8/17/08 Captain Jack's Repossession Repo Cruise to PC thru TPC Part 14

[Diznyfan68]

Angelina asked me to come up with a design for an ad page in the high school yearbook. This is a "rough draft" of what I did over the weekend. These are all of Angelina's school pictures from Kindergarten through 12th grade. Angelina requested the words of the song, "In My Daughter's Eyes" be added. And yes, she does call us Momster and Dadster..............

Beautiful!

 

[Verandah Man]

NOW YOU'VE GONE AND DONE IT!!

So sorry.........................

 

[brack]

LOL!!! Too funny!!!

Now scan the picture and show us!!! I'm sure it's not as bad as you say.

I know that mine is really out there!

 

[yargrnhoj]

villagesbarbara said

That sounds to me like she saw the site and then sent you her info.

Again, I am not handling this anymore so how you choose to run it is yours. I have always held that if you want to access the info, you need to share your info.

I'm beginning to understand that old phrase 'no good deed goes unpunished'.

No, I already had Barbara's information from her old user name.

I'll say this again. In order to have access to the site, you have to have submitted your info as the first page of the site says. You also have to have a significant number of posts before you'll get your account, because I am starting at the top of the posters' list and working down.

But I have removed all the personal information from the website anyway. Too much contest and turmoil to make it worthwhile.

 

[micmse2003]

Have to say the new website is fantastic thank you for all of the hard work, sorry I am not around much, on the busy Med thread.

Hi Andrew!!!! Hope everyone is doing great!!

I dunno. I've always thought it was way cool the way folks could approach this community in the way the made them most comfortable. Having a brother who's little more than a hermit - I get that not everyone will get the same personal value out of being as active as we are. Yet, they still want that feeling of connectedness, even if it's on the perifery. Or maybe, they're just looking for advice from "older and wiser heads", and the community came along for the ride. Who can tell why anyone joins.

OK, it's not the way you or I'd do it (obviously), but it works for them.

Besides, the second I sent my "personal" information to be sent out to members of this community it stopped being private and started being public. There's nothing there that I wouldn't be comforatble with anyone knowing. Sometimes it's hard to remember that once it goes out in email it's not a private conversation. I know I struggle with remembering that all the time.

I expect we're probably in violent agreement here - just using different words.

I'm sorry you don't feel welcome. It is difficult to keep up with this thread - I read a lot & only post when I actually have something to say (as opposed to just "good morning" or "good night"). Sometimes I skip whole sections of the thread because I can't take the time to go back and read 38 pages of posts.

There are a lot of us, and we need to accept that anything we post here is in a public forum (with apologies to those who aren't keen on those who lurk). Yes, we hope to make new friends before the cruise. But not everyone can type well or feels the need to post 87 times a day or can take the time to keep up. I expect that we'll have more cruise-related conversations as we get closer to the trip.

And, as with any group of over 300 people, some of us will like each other & some won't. Fortunately, we're not tied down to the group and we can hang out with the people we like once we're on board.

This should be a great group and an amazing trip and I look forward to meeting all of you.

OK, I e-mailed all my info to Lisa, but am not sure how to resend it to JR to see the website. In the meantime, my computer totally crashed. I mean totally. Nothing left so I honestly have no idea what I e-mailed to whom! Plus, first DS got sick (throwing up, 3 days), then one good day then DD got the same. Then one more good day then DH got it. I'm due to get it in a couple days so want the web site available to entertain myself! AArrrgghhh!

Here is hoping you can avoid getting sick. Keep positive thoughts.

Well said! There are many different types in the world of the web. Many folks just aren't comfortable posting online. Some prefer to "lurk" for a very long time before they post at all - some never post. I agree that it is a little weird meeting someone on the cruise who has been reading but never posted, but they have always been nice people and I have always had the feeling that meeting us and finding out that we are relatively normal and not crazy internet psychos has made them more interested in posting and joining in for their next trip. I think that it is particular scary for non-technical people who aren't sure how dangerous it is or not - they hear sensational news stories and worry that something bad will happen to them if they post online. Or they have seen someone (or been) flamed on other boards and don't want to risk saying the "wrong thing".

