Aaron Sorkins quote: What did you think?

[LuvCuteBoys]

I think Sorkin's comments and the assertions of the OP are 2 completely unrelated topics.

This.

I loved Sorkin's quote. However, I had no idea it was a political slam. That I don't care for so much. I hate politics at awards shows even more than I hate Ricky Gervais at awards shows.

Aspiring to greatness is a good thing. But what one person considers great, someone else might not. It's all about finding balance, figuring out what you're good at, and being the best person you can be. That's not up to everyone else to decide. You worry about you, and I'll worry about me.

What cracks me up is that the OP is upset that girls socialize too much, but the quote she loved was uttered at an AWARDS show, which is really nothing more than a great big party.

 

[Tiger926]

Let's not forget the thread about members of the Disney Mom's Panel not being attractive enough.

I didn't want to get involved, so I was waiting until someone brought this up.

This thread, just like the OP's other ones, makes my head hurt...

Tiger

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

Yep, he was referring to Sarah Palin. This is the second or third time in the past few months he has insulted her publicly. Very classy. Apparently the return to civility lasted about 1 week.

And yes, the audience obviousy knew about whom he was speaking. Their reaction was typical Hollywood hypocrisy.... it's perfectly OK to insult "certain" people, but they (Hollywood) must never, ever be the target of insults, ridicule, etc. Bravo Ricky Gervais!

My reaction was the same as the audience reaction... and I had no idea what he was referring to.

Ricky is a jerk. And certainly not very civil.

 

[luvmy3]

And to clear it up the assoication with attire and wanting to succeed clealry has gone over many heads. Ever heard of the phrase "dress to impress"? Yes they are only in HS or MS whatever it may be but how you dress is a reflection of yourself. Yes, if I'm going to the gym or grocery shopping I'm wearing sweats. Things have become "relaxed" in my eyes when it comes to even dressing. If you don't have pride in how you look, whats next? All that seems to matter to SOME teens is what phone they have. It's very rare to see a teen with a book in their hand and TO ME it's just sad to see girls this way.
AND IT ALL GOES BACK TO WANTING MORE! Or being ELITE.

I know a teen who wears mostly sweats, or more active type clothing. She is an exceptional althlete, a straight A student on the honor roll, an avid reader and she is a terrific kid all around. She happens to be physically more comfortable in what she chooses to wear, it has nothing to do with her not having any pride in herself, in fact its quite the opposite. I applaud her for being herself in the face of judgemental people such as yourself.

Maybe when you have a teen and are around them every single day, and I don't mean seeing them at the busstop, you will change your distorted view of today's teens.

 

[michellev]

And to clear it up the assoication with attire and wanting to succeed clealry has gone over many heads. Ever heard of the phrase "dress to impress"? Yes they are only in HS or MS whatever it may be but how you dress is a reflection of yourself. Yes, if I'm going to the gym or grocery shopping I'm wearing sweats. Things have become "relaxed" in my eyes when it comes to even dressing. If you don't have pride in how you look, whats next? All that seems to matter to SOME teens is what phone they have. It's very rare to see a teen with a book in their hand and TO ME it's just sad to see girls this way.
AND IT ALL GOES BACK TO WANTING MORE! Or being ELITE.

Since you are seeing these girls at the bus stop, I'm guessing they are on the way to school. What is wrong with wearing sweats to school? They are comfortable and definitely appropriate for a school setting. Sweat pants are "in" right now, they are wearing them because they have pride in their appearance, not because they don't care what they look like. They are choosing to wear designer sweats for a reason.

As for the book, just because you don't see them reading at the bus stop, it doesn't mean that they don't enjoy reading. I read on my phone - for all you know that is what they are doing as well! And really, if they would rather text than read while waiting for a school bus, who is that hurting?

I am a high school teacher. I see teen girls every day. They are bright, they are articulate and they have great expectations for their future. You should try to get to know some of these girls before you pass judgement on them based on a fleeting glimpse of their lives in the mall or at a bus stop.

