A BAD situation...What would you do

if your mom is always like that why would you take her, ler her at home, i take my mom on vacation but believe me we leave my daddy right at home, we cannot have him ruin out trip
 
Definitely go on your own without her.

Obviously she is a troubled, unhappy person and you might want to spend some time in counseling as suggested trying to figure out why you still feel you must try to please her. My best friend dealt with this exact same situation her entire life until her mother's recent death and it was many years until she could emotionally pull away enough to say to herself "I love her but I don't like her." Then she could see her at holidays as necessary, help when she needed hospitalization and grieve when she died.

My own in-laws became impossible to deal with as they grew older. We would spend hours selecting gifts for them only to have them opened and handed back to us immediately with the words "We'll never use that; just take it back!" Since my DH is an only child it really hurt him and eventually we just stopped giving gifts entirely other than restaurant GCs since they ate out with their friends alot. They are now gone and we miss them!

People like your Mom and others are unhappy for many reasons and it may help for you to try to figure out why she is so mean and short-tempered. Sometimes people have a pattern of interaction with others and don't know how to break out of it. So a break from you for a while may be the thing to shake her up a bit. Don't let the break become too long though. Make some small overture; whatever you can handle. Perhaps bring her a small WDW souvenir that you know she would enjoy or if this would still be a point of contention just choose neutral ground and go for it.

And if you can, try to keep things neutral when you talk about her with your DH. He is involved but she is your mother and you two must first work things out.

And last of all, I guess I say this because I am probably the age of your mother (DID I REALLY ADMIT THAT?) Find a way to get back together with your Mom. Things happen. People fight; hold grudges and find reasons to stay apart. But nothing matters more than family! I have only my Mom left and each day is so dear to me.

Good luck!
 
You poor dear. Take it from this old woman that it is, indeed, possible to love someone while not necessarily liking them or their actions. Your mom sounds like a very disturbed person and she is taking it out on a 'safe' person, the daughter who is doing her best to be 'perfect'.

For the sake of your sanity and your marriage you must remove yourself from some of this and you might find that you mom will see you in a new light and possibly attempt to gain YOUR respect for a change.

I live on the other side of this equation. It is not so much mothers/daughter's etc. as it is people. Some people are nicer or less troubled than others.

When you love someone

Blessings upon you and yours and have a wonderful trip. As they say "Living well is the best revenge" - not that revenge is what you are seeking. :grouphug:



Slightly Goofy
 
i feel so bad for you. your post almost made me cry. I too, do not have in ideal friendship/relationship with my mother like i see others have. i so want one. (admittedly, my mom is no where near what you described - but she is often cold, judging, immature and defensive.)

i admit that you have no choice now but to salvage your vacation with your closest friend (your DH) but i do hope that you once again (as i am sure you regularly have to do in your mother/daugher relationship) take the moral high ground and try to make peace with her. perhaps after some passing of time she can listen to reason that it was simply a billing mistake on the part of WDW reservations.

good luck and you are not alone (or wrong)
 

I agree with the other posters. You are now an adult so it is up to you to decide whether or not you want to let her and her "nasty demeanor" ruin your trip.

I'm not saying to not respect her as your mother but rather not let her manipulate you.

It was an honest mistake and one that can be easily fixed. If she is not capable of handling such a minor problem without freaking out then she is definately NOT vacation material...where the little things that could possibly go wrong will send her into a full blown temper tantrum.

My ILs are like that and I REFUSE to go on vacation with them. If we took them with us then they would bring us down with their constant negativity.

I would treat her with kindness but not invite her along on any vacations. And definately not touch her cc again. I would also sort of distance myself from her. Unless she lives with you I would cut the visits down to a minimum and the phone calls down to a simple "thinking about you, hope all is well".

Good Luck! And try not to let her negativity weigh you down. Your going to the HAPPIEST place on EARTH!!!! :cool1:
 
goofie4goofy said:
It is so nice to know I am not alone. Thanks for all your words of widsom.

My DH and I have thought for some time that she may have emotional problems. She has some kind of superiority complex and also feels she is entitled to all things. My Dad used to keep her under control, but since he passed away it has been a free for all. I just had another conversation with her in which she told me that she really does not want to go and never did because this is the time my DH and I should enjoy and we don't need a 70 year old dragging around after us. Then she brought up another CC mistake from 3 years ago from a dinner at Emeril's at Universal, in which the waiter messed up. She was then back to the CC charge and she said that whe has to pay interest on it, after she told me she paid it in full. :confused3 So that started another go around with her screaming at me saying You are definately not detective material, believe me I have worked with them for 25 years and you are really stupid. What! First of all I am not a detective. Then she started telling me how she is not feeling well and sat down and clutched her chest...no I am not kidding.

