Abnormal Quad screen :(

maedelken

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Has anyone had an abnormal quad screen before. I am 32 and my quad screen came back abnormal hig risk for downs. My normal range for my age was 1 in 453 mine came back 1 in 150. I am totally freaking out and crying. What does this mean has anyone else had a similar thing happen and their baby end up normal? I guess I need som reassurance. My doctor kept reminding me that this is still less then a 1% chance. Ugh but I can't help worrying. I am 17 weeks and they scheduled my level 2 for wednesday so I guess we will know more then. I am trying to stay strong but it is so hard.
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I have been down a similar road and can only offer you HUGS:grouphug:
 
My cousin gave birth at age 30 to a beautiful little angel with downs. She is now 6 years old and a joy to everyone that knows her. :lovestruc While she was not exactly the child that her parents first expected, she is the joy of their lives. She is now enjoying her role as big sister to a 2 year old brother.

I know that this may be a difficult time for you but please know that even if your child is born a little different than you expected, that child will be an amazing blessing in your life.

The wonderful thing about dreams is that even when they change a little they are no less amazing! :hug:
 
I had my twins when I was 41...so I would have been thrilled with a screening score of 1/150. Mine was 1/95 or something like that. Here's how I looked at it to make myself feel better until my amnio. 1 out of 95 meant that 94 out of 95 times (or in your case, 149 out of 150) my babies would be perfectly healthy. That made me feel some better. But, what really got me was when someone said to me...look, if it was a lottery that you were playing, and 149 out of 150 times you would win the BIG prize, would you play? That's a no-brainer, right? You'd take those odds any day.

I'm certain things will be just fine. My twins are as healthy and normal as two kids could ever be. :-) I'm so glad I took that chance.
 

My friend had an abnormal quad screen and a couple of other screenings that showed a strong possibility for Downs. They prepared for a child with disabilities. Their baby boy turned out perfectly healthy. I had a baby at 37 and would have been very happy with your results too!
 
Awwwwww....

I wouldn't worry. :hug:

Wait for the U/S. If they find no markers, then you should be back to a normal risk.

I have a friend who does have a child with downs--they didn't know until 2 days after birth and NOTHING ever came up prenatally.

All that stuff is imperfect anyway. Rest easy and enjoy your Ultrasound tomorrow!

And my friend--her son is a joy, completely mainstreamed, annoyed with his little sister and like any other new teenager, gets annoyed when mom doesn't let him grow up. :laughing: He has sleepovers, hangs out with friends--pretty much most things typical for a teenage boy.
 
Has anyone had an abnormal quad screen before. I am 32 and my quad screen came back abnormal hig risk for downs. My normal range for my age was 1 in 453 mine came back 1 in 150. I am totally freaking out and crying. What does this mean has anyone else had a similar thing happen and their baby end up normal? I guess I need som reassurance. My doctor kept reminding me that this is still less then a 1% chance. Ugh but I can't help worrying. I am 17 weeks and they scheduled my level 2 for wednesday so I guess we will know more then. I am trying to stay strong but it is so hard.
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I had a bad AFP test -- alpha fetal protein -- with my oldest (now about to turn 16), which is the older version of what you're describing. Just like you, they told me that there was a chance that my baby'd have Down Syndrome. Just like you, I freaked out, cried, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep. Those weeks of not knowing were some of the worst in my life.

I went in the very next day and had an advanced ultrasound and an amniocentesis. It was the best thing I could've done. The ultrasound technician at the hospital was much better than the one in the doctor's office, and she pointed out a number of very reassuring things: She said that the baby's arm/leg ratio were proportional to the trunk, whereas babies with Down Syndrome tend to have shorter arms/legs. Same thing for the neck length. She showed us loads of details such as the baby's perfect four-chambered heart and her two kidneys. The doctor told us that although no ultrasound could say with certainty, our baby appeared to be perfectly healthy. Like I said, it was a much more complete ultrasound than the ones they did in the doctor's office.

We talked to a genetics counselor in the hospital, who took loads of information from us . . . and then told us that Down Syndrome is rather random, and my age (I was 27) was the best predictor. (Gee, thanks. Are you charging us for that information?)

And then I had the amnio. It wasn't pleasant, but I couldn't wait months and months with the idea that my baby might have a serious problem. It was a couple weeks 'til the results came back, but they told us with absolute certainty that she did NOT have Down Syndrome.

When all this was going on, my mom was out of town, and I didn't tell her any of it. After I'd done all the tests and was in the waiting phase, I told her about it, and she immediately said without a note of concern in her voice, "This is all going to come to nothing." She reminded me that I'd had an odd urine test during a physical when I was teenager, and they'd tested me for this and that thing, and they'd finally determined that I'm a "protein thrower", which means that I don't hold onto as much protein as other people do. And this affects me . . . well, not at all. Literally, I'd forgotten it. But it did cause me to have a bad AFP test.

