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Earning My Ears
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If there is still 'early booking' available, is that a way to tell if the trip still has a lot of openings?
Just got off the phone with Andrea at ABD, trying to rebook our trip.
She said there are only two senior speicalists authorized to deal with, in her words, "all these trips we've just cancelled."
So ouch! I bet there's been more cancellations than those reported here.
Anyway, she could not rebook me and in fact wouldn't talk about it at all, would only give me the direct line to the other two, both of whom, natch, were on another line.
So I'm guessing that the frustration guests are feeling has come to the attention of ABD and they are trying to do some damage control. I certainly think the girl who informed me of the cancellation yesterday should not have been the one to do it.
We'll see what happens.
I am getting multiple upon multiple pm's being sent to me (per my request) from people who also share my concerns (since they are in the same position) and I am formulaing a list since out of these requests, there is one particualr individual who is wanting this from me who will in turn send this high up the chain at ABD. Can't say a whole lot more as I want to respect this one individual. [/B]
I think folks are getting a bit too upset over remote possibilities. I would also be upset if my trip were cancelled - not trying to minimize that. It is always a risk - earthquakes, social unrest, strikes, etc. too.
However, given the literally hundreds of tours offered, this isn't a lot - it sounds instead like they have paired down some trips, but are otherwise working to fill the slots.
Indeed, I was just told that at least one week's tour in Peru is "on sale" and offered rates are $200.00 less than the Early Booking rates. It is clear they are not just pulling the rug out, but instead are trying to consolidate a few trips to make more go and keep the big picture viable.
Additionally, the CS says that trip insurance COVERS you if you have to cancel due to layoff. That is NOT something they mentioned in the past.
Thus, I respectfully disagree with those posts that indicate the Disney brand is sinking fast in customer service. Things happen. A visit to WDW for a week no longer guarantees shows or fireworks every night. My last day at WDW two years ago the Tower of Terror shut down for the day due to technical difficulties. We had been saving this day to enjoy riding this multiple times - and it didn't happen. We weren't given a ticket extension, etc., but we also didn't ask. Things happen! We were disappointed, but returned to EPCOT and found a "show" in China we didn't know about and ended up having the best day of the trip.
If the number of tours offered this year doubled, and we go from 3-4 cancellations of weekly trips to 6-8, they really haven't changed anything percentage wise. If 8 trips are bumped with 20 already signed up in each, and these people reschedule, that may be enough to make "enough" for 32 additional trips to have enough to go. That's 160 people rescheduled so that
12,800 folks go on a trip of a lifetime.
Several folks posting would be very happy with a semi - private tour with few people. I do not think this is the reason most of us sign up with Disney - the people on the trip also make this a success. Folks seeking solitude generally would not be seeking out this type of a trip! I for one prefer to see a good working tour group!
I think folks need to relax, and take a breather. At the rate you are going, you won't be able to enjoy anything!
I think folks are getting a bit too upset over remote possibilities. I would also be upset if my trip were cancelled - not trying to minimize that. It is always a risk - earthquakes, social unrest, strikes, etc. too.
However, given the literally hundreds of tours offered, this isn't a lot - it sounds instead like they have paired down some trips, but are otherwise working to fill the slots.
Indeed, I was just told that at least one week's tour in Peru is "on sale" and offered rates are $200.00 less than the Early Booking rates. It is clear they are not just pulling the rug out, but instead are trying to consolidate a few trips to make more go and keep the big picture viable.
Additionally, the CS says that trip insurance COVERS you if you have to cancel due to layoff. That is NOT something they mentioned in the past.
Thus, I respectfully disagree with those posts that indicate the Disney brand is sinking fast in customer service. Things happen. A visit to WDW for a week no longer guarantees shows or fireworks every night. My last day at WDW two years ago the Tower of Terror shut down for the day due to technical difficulties. We had been saving this day to enjoy riding this multiple times - and it didn't happen. We weren't given a ticket extension, etc., but we also didn't ask. Things happen! We were disappointed, but returned to EPCOT and found a "show" in China we didn't know about and ended up having the best day of the trip.
If the number of tours offered this year doubled, and we go from 3-4 cancellations of weekly trips to 6-8, they really haven't changed anything percentage wise. If 8 trips are bumped with 20 already signed up in each, and these people reschedule, that may be enough to make "enough" for 32 additional trips to have enough to go. That's 160 people rescheduled so that
12,800 folks go on a trip of a lifetime.
Several folks posting would be very happy with a semi - private tour with few people. I do not think this is the reason most of us sign up with Disney - the people on the trip also make this a success. Folks seeking solitude generally would not be seeking out this type of a trip! I for one prefer to see a good working tour group!
I think folks need to relax, and take a breather. At the rate you are going, you won't be able to enjoy anything!
........you have seen now what a change the ABD call center reps have done in just one month. Per se, you will see in my late December 2008 posting they replied that my trip was 8 % full. Ok..eight percent..I could handle that answer. That's honesty.knewton, I appreciate that you are trying to keep tabs, but I also wanted to clarify: You've quoted me several times in the list that you refer to as "17 people." So that knocks it down a little if you are counting each quote as an individual person.
I also think it is the correct choice to limit what the individual phone reps may say to callers. I think if we want more answers, it would be better to keep going up the chain of comand until we get someone who can explain, rather than playing tricks on someone who after all is just reading from a script and has no authority.
I'm frustrated, but I'm not incensed over this. I think it's an important distinction.
JMHO
I am the person who was booked on the Discovery Down Under trip that was reported cancelled on this forum. I don't mean to minimize anyone frustration, but I don't want to be included in the group. I have had a good experience with ABD. They have answered my questions when I asked about the percentage of bookings. They were polite and helpful when my trip was cancelled and I needed to rebook. When I rebooked I told them I was interested in a trip with at least a few kids. I gave them 4 possible dates and was told the number of kids who were booked and their exact ages for each date. I'm sorry for those of you who have been disappointed, but for those of you reading these post and becoming concerned, just wanted to let you know that not everyone has had the same negative experience.
Have you done a DCL cruise before? We love them. If you want a relaxing kind of trip they are great.
....I want very badly to ALSO rebook for the September 19th 2009 Spririt of America trip that was offered to me lieu on my now canceled trip. And yes, I do want to also share in your positive opinion of ABD. I am unpholding my end of the situation here just to be left in the dark. No e-mail, no correspondence what so ever as to them notifying me of the cancelation. I had to be the one to do all the legwork here as I also unfortunately had to be labeled by some as a "bad person" here just to obtain a proper and correct answer from ABD.
This level of servicing of customer would leave anyone scratching their heads and saying,
HUH??. This level of servicing the custmer shouldn't have to come from "high up the food chain" either. It begins from when the rep says their introduction to you - the guest.
So again, I respect your opinion and wish you the best of luck on your rebooking. No ill will here.