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[ralphd]

Hope they learned a lesson from Eastern Airlines! The pilots and mechanics 'successfully' put them out of business.
However, Miami, New York, Charlotte and Atlanta (hubs) did survive.

 

[Disneyjosh229]

They should take a look at what happened to Northwest's mechanics. It's been about 3 months now, right? They are out of work and the airline is still flying.

Exactly. And right now, airline mechanics are hard to come by!

 

[huskies90]

This is the latest from today's news. For those of us flying in the next few weeks, I have to think this is a good sign:

U.S. Bankruptcy Court Judge Prudence Carter Beatty could decide immediately on the company's request to void the pilot contract, although its considered likely that she will give the sides up to 30 more days to reach an agreement before deciding on her own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051116...n0Or7sF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

 

[goofy4tink]

Just let them hold on until Tuesday, Nov 29th....I have to get that cat to Orlando. I don't have a lot of options since I'm flying with her. Flying JetBlue home though.

 

[BeccaGrace]

This is the latest from today's news. For those of us flying in the next few weeks, I have to think this is a good sign:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051116...n0Or7sF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

This is my mantra right now...we have 14 days until we leave. Don't you hate when you have done everything you can to plan a trip only to have something totally out of your control happen that might jeopardize it

The worst part is I was hoping my dh wasn't watching the news at all and wouldn't realize what was happening (he's a doom and gloomer) but he just asked me what airline we were flying and knows what is going on. So on top of my own nerves I have him telling me they are going under and we are going to have to cancel...fun!

I know hindsight is 20/20 but if I had just known Jet Blue was coming to Newark I never would have flown on Song out of JFK Sorry for my vent--hopefully we will all end up happily in Disney and this stress will be long from our minds in a few weeks!

 

[cruise-o-matic]

Arghhh....this is driving me crazy. We have R/T Delta flights on 12/9 & 12/13.

Does it make any difference that these are with a "codeshare partner", ie Chataqua or ComAir? Are those pilots under the Delta contract?

What should I do? Sit tight and maybe try to snag tix from Orbitz, Expedia, etc at the last minute? Go ahead and get SW tix out of RDU...if so, can I cancel for a credit?

 

[Tinkim]

Arghhh....this is driving me crazy. We have R/T Delta flights on 12/9 & 12/13.

Does it make any difference that these are with a "codeshare partner", ie Chataqua or ComAir? Are those pilots under the Delta contract?

What should I do? Sit tight and maybe try to snag tix from Orbitz, Expedia, etc at the last minute? Go ahead and get SW tix out of RDU...if so, can I cancel for a credit?

This is what I am wondering also although your flights are much sooner than mine. I don't fly until Feb 25. I got a really good deal on my Delta tickets and I don't want to give them up if I don't have to. I am checking out other options and at the very least it means putting out $500 to $1200 more. I will be checking SW for Dings I guess and see what happens. Keeping my fingers crossed for everyone with Delta flights that it all works out.

 

[Drcell01]

We are also on Delta From SYR to MCO this Tuesday and we are hoping that cooler heads prevail and a strike does not occur while we are at WDW.

 

[Disneyjosh229]

Does it make any difference that these are with a "codeshare partner", ie Chataqua or ComAir? Are those pilots under the Delta contract?

I might be mastaken, but I beleve those pilots are under a contract with their carrier (ComAir, SkyWest, Etc.) not Delta. I know for a fact that Northwest Airlink pilots are on contract through either Mesaba or Pinnacle.

 

[speakupjc]

We are holding our breath. I just paid $150+ for 3 tickets to New York with Delta and am flying on NW in a week. Certainly they won't commit career sucide.



Go OSU Bucks!!!! Michigan you are going down!

Do you know the difference between Frosted Flakes and the Michigan Wolverines? Frosted Flakes know what to do in a bowl.

 

[huskies90]

The lastest now is the hearing will go until the end of the week. Great!!

 

[bicker]

The issue with feeder airlines, like Comair, is that if Delta goes on strike, and stops operating, the feeder airlines will likely stop operating as well. Most folks fly Comair as part of an itinerary including a Delta flight. While there are folks who have end-to-end Comair itineraries, there aren't enough such passengers to warrant keeping the feeder in operation while the major carrier isn't operating.

 

[CarolA]

Actually Comair might keep flying... they have developed to a point that they have lots of "stand alone" flights especially into Orlando and some small cities.

ASA and other feeders will be in trouble.

 

[bicker]

It depends on how Delta reacts to any pilots strike that might occur. Remember that Delta owns Comair. Delta just cut 350 jobs at Comair, is cutting another 650 soon, and has announced many Comair service cuts effective in January. So, while Comair may still be flying some profitable routes, it is very likely that the vast majority of Comair flights would be grounded in case of a Delta shut-down.

 

[aubriee]

Anyone know anything about Chautauqua airlines? I booked our flight home Jan 8th through Delta on Chautauqua. Do you guys think they'll still be flying?

Last January we flew Delta to MCO, but shortly thereafter Delta cancelled all their nonstop flights out of DFW to MCO. Here in Dallas we don't have alot of choices for nonstop flights. It's either American airlines or Airtran (which would mean no preassigned seats), so I was really excited to get the flight through Delta on Chautauqua. It was about half the price of American, but won't do us any good if they're not flying.

 

[bicker]

Just a rationality check here. Does anyone strongly believe that a strike is likely? I follow the aviation industry quite closely, and I have seen nothing to indicate that. Talk of striking a bankrupt airline has been generally regarded as nothing more than hot air since the United bankruptcy judge relieved UAL of their pension obligations, and since NW's mechanics' strike failed to provide any constructive benefits to the mechanics.

 

[chris7]

I'm curious about the affect of a Delta strike on "codeshare partner" flights as well. Ours is a delta flight but flown by Freedom airlines. It's a non-stop from austin to orlando.

 

[deltachi8]

i think Bicker is right. I have a little experience iwth labor negotiations and this is hot air. Delta is not fabricating bankrupcy and the pilots are just trying to use any amount of leverage they may have - real or not.

 

[CarolA]

I think common sense will break out at the worker bee level in the union. If it were up to the union leadership they would strike. (They showed that with the NW Flight Attendants, the union wanted to strike in support of the mechanics but the vote failed)

Comair, ASA etc are under a seperate labor agreement (which is not nearly as generous) I don't think they will strike. Comair will fly those routes that it still makes sense to fly as I assume the others will during a strike.

Now if the pilots strike and DL goes out of business the rules on Comair and the other feeder lines will change... Most of them will be gone. Even the ones not owned by DL really won't survive without the "mother ship"

 

[pilferk]

I think a strike unlikely...and an extended strike almost impossible. First off, I don't think the Delta pilots want to risk losing their livelihood, permenantly. Second, given the holiday's coming up, I think you might see Government intervention should the pilots TRY to strike, ordering them to return to work.