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

You should try to get to know some of these girls before you pass judgement on them based on a fleeting glimpse of their lives in the mall or at a bus stop.

But where's the fun in that?!

 

[Ceila]

It's very rare to see a teen with a book in their hand and TO ME it's just sad to see girls this way.

Right, because teens would naturally read books at the mall or bus stops
They would never read in, say, at school, in their own homes, their parents' cars or anyplace like that where you wouldn't be able to see what they're doing.

Like I've posted on another thread, I honestly do think you're a troll, but if you're not, you really are a piece of work.

BTW, I work in a middle school library and see young teens (male and female) reading ALL THE TIME!! And I'm friends with many high school librarians as well, and believe me, their students (again, male and femae) read all the time, too! I know - shocking!

 

[Jennasis]

Let's not forget the thread about members of the Disney Mom's Panel not being attractive enough.

Or being angry that her SIL had the audacity to have a baby because Queenie wanted HER kid to be the ONLY PRINCESS for a while...

Or that her family is stupid for thinking Cheesecake Factory is fine dining...

And on and on. It would be terribly sad if it weren't so gosh darn entertaining. I'm stymied that the OP continues to post.

BEtween this post and the dig at the Mom's panel for not being pretty or fashionable enough for her...YEESH... Still haven't seen any photos of the Queen for US to critique.

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

Or being angry that her SIL had the audacity to have a baby because Queenie wanted HER kid to be the ONLY PRINCESS for a while...

Or that her family is stupid for thinking Cheesecake Factory is fine dining...

And on and on. It would be terribly sad if it weren't so gosh darn entertaining. I'm stymied that the OP continues to post.

BEtween this post and the dig at the Mom's panel for not being pretty or fashionable enough for her...YEESH... Still haven't seen any photos of the Queen for US to critique.

 

[punkin]

How do you people remember who starts what threads? I have a few people on the boards I am friendly with and I remember their posts, but everyone else is generally just a blur to me.

 

[pilotwife_02]

I love wearing sweat/yoga pants. Of course I'm 8 months pregnant so that's really all the fits me comfortably right now. Of course my friends are also throwing me a shower and I'm having my 3rd child, I really like Cheescake Factory too. So I must be uneducated and trashy. But at least I'm having a boy and not bringing another "princess" into this world to take the attention away from other princesses (Did I hit all the references? )

 

[redlight]

I liked the quote.

 

[MnMomtoboys]

She really needs to go back to reading those vampire books she loves so much.

 

[bluesaturn]

And to clear it up the assoication with attire and wanting to succeed clealry has gone over many heads. Ever heard of the phrase "dress to impress"? Yes they are only in HS or MS whatever it may be but how you dress is a reflection of yourself. Yes, if I'm going to the gym or grocery shopping I'm wearing sweats. Things have become "relaxed" in my eyes when it comes to even dressing. If you don't have pride in how you look, whats next? All that seems to matter to SOME teens is what phone they have. It's very rare to see a teen with a book in their hand and TO ME it's just sad to see girls this way.
AND IT ALL GOES BACK TO WANTING MORE! Or being ELITE.

How many teens do you know personally or talk to regularly? And I'm not asking about watching them at the bus stop.

 

[Queen2PrincessG]

WOW for a group that gets into an uproar about people being judgmental. No matter what I say many of you will find something wrong or some reason to dislike me. Not really sure what the issue is? You don't know me personally and yet many are you in a tizzy. It doesn't take much "investigating" to find someones older post. This post was merely a question on what someone on famous stated and yet it has been turned and twisted into a witch hunt. if you have a problem with me that fine, ignore me and my post but why spend the "energy" hating someone you will never meet or know?

 

[Queen2PrincessG]

How many teens do you know personally or talk to regularly? And I'm not asking about watching them at the bus stop.

Through family and friends 5. Three are very much on the right track, the other two are a bit questionable.