GFG, I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this. It just infuriates me when good people are so abused. A termagent parent is the hardest thing to have to cope with, isn't it? I think that, and this is just my opinion, your mother has been spoiled and catered to and so she continues to expect your aboveboard sacrifices because (and I'm not saying this to be unkind-you did what any wonderful daughter would do) she's conditioned to expect them. And why? Does she deserve them? No. She does nothing to thank you and treats you with derision. I was thinking about this situation and if it happened in my family. My mom would pay for it and not let me pay her back, because that's what moms usually do. If a mom couldn't afford to pay for both, then most moms would just have her child pay her back by paying for meals or some such. It would all come out in the wash.

Your mom is not behaving in a way that generates respect and it sounds as though you need to make a break from her and her manipulation. You're very lucky that your DH is so supportive, but you need to focus on each other, as other posters have said. Take the time and invest it where it will be most useful, on your marriage. Your husband will be with you every day for the rest of your life, and he needs this energy much more than your selfish mother.
 
goofie4goofy said:
Last month my DH and I decided to take my Mom to WDW in Dec. It is to celebrate his birthday and her retirement. My mom insisted on paying for her own room and gave me her CC to do so. I booked 2 rooms, 1 on my CC the other on hers. Her CC bill came and apparently WDW made a mistake and put both room reservations on her card.

The problem comes in here:

In a nasty tone she tell me we have to talk. She shows me her CC bill with 2 charges on it. She tells me that she already called the CC company and the charges were made the same time (duh!) and what am I going to do about it. I had just walked in and her tone shocked me. I said I would call WDW and straighten it out and she says to me what about the money, I'm paying interest on this. She was so rude and nasty (as she always is) and treated me as if I was trying to steal from her. My husband then walks in and she started in with him telling him how impossible I am....well that was it! Now my DH does not want to go with her, and he told her so. He feels that we should not be spoken to that way. Her response was - Good I didn't want to go anyway. Nice huh! I did not even get to offer her a check for the amount.

My DH and I take her out for upscale dinners, Limo shopping trips to Manhattan, I drive her everywhere (does not drive) take her on expensive vacations (where we pay all). We were going to pay for everything for her on this trip too (except the room..which she insised on paying for), I have ADR's for all the great restaurants including V&A's. We have always been more than generous to a person who I now realize does not deserve it.My DH always treates her with kindness and respect...then with this he just will not take her garbage anymore. We would never take anything from my mother, It was a mistake made by WDW. We are just so hurt that she would think this way, and react in such a manner. She does have a nasty demeanor about her at all times, but this time it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

A part of me will feel guilty going without her but I refuse to be stuck in the middle of my DH and my Mom. My DH and I always stick together and never take sides againt one another.

What would you do in a sticky situation like this?

I have a mother just like her (actually alot worse) - drop her like a hot potato and go have a good time!! :teeth: Hopefully she will learn.
 
goofie4goofy said:
What would you do in a sticky situation like this?

Since you asked my opinion, I'm happy to give it, since I'm an expert in what my opinion is. :rotfl:

I'd leave Mom at home. And I'd probably quit showering her with extravagances, too. My parents are my parents and I love them and respect them, but we have boundaries, too. And if I ever have to choose between my unreasonable mother and honoring my wife, I'm choosing my wife every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

And I don't have a duty to treat my parents to luxuries, and I certainly wouldn't do it if my mother did not come to me respectfully about a problem. So the shopping sprees and such-like would end, too.
 
*Sigh* Family relationships are so complicated, aren't they? I empathize with your situation and agree with other posters that this vacation should be spent with you and your DH and filled with love and laughter, not tears and accusations.

I thought about Miss Manners when I read about your mother's behavior. It is Miss Manners, I believe, who has noted with some surprise and much disappointment that family members are often under the mistaken belief that it's acceptable to treat your family with less regard than you would treat a complete stranger, that your public face is not needed at home where you are free to "be yourself." She notes, however, that "being yourself" does not mean disregarding others' feelings/needs or behaving badly, and calls for us to treat our loved ones with the same courtesy we would treat anyone else.

It's strange, isn't it, that the reactions to behaviors we wouldn't condone in other people--the kind of behavior that would merit their elimination from our dance cards, so to speak--we don't apply to our families. We offer apologies and rationales for our family members' behaviors, all the while seeking approval from those who wield their love like a weapon. And the damage is does to us, and to our other relationships, is immeasurable. Although we're told that family relationships are integral to our development as loving, ethical individuals--and I believe they are--one of the effects of such cultural beliefs is that it makes it much harder to determine how to interact with family members who are (self)destructive. Do we maintain contact with these people and, if so, what kind of contact?