Oh, here's another big point: Though a really odd turn of events, the school secretary announced to the entire school that something was really wrong and my doctor was on the phone. So the students began making up horrible things: my baby was dead, my husband had just left me. And the teachers ASKED me what was going on. In a small school, something like 6-8 other teachers had PERSONALLY had a similar experience. One of them had discovered that her much-wanted baby actually did have Down Syndrome, and she had chosen to have an abortion. All the others had good news at the end of their crisis, just like I did. And in addition to those 6-8, at least 15 other teachers told me that a friend of theirs had gone through something simliar -- and every single one of them had had a good result at the end.

Admittedly, I'm talking about something that happened 16 years ago, and things may not be the same today. But these false-positives are VERY, VERY common. MOST women who hear, "Your baby may have Down Syndrome" go on to have a perfectly normal baby. The AFP test is a BAD TEST. It causes worry unnecessarily.

I heard this from SO MANY PEOPLE that when we had our second child, I had absolutely no confidence in the test and I refused it. I figured that -- being a protein thrower -- I'd just have the same result, and I'd just worry again.

I do hope that you'll have a good end to your story like I did. But go get tested. If you don't, you'll worry for the rest of your pregnancy, and that won't be good for you or the baby.
 
Nothing would change if he/she did have downs I am just so worried for the health of the baby. I am a little annoyed I took this test at all. I also worry long term. I have to tell myself that we have four healthy children that I hope would make sure their brother or sister would be ok after Mom and Dad are gone. Am I being too morbid? This just making me worry extra and I already worry too much about everything. Thanks for all the replies. I am starting to feel a little better. I think it was just the initial reaction to the call. I heard the number thing too which makes me feel better. My friend told me to pick a number between 1 and 150 and do it like that. Tried with my husband he never picked my number.
 
Doctors around here are no longer performing that test, and instead are doing nuchal transucency scan, because the AFP is so unreliable. A 1% risk is really, really low.
 
Been there, done that. I was 32 and pregnant with our second child. The numbers were quite similar to yours. I had an amnio the afternoon my doctor called. Those 3 weeks of waiting were SO long. I drove myself crazy reading everything I could find on the internet. The amnio showed our baby to be normal. Even with the amnio results, my mind still wouldn't quite believe he was ok until he was born. He's a happy, healthy boy now.
 
Been there, done that. I was 32 and pregnant with our second child. The numbers were quite similar to yours. I had an amnio the afternoon my doctor called. Those 3 weeks of waiting were SO long. I drove myself crazy reading everything I could find on the internet. The amnio showed our baby to be normal. Even with the amnio results, my mind still wouldn't quite believe he was ok until he was born. He's a happy, healthy boy now.

I know what you mean. I have been on the internet driving myself crazy too. I can't seem to stop! I don't know how I feel about the amnio. Is it bad does it hurt? Should I be worried about miscarriage?
 
And then I had the amnio. It wasn't pleasant, but I couldn't wait months and months with the idea that my baby might have a serious problem. It was a couple weeks 'til the results came back, but they told us with absolute certainty that she did NOT have Down Syndrome.

My daughter would strenuously argue that she had a "serious" problem. :lmao: So would her students at the preschool she works at.

First of all, focus on the positive. You have less than a 1% chance of having a child with Down syndrome. To turn that around, you have a 99% chance of everything being ok. If I had those odds for Powerball, I probably would be rich and retired right now.

Secondly, if you can't wait, insist on an amnio. That is the only way to know for 100% sure. With an amnio, you get to see the chromosomes of the baby and can readily see if there are three 21st chromosomes or not.

Third, if it does turn out that you are carrying a baby with Down syndrome, take a deep breath. With old stereotypes still abounding, it sounds horrible. But so many strides have been made in the past 10 - 15 years, that the researchers are confident they are only a few years away from a "cure" or a way to turn off the influence of that 3rd chromosome.

Make sure you get all the information you can before you make a decision. PM me and I will get you the phone number of your local Down syndrome society. Call them and get the facts. Don't rely on stereotypes and DO NOT open any book or literature that is over 5 years old. It is out of date and so depressing.

I was 28, had numerous US with my daughter and nothing was detected until after she was born. Even then, she had so few markers, we had to wait for the chromosome tests for a definitive diagnosis.

Here is a pic of my daughter (second from left) with her friends at the NCA National Cheerleading Championships in Dallas this past February. Looks like a pretty normal group of friends, doesn't it?

Life with a child with Down syndrome is way, way more normal than it is not. The child only has one set of chromosomes that are wonky. All the others, which influence everything else in their lives are perfectly normal. My daughter and her friends work, go to school (usually fully integrated), have an active social life, yap on the phone for hours, spend way too much time on facebook - all the joys and problems you experience with any kid.