I setup the website for our last 3 cruises and each time there were folks who asked to be added (usually with very general info) to the list who didn't post to the thread. On our last cruise, there were even 1 or 2 that didn't even have a DIS name since they had never joined! There were also folks who only posted a couple of times and those who posted day after day.

To all those "lurkers" out there - please feel free to join in. Try just saying "Hi". You don't have to give your life history and you don't have to read every post. But if you see something that interests you, chime in. I am sure it will be easier when we get closer to the actual cruise and are talking more about the trip.... but give it a try and you will find it can be a lot of fun.

I can remember DH being really worried before our first "meet" with folks we had met online. This was in the early 90's before the Internet really became well known and we were active on a Compuserver forum. It was also a Disney group and had an annual meet at WDW during the 1st weekend of December. We decided to go and try it and if it was "too weird" we could avoid the group for the rest of the weekend - instead we found some good friends and came back each year as long as it lasted.

This has been a little long winded - I think all I really wanted to say, it please don't feel unwelcome! It takes all types to make a community and that includes the shy, quiet folks as well as the social, involved folks.

Pdarrah (Pamela)

Let me echo this. Me stepping in and doing this site should not be seen (please) as an indictment of anyone else who had been working on it in the past.

It takes time and effort, which I happened to have available at the moment and a couple of posters asked me privately if I'd be willing to do it because they thought it would be useful.

I've had a couple of people volunteer already to help out with maintenance and updates, and I will call on you.

As long as spell check is available!!!

This is definitely a concern of mine and one I am not sure how to handle with the website. Given the other issues we have seen, I chose not to include e-mail addresses on the site at all, since we have the DIS PM system to obtain those from each other.

As far as last names go, I posted them because that's what Lisa had done and apparently has done on previous cruises. If the consensus is not to use them, I can remove them from the site and reorder based on DIS name (which I am considering doing anyway since I want to find allshookup's kids and have no idea without using 'find'). So let me know what you think on last names. I like having them because as soon as I walk on the ship, they will announce 'The Gray Family' and now you will all know to turn and look. (Ok, maybe that is a reason NOT to post last names).

I don't know how to handle new posters (e.g. those with few posts). I am concerned that people could sign up for a DIS ID, post a few times and then harvest the personal information from the thread. (I am NOT saying anyone posting today is doing that, but it worries me). But then, what is the cutoff for giving website access? 10 posts? 25? 50? 2000?

And as far as 'active' posters go, how to do we decide that? Do I exclude people like Caroline or Shelley or even Lisa or Todd who used to be very active but rarely are able to post anymore?

Anyway, let me stress -- THIS IS YOUR WEBSITE, not mine. Tell me how you want it and I will do it. I can't make everyone happy and we can't all vote but let's hear the general opinion and then we will make a decision.

You know I don't think anyone here wants to appear unfriendly to newcomers or those who post less and observe more. I myself don't post as much as some, especially lately because we have a lot going on. We all have busy lives, so it just makes sense that there will be times when our posts dwindle a bit. But, for those of us who have made a friendly commitment to this group and this trip, we do at least make an effort to stay connected and pop in whenever we can.

There is a big difference between someone who posts slightly less and someone who really doesn't participate at all. I know this is a public forum, but it still feels a little uncomfortable to me that people will watch from the sidelines without so much as a comment. And you certainly can't use the pace of the thread as an excuse anymore because it has actually become quite manageable.

If this is really all about the fun of planning and being excited together then it does seem some level of give and take is needed. I'm not saying that to exclude anyone, it just seems like common sense to me. Do I mind having my last name on the website? No not really. However, does it bother me that someone can know all about me without reciprocating in any way? Yeah it does. For those of us who went through the whole spamming episode and the nasty and outrageous behavior of a few posters earlier on I think that is perfectly understandable. It makes you feel suspicious of the motives of people who really don't seem interested in being active here. That doesn't mean you have to post all the time, but at least get to know us and let us know you.

So I guess this really doesn't resolve the issue, but it is my opinion that there should be some reasonble expectation for participation if our goal is to have some cohesion and friendly group spirit.

OK, I'm done now.

There is also an outside sitting area. It will be a good spot for a meet.

Sounds like a plan !!! Give me a time so we can work around you PP party.