Obviously I, too, struggle with this question. It's a lifelong struggle. I have come to the understanding that I cannot change my parents' behavior toward me, my DH, or even to each other. And I admittedly find it difficult to change my behavior toward them when I'm in their physical presence; for some reason I return to my sulky 9 year-old self in their company. (Why, oh why, can I find this fountain of youth in other parts of my life??? :) ) So my solution has been to limit my contact with them. I keep lines of communication open--mostly through emails and postcards, where the communication is one-directional, where I can walk away from the biting remarks and choose not to respond to them. It keeps me calmer, healthier, and less depressed, although I still experience the cultural guilt that goes along with this decision. Still, as you suggest in your post, sometimes you need to make such choices.

So, I whole-heartedly agree: Go to WDW with DH, enjoy your trip and possibly a new way of interacting with your mother. This trip can be a watershed moment and mark your "line in the sand," the limits to what you will accept from your mother. Going without her--and calmly stating why--makes it clear you aren't willing to jeopardize your trip or, more importantly your relationship with your DH and your own sense of self. You can send her postcards and buy her a memento, leaving the door open to the possibility of reconciliation, but I believe bringing her along would be detrimental. After all, you deserve to be treated with consideration and respect.

Good luck with your decisions. My thoughts are with you.
 
Sounds like to me your dear Mother needs a wake up call!!! To read all of the selfless things you do for her, and she doesn't seem to appreciate any of it. Maybe a few times you don't include her, she will get the picture. If it was me, I would be sure to express how she hurt you and your DH, and that your truly sorry she assumed that you would do something like that intentionally. I am so sure WDW can fix the error. The last time I checked WE ALL make mistakes!!!!

You and your DH sound like wonderful peolpe, and I would say, you deserve to feel the MAGIC with out the wicked-witch!!!!! Whom, I don't think an entire ocean of pixie dust could help her. DON'T WASTE THE DUST or the MAGIC!!!

If she did go with you I think it would be a disaster waiting to happen, someone so miserable around so many happy people!!!

I hope you have a magical time in Dec. with your prince charming!!!!!
 
goofie4goofy said:
Last month my DH and I decided to take my Mom to WDW in Dec. It is to celebrate his birthday and her retirement. My mom insisted on paying for her own room and gave me her CC to do so. I booked 2 rooms, 1 on my CC the other on hers. Her CC bill came and apparently WDW made a mistake and put both room reservations on her card.

The problem comes in here:

In a nasty tone she tell me we have to talk. She shows me her CC bill with 2 charges on it. She tells me that she already called the CC company and the charges were made the same time (duh!) and what am I going to do about it. I had just walked in and her tone shocked me. I said I would call WDW and straighten it out and she says to me what about the money, I'm paying interest on this. She was so rude and nasty (as she always is) and treated me as if I was trying to steal from her. My husband then walks in and she started in with him telling him how impossible I am....well that was it! Now my DH does not want to go with her, and he told her so. He feels that we should not be spoken to that way. Her response was - Good I didn't want to go anyway. Nice huh! I did not even get to offer her a check for the amount.

My DH and I take her out for upscale dinners, Limo shopping trips to Manhattan, I drive her everywhere (does not drive) take her on expensive vacations (where we pay all). We were going to pay for everything for her on this trip too (except the room..which she insised on paying for), I have ADR's for all the great restaurants including V&A's. We have always been more than generous to a person who I now realize does not deserve it.My DH always treates her with kindness and respect...then with this he just will not take her garbage anymore. We would never take anything from my mother, It was a mistake made by WDW. We are just so hurt that she would think this way, and react in such a manner. She does have a nasty demeanor about her at all times, but this time it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

A part of me will feel guilty going without her but I refuse to be stuck in the middle of my DH and my Mom. My DH and I always stick together and never take sides againt one another.

What would you do in a sticky situation like this?
We brought my parents before. I don't know if she feels lost at WDW if we aren't there to show her around or what.We layed the ground rules before we left.We wanted to go on our own a few days of the trip.The day came and she had a huge attitude.We told my 3yo to go kiss nana before we left and she snubbed her.*** was that. I guess it comes with old age.If I get like that,please,put me out of my misery.
 
Oh my, I feel so sorry for you!! I have a similar type mother so I know that pain you are feeling.

WDW is my favorite place on earth yet on my one AND ONLY trip to WDW with my mother (I surprised her with a Christmas trip) I ended up calling Dh (BF at the time) and bawling for almost an hour on a pay phone from Epcot. My mother was yelling at me right there in front of the fountain because she was sick of seeing so many little Mickey eyes staring at her. WHAT?!?!?!?

I say go without her. I know the pain of the guilt placed on me from my mother, and even though I feel it and it does bother me I know that I am not deserving of it. Neither are you!! You go and have a great time. Let sit at home and think about her actions.
 
