Adobe Photoshop and CS

[Dznefreek]

Post the pic so we can see what you are talking about.

 

[Furgus]

you can try this.

http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=245

 

[Terk-1]

After numerous recommendations, I purchased Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0 & Premiere Elements 3.0 last night.

Am heading to Barnes & Noble tonight after work and am looking for a great guide book (but one that is easy to figure things out) for these softwares. Can anyone recommend one????

Also, what is the easiest way to create a slideshow (with music) in Photoshop?

 

[jann1033]

i love the missing manual. Barbra Brundage...barnes and noble around $33
it's a great reference book and easy to follow

for the slide show, go to create on the top of the organizer and it has an option for slideshow...you just load your photos and music by going to the add media button, very self explanatory...you can add music from itunes or something also and automatically fit the music to the slides or chose to makes the slides remain longer/shorter..the only think i would recommend is have them completely edited before you chose them..it's a little of a pain to edit from the slide show maker ( can be done, just more clicking) have fun! it's very easy and the few i've done have gotten rave reviews

 

[jann1033]

everytime i try to do an incremental backup, it won't do it..i
t works till you have to load in the disks you made last time then says the backup disks it made last time are not backup disks (which it needs to know where to start backing up). anyone know how i can get around that or what is wrong... i really don't want more copies of all 5000+ previously backed up photos everytime i want to backup 200 or so photos
i have windows xp and canon software...is there any other way to back my stuff up that will still open in photoshop?
so glad i spend $75 for a program that i have to uninstall every two weeks or i can't use it to edit files, backup files, etc etc etc. wondering if that is why it doesn't recognize the backup disks it made. would having to constantly repair/uninstall/reinstall change something so maybe it doesn't recognize the disks...& adobe is of course once again absolutely not helpful what so ever.

 

[jann1033]

well 2 weeks have gone by so my "normal" photoshop crash that happens every 2 weeks is happening once again( can't reload edited photos, can't backup, etc etc etc etc)
i am wondering if anyone who downloaded from adobe directly( rather than actually bought a disk) is having a problem with it? i know from other websites others are having the same problems but it seems once they uninstall once it is fixed( unless they just don't post again) i am wondering if there is some glitch when you download from the website...i sent an email to adobe last night and said i want an actual disk and my money back like that is going to happen...but i am so fed up with this. i tried a "repair" before i did an uninstall/reinstall and it appears i can now add edited photos to the organizer but still can not do an incrememtal backup ( started another thread about that)

 

[Steve's Girl]

well 2 weeks have gone by so my "normal" photoshop crash that happens every 2 weeks is happening once again( can't reload edited photos, can't backup, etc etc etc etc)
i am wondering if anyone who downloaded from adobe directly( rather than actually bought a disk) is having a problem with it? i know from other websites others are having the same problems but it seems once they uninstall once it is fixed( unless they just don't post again) i am wondering if there is some glitch when you download from the website...i sent an email to adobe last night and said i want an actual disk and my money back like that is going to happen...but i am so fed up with this. i tried a "repair" before i did an uninstall/reinstall and it appears i can now add edited photos to the organizer but still can not do an incrememtal backup ( started another thread about that)

I cannot impart any wisdom; however, I can add to your complaint. I downloaded the 30 day trial from Adobe. Oh my... I thought I just wasn't smart enough to figure it out. It kept locking up our computer, etc. (our computer is not that old). So, for now, I have decided not to buy the program until either I can get smarter or a different version is released that isn't so quirky.

 

[MICKEY88]

have you checked their site to see if there might be an update or patch....I know with paint shop pro, there were a few issues and they had a downloadable patch that fixed them...


better yet switch to PAint Shop PRo Photo XI

 

[MICKEY88]

I take it you are adding to previously burned disks,, I've heard this can sometimes cause problems for some reason....

I would recomend getting an external hard drive, once you burn to disk, then move your pics to the external drive, starting fresh with your internal drive, that way you have 2 safe copies of your pics if your hard drive should crash, plus you can simpy burn everything from your internal drive each time...

 

[Furgus]

Anything by Scott Kelby is what I would recommend.

