One of the little girls (who I still can't stand) told me she felt sorry y son since I was the meanest mom ever. I told her that she was right and had darn well remember that for the future! (I also reminded her that I go on field trips often and I hoped that she and I would spend lots of time together...needless to say, that shut her up!)

Hang in there!
 
For the record, though, my husband has come down of the kids for saying that.

They're allowed to be as mad at me as they want. They're even allowed to hate me. They're just not allowed to tell me to my face.

I honestly never thought about it until he made it an issue. But, now that he has, I agree. I most certainly deserve more respect than that.

And, for the record, I agree: being a good parent means imposing boundaries, and kids are going to hate that. It's the parents who are never hated that concern me.

But, as to summer vacation: I think you need a family meeting. Choose a time when no one is in trouble and you can handle it rationally-- maybe over dinner or dessert one night. Let the boys know that you're looking forward to summer-- to all the things you want to do together. BUT-- that's only possible if they behave. Ask for their help-- what do they think are reasonable rules and consequences? See if you can get everyone on the same page as to what should happen. Maybe they'll try harder to be good if you'll extend bedtime for half an hour over the summer, or something. And if they've already agreed on the consequences for a foul mouth, it might be a little easier to enforce. (They'll still be mad when you punish them, of course, they're kids. But I think the tantrums might be a bit shorter this way.)
 
For the record, though, my husband has come down of the kids for saying that.

They're allowed to be as mad at me as they want. They're even allowed to hate me. They're just not allowed to tell me to my face.

I honestly never thought about it until he made it an issue. But, now that he has, I agree. I most certainly deserve more respect than that.

I agree. My kids are younger (5 and 3), but they are absolutely NOT allowed to say they hate a person or something connected to a person (I hate your clothes for example). I think that it's very disrespectful to say that to someone. Since you are trying to teach your children how to be respectful to adults I would add a rule about saying they hate anyone.

It also sounds like they are trying to get to you. I would combine the no hate rule with a very neutral attitude. Try not to show any emotion when you set the rule down. If you're matter-of-fact, they probably aren't getting the reaction they are hoping for and they will probably let up.
 
BTW...there was a mom in Iowa or Kansas who took out an ad in the paper saying something like...meanest mom in America selling son's car. You might try googling that for a good chuckle.

You know what...as I site here and type this I remember a day in 1st grade when some girls were misbehaving after school and I told them to stop it immediately and that I knew they knew better. One of the little girls (who I still can't stand) told me she felt sorry y son since I was the meanest mom ever. I told her that she was right and had darn well remember that for the future! (I also reminded her that I go on field trips often and I hoped that she and I would spend lots of time together...needless to say, that shut her up!)


lol!! that is great! I'm not a mom yet but I already worry about being a "good mom" and man, I wish I could take tips from you! hilarious! :lmao:
 
Keep sticking to your guns--you're PARENTING, which is great! I agree with the pp who said to find what works as a punishment and then be consistent.
By the way, my response to dd11 when she used to say, "I hate you!" was, "Oh. That's a shame, because I love you. I know you're angry with me." This usually diffused the situation.
 
First let me say that if they hate you that is good.

This is what I would/have said to my kid. I tell them to get use to the feeling (hating me) because they will feel it alot.

This is what I do next:

Usually they get over the anger and then want a friend to play or go out or even better they have an activity to attend that day. Well said child comes to you and says "Mum I need you to.....(insert whatever)" At this point I say "Sorry couldn't possibly do....(insert whatever)...you hate me remember." WELL you will get a reaction, stick it out, DON"T do XYZ for them that day EVEN if they appologize. Accept the appology but tell them there are consequences and today they will not be doing XYZ.

I did this once for each son and never had the problem again. I am sure they still hate me but they keep it to themselves. I am the parent not a friend so I don't care if they hate me.

I have a DSis whose kids said it all the time...even now and they are almost adults. Why? because she cries and gives in to them.

Believe me I am the meanest mother in the world. My kid have no TV or phone in their rooms. We do not own a video game unit of any kind and wait for it....the computer is in the living room where all can see what is going on...gasp. There is no expectation of privacy. I do not send them off to play or watch tv they do that where we can socialize together.

I run a really tight ship and have done since the day they were born. Now at 14 and almost 9 both DSs I can honestly not remember the last time I have had to discipline either of them. They are awesome kids.

I was once told that kids give you the behaviour you expect to recieve therefore if you expect brats that is what you get (from any kid, not just yours) if youi expect that your kids will behave properly that is how they behave. I know sounds strange but it really works.

I also tell my kids on a regular basis that they may reside in a free country but they live in my dictatorship.
 
If they hate you, you are probably on the right track. Seriously, what kid wants to be punished, but by following through with consequences now, you are doing them a tremendous service.

Have you ever read this? It has gone around the internet for a long time.

"The Meanest Mother in the World"

I had the meanest mother in the whole world. While other kids ate
candy for breakfast, I had to have cereal, eggs or toast. When others
had cokes and candy for lunch, I had to eat a sandwich. As you can
guess, my supper was different than the other kids' also.
But at least, I wasn't alone in my sufferings. My sister and two
brothers had the same mean mother as I did.

My mother insisted upon knowing where we were at all times. You'd
think we were on a chain gang. She had to know who our friends were and
where we were going. She insisted if we said we'd be gone an hour, that
we be gone one hour or less--not one hour and one minute. I am nearly
ashamed to admit it, but she actually struck us. Not once, but each
time we had a mind of our own and did as we pleased. That poor belt was
used more on our seats than it was to hold up Daddy's pants. Can you
imagine someone actualy hitting a child just because he disobeyed? Now
you can begin to see how mean she really was.