Your post did make me cry. I feel for you and hope you have a magical trip with your DH.

But, I do feel the need to give you my honest opinion about your relationship with your mom. She does seem very unhappy and troubled, counseling for all of you might help. But the one thing I would like you to think about is that no matter how crazy she is , she is still your mom. Both my parents are gone, and I would give anything in the world to have either of them back for just one day even if it meant they were totaly crazy for that time. You only have one set of parents, and no we are not rugs for them to wipe thier feet on, we are thier children and they are "entiltled ?" to a little more understanding then we would give other folks (imho). You dont mention if she was always like this or only in the later years of her life. Its tuff when you try to be a good daughter and you feel like its not appreciated or even noticed. Maybe she is dealing with the loss of your dad, or health problems.

I too would go without her, but I would talk to her about it and explain why we are going to leave her home.

I hope you have a great trip, my thoughts are with you .
 
I also would leave her at home. I would also go ahead and write her a check for your room that was charged (and not say anything, just give it to her and walk off). Then she can deal with her credit card company and Disney about not paying her part of the bill and cancelling her ressies.

I am sorry that your mother responded in this way. I have known people who do the same and it hurts. All you wanted was to give her something special. Go and have a good time and forget about how she treated you for a few days.
 
For a minute there, I thought you had to be my long-lost sister--since you were describing my mother :confused3

The problem here is hers, not yours. I am so glad to hear that you and your DH do not allow this to come between you.

As one of the other posters mentioned, the best thing you can do is to give yourself permisiion to stop trying to please your mother. The NEXT best thing is to take that trip with your DH and enjoy every moment.

Methinks you'll have a better time anyway.

Sending prayers and pixiedust your way pixiedust:
 
goofie4goofy said:
It is so nice to know I am not alone. Thanks for all your words of widsom.

My DH and I have thought for some time that she may have emotional problems. She has some kind of superiority complex and also feels she is entitled to all things. My Dad used to keep her under control, but since he passed away it has been a free for all. I just had another conversation with her in which she told me that she really does not want to go and never did because this is the time my DH and I should enjoy and we don't need a 70 year old dragging around after us. Then she brought up another CC mistake from 3 years ago from a dinner at Emeril's at Universal, in which the waiter messed up. She was then back to the CC charge and she said that whe has to pay interest on it, after she told me she paid it in full. :confused3 So that started another go around with her screaming at me saying You are definately not detective material, believe me I have worked with them for 25 years and you are really stupid. What! First of all I am not a detective. Then she started telling me how she is not feeling well and sat down and clutched her chest...no I am not kidding.


If you were me, this is how that conversation would have ended...

"Kiss my butt and ride your bike whereever you have to go!"

And I used my 100th post to write this, so you know I mean it.

"Yeah, right, like I would really say butt." :furious:
 
I am so overwhelmed at the amount of caring responses :grouphug: Thank all you so much.

I am leaving her alone for now. To be honest, my mother and I were never close. We are total opposites. She never really bothered with me much until my Dad got ill and passed away. My father did everything for her....cook, clean, shop, pay bills, drive her everywhere. She was very dependant on him. I do things for her because I love her, not because I like her. She was always mean spirited and sarcastic, but now more so. She never affected me, somehow I always have a strong sense of myself. I never feel that I have to win her affection. I guess I always thought that if she approved of me, I would be like her....that's not going to happen. She had her life being obsessed with my Dad and I had mine actually living. Now that my Dad is gone, she has no life because she was so dependant on him for 43 years. I have tried to get her to counseling, but she refused many times.

This episode kind of upsets me because it is disturbing to see a person behave this way. I guess I feel more sadness for her than anything -her grief has turned to extreme bitterness and anger. She has a big beautiful house, tons of money, a family that cares......and yet she has nothing.

My DH and I are going to go anyway. It's his B'Day and he loved it so much last year. My DH comes first. I will still take care of her and do what needs to be done. Unfortunately I will never feel any kind of closeness to her anymore due to one of her recent rantings. She told me that my father said to her as he way dying that "I feel so sorry that I am leaving you with her." I never believed it, my Dad and I were very close. It just shows me that I can only learn to be civil to her. Because of that comment I literally felt the love for her leave my soul.

Lesson learned: I did invited her because I felt guilty that we have fun and she doesn't anymore. I thought it would be something for her to look forward to. Don't do things out of guilt.
 
Mom needs to stay home, and not just because of her behavior! If I invited my mom on a trip where we were celebrating my DH's birthday, I think he might shoot me. I can't say that he'd be wrong on that either. It might be a good time to take all that time and energy you've poured into mom and start pouring it to DH.

JMHO
 


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