A Girl Just Put on Deodorant in my Classroom

[IdesOmarch]

What exactly is this thing everyone is referring too? This "deodorant" Never heard of it.

 

[tlbwriter]

What did she expose? Did she rip her whole top off in order to apply the deodorant? Was she flashing her bra to the classroom?

Because I was assuming she just lifted her t-shirt a few inches and stuck her hand up underneath, in which case all she "exposed" was a bit of tummy and side. But if I'm wrong, please elaborate!

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Or that she went through the neck opening, like I do when I forget to put it on at home and have to use my office deodorant.

 

[Iheartdis]

What exactly is this thing everyone is referring too? This "deodorant" Never heard of it.

 

[jiminyC_fan]

It's deodorant for pete's sake. No that big of a deal. I'm sure she didn't reveal anything. Wouldn't you rather she use it than have to approach her because students were complaining tha she smells? She puts deo on in a classroom and you DIS while on the job. Both not the best ideas.

 

[disney junky]

It's deodorant for pete's sake. No that big of a deal. I'm sure she didn't reveal anything. Wouldn't you rather she use it than have to approach her because students were complaining tha she smells? She puts deo on in a classroom and you DIS while on the job. Both not the best ideas.

get to the back of the line. you are so late with your criticism of my being shocked and dissing at school; i got those reprimands on page 1.

she lifted her hoodie, ie, hooded sweatshirt, revealing enough of her bare midriff as to shock me. out of the corner of my eye, i saw skin; i couldn't help myself. it was an involuntary double take. my neck still hurts from turning it that fast. i may need to take a sick day. perhaps i'll file for workman's comp.

the method of application of said deodorant, i guess we will refer to that as the up under rather than the down through the neck. please. this girl is clean. she had just come from home.

we do have dirty kids. they intentionally don't bathe for days on end to intentionally offend other students with their smell. but we can't tell them they stink. that might hurt their feelings.

today i saw a female student helping a male student with his eyeliner. i thought. what a great thing to post on the disboards. but then i thought. wait. it's better that he gets help with his eyeliner than have it all smugged and smeared. so i resisted. i didn't post that.

i have two girls with nose rings. yesterday, one asked me for a tissue. i tried to resist, but i couldn't help myself. i asked, how do you blow your nose with a nose ring? doesn't that get in the way. and she replied. no, it doesn't.

i guess i just need to relax. perhaps i should drink decaf.

 

[Magpie]

get to the back of the line. you are so late with your criticism of my being shocked and dissing at school; i got those reprimands on page 1.

she lifted her hoodie, ie, hooded sweatshirt, revealing enough of her bare midriff as to shock me. out of the corner of my eye, i saw skin; i couldn't help myself. it was an involuntary double take. my neck still hurts from turning it that fast. i may need to take a sick day. perhaps i'll file for workman's comp.

the method of application of said deodorant, i guess we will refer to that as the up under rather than the down through the neck. please. this girl is clean. she had just come from home.

we do have dirty kids. they intentionally don't bathe for days on end to intentionally offend other students with their smell. but we can't tell them they stink. that might hurt their feelings.

today i saw a female student helping a male student with his eyeliner. i thought. what a great thing to post on the disboards. but then i thought. wait. it's better that he gets help with his eyeliner than have it all smugged and smeared. so i resisted. i didn't post that.

i have two girls with nose rings. yesterday, one asked me for a tissue. i tried to resist, but i couldn't help myself. i asked, how do you blow your nose with a nose ring? doesn't that get in the way. and she replied. no, it doesn't.

i guess i just need to relax. perhaps i should drink decaf.

Oh my, yes. I do think you should switch to decaf. You don't sound like you're enjoying teaching the kids very much, at the moment.

What's wrong with a girl helping a boy with his eyeliner? Or with a kid wanting to blow her nose, regardless of whether it has a ring in it? If this is all allowed in the school dress code, then what's the issue?

(Dirty kids are definitely unfortunate, but I'm guessing it's likely more of a home neglect, depression and mental health issue, than an "I like to stink" issue.)

 

[disney junky]

Oh my, yes. I do think you should switch to decaf. You don't sound like you're enjoying teaching the kids very much, at the moment.

What's wrong with a girl helping a boy with his eyeliner? Or with a kid wanting to blow her nose, regardless of whether it has a ring in it? If this is all allowed in the school dress code, then what's the issue?

(Dirty kids are definitely unfortunate, but I'm guessing it's likely more of a home neglect, depression and mental health issue, than an "I like to stink" issue.)