We had to wear clean clothes and take a bath. The other kids always
wore their clothes for days. We reached the height of insults because
she made our clothes herself, just to save money. Why, oh why, did we
have to have a mother who made us feel different from our friends?

The worst is yet to come. We had to be in bed by nine each night
and up at eight the next morning. We couldn't sleep till noon like our
friends. So while they slept-my mother actually had the nerve to break
the child-labor law. She made us work. We had to wash dishes, make
beds, learn to cook and all sorts of cruel things. I believe she laid
awake at night thinking up mean things to do to us.

She always insisted upon us telling the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth, even if it killed us- and it nearly did.
By the time we were teen-agers, she was much wiser, and our life
became even more unbearable. None of this tooting the horn of a car for
us to come running. She embarrassed us to no end by making our dates
and friends come to the door to get us. If I spent the night with a
girlfriend, can you imagine she checked on me to see if I were really
there. I never had the chance to elope to Mexico. That is if I'd had a
boyfriend to elope with. I forgot to mention, while my friends were
dating at the mature age of 12 and 13, my old fashioned mother refused
to let me date until the age of 15 and 16. Fifteen, that is, if you
dated only to go to a school function. And that was maybe twice a year.


Through the years, things didn't improve a bit. We could not lie
in bed, "sick" like our friends did, and miss school. If our friends
had a toe ache, a hang nail or serious ailment, they could stay home
from school. Our marks in school had to be up to par. Our friends'
report cards had beautiful colors on them, black for passing, red for
failing. My mother being as different as she was, would settle for
nothing less than ugly black marks.

As the years rolled by, first one and then the other of us was put
to shame. We were graduated from high school. With our mother behind
us, talking, hitting and demanding respect, none of us was allowed the
pleasure of being a drop-out.

My mother was a complete failure as a mother. Out of four
children, a couple of us attained some higher education. None of us
have ever been arrested, divorced or beaten his mate. Each of my
brothers served his time in the service of this country. And whom do we
have to blame for the terrible way we turned out? You're right, our
mean mother. Look at the things we missed. We never got to
take part in a riot, burn draft cards, burn the flag, and a
million and one other things that our friends did.

She forced us to grow up into God-fearing, educated, honest adults.
Using this as a background, I am trying to raise my three
children. I stand a little taller and I am filled with pride when my
children call me mean.

Because, you see, I thank God, He gave me the meanest mother in the whole world.


written by Bobbie Pingaro (1967)

My mom has a copy of this in my baby book! I was born just a few years after it was written.:lmao:
 
The word Hate is not allowed to be used in my family in regards to people. I would take the boys out one at a time and let them know that this word really hurts your's and other people's feelings and that it is not going to be tollerated anymore. Let them know that if they use the word hate (in regards to people) it will cause an instant consequence, like donating a toy to charity or scrubbing the toilet, even doubling the already set punishment. Stick to your guns and soon they will find that there is no reward for saying it. I agree with the other poster that they only use it because they know how it affects you.
DD can say I don't like you, your mean even you suck but never I hate you! When she does say any of those things to me I smile and say "and I'm ok with that !:goodvibes
 
I just said " you can't hate me I' m your mother. I will always be your mother and I will always love you. But you can be mad at me all you want. That's fine."

She is 30 now with two kids of her own and now she is doing the same to them.
 
I'm sure all kids "hate" their parents at some time or another! That's a part of a kid's job description, as much as laying down the law for our kids is part of the job description of a good parent!

My then 8 year old stepson once threatened to have his mom call the police because I grabbed him to stop him from slamming one of the younger, smaller kids into the fridge. My response, "Hey. Let me make it easier for you. You won't even need to call your mom and disturb her at work, you can call the police yourself! I'll give you the number for the nearest police station. Because, if I EVER catch you manhandling the girls again, not only will I grab you, I will punish you so severely you won't know what happened. So here's the number!" And I wrote the number of the nearest police station on the whiteboard on the fridge! Of course, DH was initially a little puzzled when he returned from work to see in BIG red letters "XYZ Police Station - Tel XXX-XXXX" but then jumped right into "Sure, it make sense to have the police number just in "Johnny" needs to use it! No need to disturb mom - you're a big boy now, you can call the police yourself!" I'm sure stepson walked away that evening wondering if we were both crazy!

Another time, he screamed at me "I hate you!" He was SHOCKED when I said, "I couldn't care less if you hate me because right now, with the way you're behaving, you're making it very hard for anyone to even LIKE you!" He threatened to tell DH. My response - go ahead and tell him if you like, but I've already told him how I feel! That shut him up promptly!

Never heard any further discussion about police or pronouncements of hatred. 10 years later, I am one of the only people (if not the only person) on the planet that he doesn't mouth off to!

Your kids will thank you later for being Meanie Mom! Just last week, my almost 16 year old DD, never one to give any trouble, was moaning and groaning because I wouldn't let her go to a nightclub like many of her school friends, who go with their parents' blessings. (What right thinking parent would ALLOW their underage teens to a club???") I later learned that she told a friend, "I feel left out but at least I know my mom loves me enough NOT to let me run wild! I'd hate to have parents who didn't give a damn!" I know she won't admit that conversation to me right now, but I am pleased that she is mature enough to understand that my rules are for her protection, not her ruin!
 
The word Hate is not allowed to be used in my family in regards to people. I would take the boys out one at a time and let them know that this word really hurts your's and other people's feelings and that it is not going to be tollerated anymore.

DD can say I don't like you, your mean even you suck but never I hate you! When she does say any of those things to me I smile and say "and I'm ok with that !:goodvibes


That's how it worked in my house too. The girls are not allowed to say they "hate" me, each other, or anyone else for that matter. It's rude and will not be tolerated. They can be mad at me, or anyone else, but no way arre they allowed to say they "hate someone".
 


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