 

[lbgraves]

Angelina asked me to come up with a design for an ad page in the high school yearbook. This is a "rough draft" of what I did over the weekend. These are all of Angelina's school pictures from Kindergarten through 12th grade. Angelina requested the words of the song, "In My Daughter's Eyes" be added. And yes, she does call us Momster and Dadster..............

That is beautiful, Andy! I love that song!

 

[brack]

I think that it is particular scary for non-technical people who aren't sure how dangerous it is or not - they hear sensational news stories and worry that something bad will happen to them if they post online. Or they have seen someone (or been) flamed on other boards and don't want to risk saying the "wrong thing".

Pdarrah (Pamela)

Maybe being a bit technical helps but while I believe in being safe to a degree I refuse to be afraid of this kind of interaction. I have met some very wonderful people through this board and NOT ONE Axe Murderer!

 

[yargrnhoj]

Maybe being a bit technical helps but while I believe in being safe to a degree I refuse to be afraid of this kind of interaction. I have met some very wonderful people through this board and NOT ONE Axe Murderer!

I murdered an axe once. Just to watch it die.

 

[justmestace]

I know that mine is really out there!

I had braces and doofy looking hair. The only good thing (compared to now) is that I was pretty thin.
Class of '76


Oh yeah, and I wore a choker around my neck that now would probably not fit around my ankle.

 

[pdarrah]

I'm beginning to understand that old phrase 'no good deed goes unpunished'.

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But I have removed all the personal information from the website anyway. Too much contest and turmoil to make it worthwhile.

Oh no! I thought the site was great! Having a list of the fellow Pirates is a good chunk of the fun.

If people are really that concerned, maybe we should just leave out the last names. It isn't necessary to the list and without that information, the "personal" info just isn't that risky. I would have thought that not having email addresses listed would be enough to avoid spamming problems. Even with a first and last name it isn't that easy to find someone's email address (although it can sometimes be easy to find their snail mail address and phone number ) But without a last name it gets much harder to track down more info on someone. If there is still concern, leave out the town and just give state and/or country - it would be incredibly difficult to find someone based on just first names and state! Even if someone bothered to trick their way in by posting a few times and sending their "info", they still wouldn't have enough info to bother anyone (at least no more than they have here on the DIS.)

pdarrah (Pamela)

 

[justmestace]

I murdered an axe once. Just to watch it die.

That's the kind of light-heartedness I like to see!

 

[atakaratemom]

Angelina asked me to come up with a design for an ad page in the high school yearbook. This is a "rough draft" of what I did over the weekend. These are all of Angelina's school pictures from Kindergarten through 12th grade. Angelina requested the words of the song, "In My Daughter's Eyes" be added. And yes, she does call us Momster and Dadster..............

Andy that is so lovely! What a wonderful keepsake.

 

[tom31b]

I murdered an axe once. Just to watch it die.

You Axe Murderer!!!

 

[Diznyfan68]

I murdered an axe once. Just to watch it die.

So SWMBO can say "I married an axe murderer"?

 

[villagesbarbara]

villagesbarbara said

That sounds to me like she saw the site and then sent you her info.

Again, I am not handling this anymore so how you choose to run it is yours. I have always held that if you want to access the info, you need to share your info.

I initially sent in the info under a previous DIS ID which I had to change for chat. Since I had initially sent the info to another person I wasn't sure if they would make the connection. Being a real computer novice, I thought I'd send it again. Most of the time I rely on the assistance of my fellow cruisers to steer me through what to me appears to be the computer maze. Every time I have asked for assistance one of you has come to my rescue. So to all of you, thanks, and I look forward to many happy months of planning.

Barbara

 

[yargrnhoj]

So SWMBO can say "I married an axe murderer"?

I've also killed a shovel and a hoe. I am pretty rough on garden implements.

 

[brack]

I am very shy and have a hard time knowing what to say to people, but I have managed to contibute a fair share here (I hope others agree). (Last cruise I contributed only a little to the meet thread - and then chickened out on the cruise activities - with the exception of participating in the trick or treating for the kids. Hoping to push myself to be more involved this time around!)

OK a Brack confession ......

I too am very shy and do not carry the conversation in a group usually. My DW and my 34yo DS am utterly amazed at my participation in this forum and in the various meets on and off ship.

