a family of eight who hates forced 18% tip

[DarthKTrava]

well said I am in the service industry and I think I won't say anymore for fear that I may offend people.

I work in the service industry too (fast food) and I've seen more messes from supposedly grown adults than children.... But then I've also seen families who let their kids run around like a herd of something from the untrained version of a zoo.... Obviously it's too much for some parents to discipline their children and teach them how to act in public. Running around, screaming your head off and seeing what you can destroy is NOT PUBLIC MANNERS. I don't mind dealing with kids, just not someone's out of control brats that they won't control.

 

[DarthKTrava]

So it is not about the tips anymore? or it is really about the "bad" service?

They go hand-in-hand, IMO. If you give bad service, expect a bad tip. If you do really good service, then you should be tipped accordingly.

 

[ExPirateShopGirl]

They go hand-in-hand, IMO. If you give bad service, expect a bad tip. If you do really good service, then you should be tipped accordingly.

Keyword: SHOULD

Enough said.

 

[Luigi's Girl]

15%? for New Jersey? Most people I know tip 20%. 15% is not an "Exceptional" tip.

What's the National Average and please supply a link to your source.
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You could read it that way, however what I meant was We leave a larger tip like many have said as well, for exceptional service.
It's 15% where I live (minimum). ...
I didn't mean we leave an exceptional tip of 15%. Sorry for the wording in my sentence.
We also don't live in north NJ, we're in South NJ- big difference if you ask me being nearer NY.
Anyhow, yes most tips range between 15%-20% 15% being what an national average service would recieve.http://msms.essortment.com/propertippinge_rmuv.htm

http://www.fodors.com/features/nfdisplay1.cfm?name=stt/010124_stt_tg_usa.cfm

http://www.bremercommunications.com/Tipping.htm

http://www.preferredconsumer.com/food_drink/articles/tipping_basics.html

http://ezinearticles.com/?Tipping-and-Etiquette-in-the-United-States&id=505658
(I put my money where my mouth is.)
Tipping is most often associated with dining out and for most people, it's something that's done without much thought. It has long been customary to leave a tip of 15%-20% of the total bill, with higher amounts reserved from exceptional service. What many people don't realize, however, is that tips should be calculated before any adjustments are made for coupons and other discounts. You should also consider leaving a larger tip if your party consists of 8 people or more.

There are two notable exceptions to the 15%-20% guideline. The first is when you are dining at a buffet. In this case, the service is typically limited to providing drinks and clearing away dirty dishes and so 10% is typically acceptable. The second is for room service. Again, 10%-15% is generally considered to be acceptable in this case - just be sure that a gratuity hasn't already been added to your bill.

I'm from Central New Jersey and I would never have thought whether your from the northern or southern part of the state that the tipping percentage should be different. We always tip 20% in WDW (and at home) on the total amount of the bill after the tax has been added in, even at the buffets. If the service is not so great, then we would leave 15%. We don't mind when 18% is added in for 8 or more because we would automatically assume we would be giving 20% anyway. If our service was not so great in this case, then all the server would get is the 18%.