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Three kids with Down syndrome in this picture. Believe me, they are just as competitive and are passionate about their sport as any athlete would be:
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Has anyone had an abnormal quad screen before. I am 32 and my quad screen came back abnormal hig risk for downs. My normal range for my age was 1 in 453 mine came back 1 in 150. I am totally freaking out and crying. What does this mean has anyone else had a similar thing happen and their baby end up normal? I guess I need som reassurance. My doctor kept reminding me that this is still less then a 1% chance. Ugh but I can't help worrying. I am 17 weeks and they scheduled my level 2 for wednesday so I guess we will know more then. I am trying to stay strong but it is so hard.
:(:sad1:
:hug: Like a PP said, that test is notoriously unreliable. I think you're probably too far along for the Nuchal Translucency test at this point, so just do your best to hang in there until your level 2 ultrasound. They'll look for markers at that point and my guess is that won't find any. I'm wishing you peace in the coming days, and good luck at the ultrasound. :hug:
 
We went through something similar w/ this baby. Our big ultrasound at 20 weeks (which is supposed to be fun!) showed a small calcification on our baby's heart. The doctor told us that it is a marker for down syndrome, but that in absence of any other markers our baby was likely fine. Of course, I freaked out anyway, especially since DD7 was in the room w/ me when I got the news and DH was not. I had to wait a whole weekend, but then got to see a perinatologist, and he and his U/S tech looked over baby really really well, and said that yes, he does have the ECF (echogenic cardiac focus) but that it was teensy and that it's the kind of thing they would normally ignore. There were no other markers for down syndrome. The peri also told me that because of my age, my risk was no more increased than a normal pregnancy. He told me he didn't need to see me again unless I had gestational diabetes or something (haven't had the joy of that test yet).

Do I still worry? Yes a little. But I've read so much about all the people who've had babies w/ down syndrome, and EVERY ONE OF THEM talks about how sweet and wonderful that child is. I know w/o a doubt that I would adore this little boy even if he had downs.

I also have a friend whose nuchal fold test came back w/ a thick measurement. She is a much bigger worrier than I (which is really saying something). She was also past the 35yo age where they increase your risk for a downs baby. Her baby was fine. He's a beautiful (and super smart) 3 yo now.

I'm sure your baby will be fine. I know it is SO hard not to worry, but try not to worry too much, that's not good for baby either. Try to focus on the good stuff. Is baby moving a lot? Has your DH felt him/her yet? :hug:
 
Nothing would change if he/she did have downs I am just so worried for the health of the baby. I am a little annoyed I took this test at all. I also worry long term. I have to tell myself that we have four healthy children that I hope would make sure their brother or sister would be ok after Mom and Dad are gone. Am I being too morbid? This just making me worry extra and I already worry too much about everything. Thanks for all the replies. I am starting to feel a little better. I think it was just the initial reaction to the call. I heard the number thing too which makes me feel better. My friend told me to pick a number between 1 and 150 and do it like that. Tried with my husband he never picked my number.

Nope, that is not being morbid at all. That is a worry and concern of all of us parents, even those without kids with Down syndrome.

But to be frank and honest, that did enter into our decision to have more kids. While we always planned to have more kids, this sealed the deal as we wanted siblings around for when we passed away. Not that we would ever command our other kids to watch over their sister (and she would not have anything of it), it is comforting to know that she has somebody to turn to after we are gone.
 
Another mom whoo has been ther, done that! I could have written Mrs Pete's story except that it was my HUSBAND who was out of town during everything. In fact he was out of the country when I got the news and did not get back until after the amnio. That child is now my perfectly healthy 8 yo daughter who, like any younger sibling, drives her older sister bonkers!

Hang in there! :grouphug:
 
I don't know how I feel about the amnio. Is it bad does it hurt? Should I be worried about miscarriage?

I had an amnio because I knew I would be stressed out for the rest of the pregnancy if I didn't know about the baby. I don't recall the amnio hurting other than the needle stick. What I do recall is I had to take our 18 month old with me because I couldn't get a sitter on such short notice. DH met us at the doctor's office but it took him longer to get there from work. The room in which I had the amnio had floor to ceiling open shelves with folders of medical records. I was so concerned that my 18 month old would start taking the folders off the shelves (he was in a stage of taking everything off shelves at home) that I was not so focused on the amnio. In hindsight, I should have asked if one of the nurses could watch DS. I was relieved when DH arrived. By this time, the amnio was done.

I was a bit worried about the risk of miscarriage from the amnio. However, I knew I was putting the baby at more risk by being stressed during the rest of the pregnancy if I didn't do it. Honestly, we had one child at that point, and I would have been so sad if I had miscarried but I knew I could probably get pregnant again. I might have thought differently if it was my first pregnancy.

After the amnio, DH took the rest of the day off to watch DS while I laid in bed perfectly still on my right side as the doctor had instructed me to do. It was a LONG three weeks until the results came back. I should have stayed off the internet but I am a "researcher" and wanted to know everything I could.

Hang in there. :grouphug:
 














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