I love the people I meet every Friday night, the ones I interact with on the threads and continue to treasure the friends I have met through this forum.

 

[tiggrbaby]

JR: Thank you so very much for taking the time to put together the web site. I did so enjoy looking through it, and I anticipate using it over the next year!

Andy: The yearbook page is so beautiful! What a loving tribute to your daughter!

 

[yargrnhoj]

Oh no! I thought the site was great! Having a list of the fellow Pirates is a good chunk of the fun.

If people are really that concerned, maybe we should just leave out the last names. It isn't necessary to the list and without that information, the "personal" info just isn't that risky. I would have thought that not having email addresses listed would be enough to avoid spamming problems. Even with a first and last name it isn't that easy to find someone's email address (although it can sometimes be easy to find their snail mail address and phone number ) But without a last name it gets much harder to track down more info on someone. If there is still concern, leave out the town and just give state and/or country - it would be incredibly difficult to find someone based on just first names and state! Even if someone bothered to trick their way in by posting a few times and sending their "info", they still wouldn't have enough info to bother anyone (at least no more than they have here on the DIS.)

pdarrah (Pamela)

Just down temporarily until we get a tighter rein on our horses to figure out what we want to allow.

I guess I figured I've already shared everything about me that was posted on the site in this public forum anyway -- my name, wife's name, kids' names, ages, hometown, etc. -- so having it posted was no big deal.

So I will probably ask each of you later in the week to send me a note saying it is okay to post your info once I put my head together with a couple of the people who dragged me into this to see what they think.

As for now, it's time to spend a little quality time with my pal Johnny Walker.

 

[Gabbie]

Ok since I am not worthy of getting an email/pm with the web site and I have so few posts that by the time JR works his way down to my lowly 36 posts we will likely be on the cruise, I figured I would post something to make others cry like I did. Before I get to that though, JR, HC said the site is cool and I will just sneak on when he is browsing so there really is no worry I was just having a little pitty party since others seemed to be doing a lot of that today! I’m sure you did a Great job and you are right no good deed goes unpunished so don’t stress out about it, you did more then the ones doing the complaining did!

Anyway a little background before I post the song. I have a friend that I have known since kindergarten, we quickly became best friends and with this we have celebrated many birthdays and other occasions together. Our Mom’s started a little tradition of giving us cards and books with poems and songs written in them that hold sentimental value. In high school my mother gave us each a Dr. Seuss book called “oh the places you’ll go” and we both still have this book and her inscription. As we grew older we took over and our tradition kept up. As we had children we started sending each others kids these poems. Below is the poem that she sent to Nathan on his second birthday, it is by the Pretenders and its called Forever Young.

MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU ALWAYS
MAY YOUR WISHES ALL COME TRUE
MAY YOU ALWAYS DO FOR OTHERS
AND LET OTHERS DO FOR YOU
MAY YOU BUILD A LADDER
TO THE STARS
AND CLIMB ON EVERY RUNG
AND MAY YOU STAY
FOREVER YOUNG

MAY YOU GROW UP
TO BE RIGHTEOUS
MAY YOU GROW UP TO BE TRUE
MAY YOU ALWAYS KNOW THE TRUTH
AND SEE THE LIGHTS SURROUNDING YOU
MAY YOU ALWAYS BE COURAGEOUS
STAND UP RIGHT AND BE STRONG
AND MAY YOU STAY
FOREVER YOUNG

MAY YOUR HANDS ALWAYS BE BUSY
MAY YOUR FEET ALWAYS BE SWIFT
MAY YOU HAVE A STRONG FOUNDATION
WHEN THE WINDS OF CHANGES SHIFT
MAY YOUR HEART ALWAYS BE JOYFUL
MAY YOUR SONG ALWAYS BE SUNG
MAY YOU STAY
FOREVER YOUNG

Now that I have that out of the way.... I am off to watch Ace of Cakes, take a shower in between claps of thunder and and snuggle down into my bed for a wonderful night of Murder She Wrote... I am sure that HC will chime in when he gets home as to what a huge MSW fan I am and how it drives him crazy! Happy early 4th to all incase I don't get to post tomorrow, stay safe!