You are wrong. I love teaching the kids at the moment. The functional word is teaching. Are you just playing with my head? Do you truly believe that all this freedom of self expression makes the educational process function more smoothly? Trust me. The dirty kids are not poor or mentally ill. They are trying to offend their classmates intentionally. It is an act of rebellion. I didn't say there was anything wrong with a nose ring did I? I simply asked how one blows one's nose with one of those.

 

[Magpie]

You are wrong. I love teaching the kids at the moment. The functional word is teaching. Are you just playing with my head? Do you truly believe that all this freedom of self expression makes the educational process function more smoothly? Trust me. The dirty kids are not poor or mentally ill. They are trying to offend their classmates intentionally. It is an act of rebellion. I didn't say there was anything wrong with a nose ring did I? I simply asked how one blows one's nose with one of those.

Mascara and nose rings have nothing whatsoever to do with teaching. Unless it means the teacher is too distracted to actually teach the kids. Which is more the teacher's problem, than the kids'.

I'm not a teacher and I won't pretend it's the same thing at all. But I haven't had any trouble teaching the sex-ed program to kids with eyeliner and nose rings (and those ear lobe expanders, and assorted piercings, etc...), at our church. They're human beings. They learn as well or as poorly as any other human being.

Oh, and BTW, it's not hard to blow one's nose with a nose ring in. You do it the same way you do it without a nose ring. You just have to be a little more careful about wiping. Did you actually deny the kid a Kleenex or did you hand one over to her and learn how she does it by observing?

As for the "dirty kids"... I can't even respond to that, as in all the high schools I've been in, and all the high school kids I've worked with, I've never run into a worse issue than greasy hair or the occasional muddy kid, or a kid who's been wearing the same jeans for so long they could probably stand up on their own, because it's his only pair of jeans. None of that's offensive to me.

 

[dogluva]

get to the back of the line. you are so late with your criticism of my being shocked and dissing at school; i got those reprimands on page 1.

she lifted her hoodie, ie, hooded sweatshirt, revealing enough of her bare midriff as to shock me. out of the corner of my eye, i saw skin; i couldn't help myself. it was an involuntary double take. my neck still hurts from turning it that fast. i may need to take a sick day. perhaps i'll file for workman's comp.

the method of application of said deodorant, i guess we will refer to that as the up under rather than the down through the neck. please. this girl is clean. she had just come from home.

we do have dirty kids. they intentionally don't bathe for days on end to intentionally offend other students with their smell. but we can't tell them they stink. that might hurt their feelings.

today i saw a female student helping a male student with his eyeliner. i thought. what a great thing to post on the disboards. but then i thought. wait. it's better that he gets help with his eyeliner than have it all smugged and smeared. so i resisted. i didn't post that.

i have two girls with nose rings. yesterday, one asked me for a tissue. i tried to resist, but i couldn't help myself. i asked, how do you blow your nose with a nose ring? doesn't that get in the way. and she replied. no, it doesn't.

i guess i just need to relax. perhaps i should drink decaf.

I, too, think that putting on deodorant in class is not appropriate. I don't mind that you dis at work (I don't and I am a teacher but I know that it is something you can do and still be a good teacher). However, I can't get passed the no capitals at the beginning of the sentence thing. That is all, everything else you have said is spot on.

 

[dogluva]

Oh my, yes. I do think you should switch to decaf. You don't sound like you're enjoying teaching the kids very much, at the moment.

What's wrong with a girl helping a boy with his eyeliner? Or with a kid wanting to blow her nose, regardless of whether it has a ring in it? If this is all allowed in the school dress code, then what's the issue?

(Dirty kids are definitely unfortunate, but I'm guessing it's likely more of a home neglect, depression and mental health issue, than an "I like to stink" issue.)

I think he is just a little SHOCKED-as he should be.

 

[dogluva]

You are wrong. I love teaching the kids at the moment. The functional word is teaching. Are you just playing with my head? Do you truly believe that all this freedom of self expression makes the educational process function more smoothly? Trust me. The dirty kids are not poor or mentally ill. They are trying to offend their classmates intentionally. It is an act of rebellion. I didn't say there was anything wrong with a nose ring did I? I simply asked how one blows one's nose with one of those.

You are not going to win. You could have said the girl took off all her clothes and you would have still been torn apart for dissing at work. Certain posters do not like teachers. It is one of those professions everyone loves to hate. There is nothing you can say to defend yourself. You are still going to be accussed of hating kids, having no patience, and overall "stink" at what you do (deodorant or no deodorant). I have been teaching 19 years and I have yet to get used to it myself.

 

[dogluva]

Mascara and nose rings have nothing whatsoever to do with teaching. Unless it means the teacher is too distracted to actually teach the kids. Which is more the teacher's problem, than the kids'.