 

[DueyDooDah]

From what I can tell, looking around the different forums, PSE5 seems to have bugs. Adobe has not released any patches for the program yet, and my experience shows Adobe is one of the worst companies when it comes to support. They will release patches, but they do not let you know about it or make it easy to find. Talking with them on the phone is, at best, painful and their forums are not monitored well, if at all. Adobe is on my personal list of one of the most disliked companies and has been for many years.

In any case, when a patch is finally released, it will be posted here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=40&platform=Windows

 

[MarkBarbieri]

I've been dealing with Adobe and many of their products for more than a decade now. I have found them to be more reliable than most comparable software, but far from perfect. I haven't used PSE5, so I cannot comment directly on that.

Product quality aside, they have always been one of the worst companies to deal with. At one point they orphaned an Acrobat variant for which I had several hundred licenses. It took me two days and about 20 different phone calls to determine the fate of the product and what their migration plan was.

 

[jann1033]

i was starting to think it was just me... i got it working, temporarily again i am sure and for some reason it decided to save all my 2007 photos under "canon"????weird since i used the photoshop down loader to get them...maybe the photoshop organizer is rejecting my photos...everyone's a critic so i am attempting to move them to a new folder in adobe...holy crow what a day and 1/2 this has been..they did mistakenly ask me to fill out a customer satisfaction survey when i checked for patches..big mistake on their part.. picture Donald duck but much better at pronunciation

 

[DueyDooDah]

I do things a bit different when transferring (xferring) images. I xfer the files using the Canon EOS Utility. This gives me the file naming convention I want in the folders I want. I like to use the date-taken for the filename convention, which my PSE4 does not do during file xfer, and which EOS Util does. PSE4 can only use the date-xferred, which does not help me.

Once the files are xferred, I close out the ZoomBrowser (which loads after the xfer), copy all files to my NAS device, then start up PSE4. I use the Import Files option in the Organizer, point to the new folders on the NAS device, then do all my image tagging while the new images are separated from the ones already in the Organizer.

I never rename files and I do not imort the files that were xferred onto my local hard drive into the Organizer. The local files are for editing and playing with. I use the Organizer to point to all my files on the NAS device, only.

Note that I don't keep the files on my local hard drive long. Just about a month, at most. If I haven't done anything with them in that amount of time, I probably won't. If I need a file later, I use the Orgnizer to find it, then copy it to the local drive and use the Editor to manipulate it.

This way the Organizer does not need to process alot of file movement and always contains everything I want to have available. Also, I only edit copys, never the original images.

I don't think much of Adobe's download utility. They don't seem to have put alot of thought into it, especially in the are of file naming. Although, they may have imroved it in PSE5.

 

[jann1033]

sorry my brain is fried..NAS=?
do you think the organizer could be the problem? i did have everything nice and orderly then when i moved it off line i lost all the folders i guess cause now when i point to a folder it opens the first folder in the catalog but i have to scroll the whole way ( uhummm 9000 photos including originals and copies)through the catalog for everything else so i guess i lost the folders somehow when i moved them off line...although they still have the right folder heading in the organizer, it just doesn't do anything when i try to go there in the folder list ( they are in my documents in the correct folders although everything i moved off line has a blank folder for it and a few folders in the organizer will bring up the right place in the catalog with the little disk icon but not most of them) and the tags still work, just i don't have tags for everything.
as soon as i get some extra money i'm getting an extenal harddrive and wondering if i put the photoshop and raw software i have on there also everything would be in one place and just use that for strictly photos. I am afraid with the pse5 continually crashing someday it's going to mess up the whole computer....guessing i just get to an external harddrive like anyother drive , point and click?

 

[MICKEY88]

I would keep the software on your PC, and just store your pics on the external drive..

yes you just point and click to access an external drive,

do you clean and defrag your pc on a regular basis, photo editing software can be real memory hogs and a lot of clutter will slow them down even more and possibly cause crashes or other problems...

 

[Snurk71]

I bought the Scott Kelby book and I like it. Instead of taking you through the menus and what each function does, he organizes the book into likely situations you'll find yourself in and then walks you through the solution steps.