 

[sacall]

And to clear it up the assoication with attire and wanting to succeed clealry has gone over many heads. Ever heard of the phrase "dress to impress"? Yes they are only in HS or MS whatever it may be but how you dress is a reflection of yourself. Yes, if I'm going to the gym or grocery shopping I'm wearing sweats. Things have become "relaxed" in my eyes when it comes to even dressing. If you don't have pride in how you look, whats next? All that seems to matter to SOME teens is what phone they have. It's very rare to see a teen with a book in their hand and TO ME it's just sad to see girls this way.
AND IT ALL GOES BACK TO WANTING MORE! Or being ELITE.

Well, I will let my daughter know you don't approve of her wearing her yoga pants to High School. But let me give you a little info about my straight A student, who just happens to be Class President, is on the Varisty Dance Team at HS, dances six days a week and volunteers with Rotary Interact.

I should also mention that she applied for a job at the local ice shop for this coming summer. Guess what she wore on her interview - nice slacks with a nice top. Guess she can figure out what to wear when she needs to

Oh, I should probably also mention that the reason she wears yoga pants to school each day is because she has Cystic Fibrosis and for her, most days, she has a stomach problems. So, she is really more comfortable in pants that don't have a binding waistband. But don't worry, I'll let her know what you think of her

Stacy

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

You don't know me personally and yet many are you in a tizzy.

Don't you see? You don't know all these teenage girls that you're putting down, either.

We at least have the ability to see what you're saying. You're judging an entire group of people based on the small bit of interaction you have with a handful.

 

[MELSMICE]

And to clear it up the assoication with attire and wanting to succeed clealry has gone over many heads. Ever heard of the phrase "dress to impress"? Yes they are only in HS or MS whatever it may be but how you dress is a reflection of yourself. Yes, if I'm going to the gym or grocery shopping I'm wearing sweats. Things have become "relaxed" in my eyes when it comes to even dressing. If you don't have pride in how you look, whats next? All that seems to matter to SOME teens is what phone they have. It's very rare to see a teen with a book in their hand and TO ME it's just sad to see girls this way.
AND IT ALL GOES BACK TO WANTING MORE! Or being ELITE.

You would never see my DD at the mall or bus stop with a book in their hand. You certainly would see them with their phone. You might see them in jeans or you may see them in sweats. You might even see them in real crummy sweats with their hair thrown on top of their heads & no make-up on.

I can assure you that they are on the ELITE track & they want more out of life. DH & I have instilled the value of education in them & how important it is for them to be well educated so they can take care of themselves someday & not depend on anyone else. They sometimes go to their college classes in sweats!

During our 3 1/2 weeks in Florida (while sometimes wearing sweats or basketball shorts) they read numerous books for leisure. My college senior worked on her thesis, because between her 2 jobs & going to school full time she knew she she had to get a large chunk of her research done. She wears sweats a lot of times to school.....she also wants the IPhone when it comes to Verizon because that's a big thing socially at her age. Actually, they all do & have each earned the money to pay for it themselves.

They have been taught when going for job interviews how important it is to dress the part, along with being respectful & mature. They each have a job where they have earned the respect of their superiors. How they dress as teens at home, at the mall, bus stop, or even in school has no reflection of how they will be in their "professional" lives or where there future is headed.

It has to do with their character and personal pride and confidence as an individual. Clothing in the casual settings mentioned has no bearing on their futures.

 

[bluesaturn]

Through family and friends 5. Three are very much on the right track, the other two are a bit questionable.

So the majority of the few teens you know are meeting your standards for doing alright. And yet you stated that you are generally disgusted by what teens say, that they have no pride, that they don't care about the future, and that they don't read. What exactly are you basing these generalizations on?

You posted a harsh criticism about a large group of people. You can't be surprised when people call you on the fact that your statement had little foundation to stand on. You have posted a number of threads that have stirred people up. You can't expect everyone to just forget about those. If you want them toforget you would have to change your username.

Please don't act like this thread was all about the quote. Half your original post was a criticism of teenage girls. If you didn't want people to comment on that, you wouldn't have posted it.