I'm not a teacher and I won't pretend it's the same thing at all. But I haven't had any trouble teaching the sex-ed program to kids with eyeliner and nose rings (and those ear lobe expanders, and assorted piercings, etc...), at our church. They're human beings. They learn as well or as poorly as any other human being.

Oh, and BTW, it's not hard to blow one's nose with a nose ring in. You do it the same way you do it without a nose ring. You just have to be a little more careful about wiping. Did you actually deny the kid a Kleenex or did you hand one over to her and learn how she does it by observing?

As for the "dirty kids"... I can't even respond to that, as in all the high schools I've been in, and all the high school kids I've worked with, I've never run into a worse issue than greasy hair or the occasional muddy kid, or a kid who's been wearing the same jeans for so long they could probably stand up on their own, because it's his only pair of jeans. None of that's offensive to me.

Wow. They should really give you sainthood. Teachers are allowed to vent and be shocked. And if they do, they can still be good teachers. You said you are not one so, really, what makes you think you know everything? Working at a church and a high school are very different things. Stay a week at one and you will be amazed at what you see and what will actually offend you.

 

[Magpie]

Wow. They should really give you sainthood. Teachers are allowed to vent and be shocked. And if they do, they can still be good teachers. You said you are not one so, really, what makes you think you know everything? Working at a church and a high school are very different things. Stay a week at one and you will be amazed at what you see and what will actually offend you.

Actually, I DON"T think I know everything. I respect teachers highly and think it's a very difficult profession. And I don't care at all about the dissing at work thing.

I'm also not easily offended. Especially not by nose rings or mascara. However, if the OP is, he might be happier working at school with a dress code.

 

[NookOfTheNorth]

I teach high school. And earlier this year, I walked into my room to find one of my students using my deodorant. Yes, I keep deodorant in my top right desk drawer (where I also keep my lip gloss and balm, gum/mints, hand lotion) because sometimes the heat in my school can be quite whacky.

I'd also like to note that my 1st class is in the room without me because I have locker supervision, not because I am slacking. Anyway, I came into my room after the bell and found the girl sitting at my desk putting on my deodorant...I good-naturedly teased her and then proceeded to give her the deodorant as her very own.

So, what is the protocol for using another person's deodorant?

 

[SookieStackhouse]

So, what is the protocol for using another person's deodorant?

If it is spray on, maybe in a desperate situation, anything else... well I surely wouldn't borrow/loan.

 

[ctinct]

I, too, think that putting on deodorant in class is not appropriate. I don't mind that you dis at work (I don't and I am a teacher but I know that it is something you can do and still be a good teacher). However, I can't get passed the no capitals at the beginning of the sentence thing. That is all, everything else you have said is spot on.

I think he was just typing quickly. I don't have a problem with his punctuation because I can see by his other posts that he does know how to punctuate, and his sentences are well crafted with coherent thoughts. It's a message board, so I generally would not post a criticism of someone's post. Heaven knows I have made my share of errors here. Since you have criticized the poster, however, I would just like to point out that your post has an error. (Wrong word choice).

 

[tlbwriter]

So it sounds like maybe the issue isn't that she put on deodorant, but that she flashed too much skin while doing it?

 

[dogluva]

I teach high school. And earlier this year, I walked into my room to find one of my students using my deodorant. Yes, I keep deodorant in my top right desk drawer (where I also keep my lip gloss and balm, gum/mints, hand lotion) because sometimes the heat in my school can be quite whacky.

I'd also like to note that my 1st class is in the room without me because I have locker supervision, not because I am slacking. Anyway, I came into my room after the bell and found the girl sitting at my desk putting on my deodorant...I good-naturedly teased her and then proceeded to give her the deodorant as her very own.

So, what is the protocol for using another person's deodorant?

Eh, pretty gross and crossing the line. I would have been mad. Kids should not go through a teacher's desk bottom line. She should have asked first. Where does it end? I find some kids have great manners, some, not so much.

 

[dogluva]

I think he was just typing quickly. I don't have a problem with his punctuation because I can see by his other posts that he does know how to punctuate, and his sentences are well crafted with coherent thoughts. It's a message board, so I generally would not post a criticism of someone's post. Heaven knows I have made my share of errors here. Since you have criticized the poster, however, I would just like to point out that your post has an error. (Wrong word choice).

Probably. I am not offended. I admit to being the worst speller in my building. Oh well. I was actually just kidding. It really didn't bother me, I wasn't really criticizing, just lightening, or trying to, the mood.

 

[palavra]

At my school, students aren't allowed to do any sort of personal grooming in the classroom. This rule has nothing to do the actual deodorant, makeup or hairbrushes. We have this rule simply because grooming is a distraction in the classroom. If a student suddenly realizes that he or she really needs to put deodorant on, that student is welcome to ask to visit the restroom.