A Big part of the Big Problem... Staffing

[RamblingMad]

I don't understand the connection?

You don't start a union if everything is good.

 

[gharter]

You don't start a union if everything is good.

happens all the time in business. Doesn't matter if things are good or bad, but more common if bad.

 

[4Ds4Diz]

Part of the problem is the job pool requires higher pay but they aren’t any better for it.

For example, I own a retail gift shop in a large tourism destination. Three years ago I was paying ~$10/hr for starting employees. Now, I’m paying no less than $15/hr for new hires and some of my longer term employees I’m paying upwards of $17-$18/hr. These new employees I’m paying $15/hr for aren’t better than the ones I was paying $10 just a few years ago. I’m getting no more service or personality or skills out of them yet I still have to pay them 50% more than I was paying just three years ago.

So I’ve hired less than I usually hire with to mitigate costs that way. I’m also quicker to fire and cut them. I have no patience for crappy workers if I’m getting the same level of employee at a higher rate.

This is why forced minimum wage, whether state wide or nationally, just drives prices up. This basic economics is and will always be lost on some.

 

[New Mouse]

This is why forced minimum wage, whether state wide or nationally, just drives prices up. This basic economics is and will always be lost on some.

Unwillingness to forgo record profits and growth is what drives the prices up, the cost of the labor is only a product of that concept. If Disney were content with say a billion dollar profit they could easily raise wages and have 0 issues with staffing. Let's not lose sight of the real issue.

 

[Jrb1979]

The company I work for, their CEO had it right. Pay your employees well and treat them well and they will want to work for you. They do all of that and some how they have record profits each year and their stock is one of the better ones in the retail sector.

 

[4Ds4Diz]

Unwillingness to forgo record profits and growth is what drives the prices up, the cost of the labor is only a product of that concept. If Disney were content with say a billion dollar profit they could easily raise wages and have 0 issues with staffing. Let's not lose sight of the real issue.

Whether its Disney, McDonalds or your local restaurant, forced minimum wage increases force price increases. Making $15 an hour for your income is also heavily effected by region. New York verses Kansas. Disney could cut profits and pay employees more for sure! I get your corporate greed point, but all businesses will raise prices or cut staff when forced to increase minimum wages. That's all I am stating.

 

[Moliphino]

Whether its Disney, McDonalds or your local restaurant, forced minimum wage increases force price increases. Making $15 an hour for your income is also heavily effected by region. New York verses Kansas. Disney could cut profits and pay employees more for sure! I get your corporate greed point, but all businesses will raise prices or cut staff when forced to increase minimum wages. That's all I am stating.

They're going to raise prices regardless.

 

[4Ds4Diz]

They're going to raise prices regardless.

There is no arguing that!

 

[Jrb1979]

Whether its Disney, McDonalds or your local restaurant, forced minimum wage increases force price increases. Making $15 an hour for your income is also heavily effected by region. New York verses Kansas. Disney could cut profits and pay employees more for sure! I get your corporate greed point, but all businesses will raise prices or cut staff when forced to increase minimum wages. That's all I am stating.

It's not just cause I work there but if want to see how companies can work with paying their employees well look at Costco.

 

[New Mouse]

Whether its Disney, McDonalds or your local restaurant, forced minimum wage increases force price increases. Making $15 an hour for your income is also heavily effected by region. New York verses Kansas. Disney could cut profits and pay employees more for sure! I get your corporate greed point, but all businesses will raise prices or cut staff when forced to increase minimum wages. That's all I am stating.

All corporations. Not all businesses.

 

[4Ds4Diz]

All corporations. Not all businesses.

I think smaller business owners might disagree. They don't have the same profit margins. Some would probably have increases just to stay afloat. The prices of goods will go up, driving the need to increase prices. But that can be another discussion.

 

[RamblingMad]

They're going to raise prices regardless.

Disney has been raising prices faster than inflation for a very, very long time. No reason they can't pass some of that profit onto their employees.

 

[mom2rtk]

Disney has been raising prices faster than inflation for a very, very long time. No reason they can't pass some of that profit onto their employees.

Other than the fact that they won’t?

 

[RamblingMad]

Other than the fact that they won’t?

That's another reason why they have unions, so that they can collectively bargain for more money.

 

[New Mouse]

That's another reason why they have unions, so that they can collectively bargain for more money.

The Disney unions are extremely soft and predominatly exist to provide money to the top of the union structure.

 

[mom2rtk]

That's another reason why they have unions, so that they can collectively bargain for more money.

How has that worked so far?

 

[RamblingMad]

The Disney unions are extremely soft and predominatly exist to provide money to the top of the union structure.

Blame 80s legislation. Rich people don't like poor people making them less rich.

 

[New Mouse]

Blame 80s legislation. Rich people don't like poor people making them less rich.

In this case it's the people in charge of the union.

 

[MassJester]

The Disney unions are extremely soft and predominatly exist to provide money to the top of the union structure.

The DW unions include the Teamsters and SEIU. I'm not sure you can call them soft.

 

[New Mouse]

The DW unions include the Teamsters and SEIU. I'm not sure you can call them soft.

You can at WDW. Some of the weakest negotiators I've ever seen. The fact pay was so low for so long says all you need to know about how successful they were.