 

[DueyDooDah]

sorry my brain is fried..NAS=?

Sorry, Network Attached Storage. It basically an external hard drive that acts similar to a server, although not as "smart".

do you think the organizer could be the problem? i did have everything nice and orderly then when i moved it off line

I'm not sure what you mean by this? I have found that you should maintain a connection to any externally stored images so that PSE knows where to get the original, full sized image (it stores thumbnail views of the images in it's own database, the theory being that you don't have to have direct connection to the original, but I find this to be unreliable) when you double-click on it.

as soon as i get some extra money i'm getting an extenal harddrive and wondering if i put the photoshop and raw software i have on there also everything would be in one place and just use that for strictly photos. I am afraid with the pse5 continually crashing someday it's going to mess up the whole computer....guessing i just get to an external harddrive like anyother drive , point and click?

Yes, getting to an external drive is the same as any other. Moving your software, as Mickey88 stated, to your external drive is not a good idea. The best strategy is have your software on you C: drive and data (the images) on some other drive (preferably an external device). There a number of reasons why, but I don't think you need to be bogged down with details.

With the state you are now in, I am going to suggest (wait for it ............) to start a new catalog. I know this is a pain but I think you may be in a position that would require more time to recover than to start over.

I suggest you place your image files in their appropriate location using the Windows file manager. Once everything is where you want it, then use PSE to build a new catalog. I usually import (using the File | Get Photos | From Files and Folders option) the images one folder at a time. This gives me a small number of items to have to tag at one time, making it more managable and less stressful for me. I can then stop at any point, continuing later when I feel like it.

One significant point I want to rephrase. I do not move, rename, or otherwise change anything about the original image, including folder names and locations, after I import it into PSE. This just causes me headaches, and I can get those anytime/place, so try not to add to them. If something does happen to a file or folder, use the File | Reconnect option in PSE to attempt to fix it. This may or may not be easy or successful, depending on what happened to the original file.

I wish you success, no matter what route you take to fix your issue.

 

[DueyDooDah]

I love Scott's books. They are to the point and help you accomplish the task you set out to do. But, I find it lacking, also. I'm one of those people that want to know how and why. Scott's book left me scratching my head after awhile. I think you'll need more once you've been through it a time or two. But, there is no other book more valuable for the quick and dirty.

 

[jann1033]

sorry just a few ?? to make sure i understand this


I have found that you should maintain a connection to any externally stored images so that PSE knows where to get the original, full sized image (it stores thumbnail views of the images in it's own database, the theory being that you don't have to have direct connection to the original, but I find this to be unreliable) when you double-click on it.

the first or second time it stopped, the tech support said my hard drive was probably to full( i have about 50 gb empty and it says pse5 needs 1.5 gb but ??) so i thought i should move them offline till i could get an external storage drive...i put them all on dvds and i can get to them that way, it's just a pain in the neck and sometimes the thumbnails that are still in the organizer don't work but i just make the dvd thumnails and i can find it pretty fast, as so far it has told what disk to use for that group ...plus i don't really use them much anyway but don't want to lose them


I suggest you place your image files in their appropriate location using the Windows file manager. Once everything is where you want it, then use PSE to build a new catalog. I usually import (using the File | Get Photos | From Files and Folders option) the images one folder at a time. This gives me a small number of items to have to tag at one time, making it more managable and less stressful for me. I can then stop at any point, continuing later when I feel like it.

so just make folders and put the dvd images in each folder than import to the organizer as i finish a folder...

I do not move, rename, or otherwise change anything about the original image, including folder names and locations, after I import it into PSE.

so then i could seperate the origin als from the copies and keep the rest where, on the external hard drive in the organizer? i have tried to unsucessfully reconnect a few times but i still have those photos in my documents or on other backup disks. right now i have the copies and originals in the same folders...do you save them in seperate locations on your computer

I wish you success, no matter what route you take to fix your issue.[/QUOTE] something tells me i'll need it



thanks for everyone's help...hopefully i can get this working as i like the actual way i can use the program just not all the problems i have had with it.