7DMR - Line jumping

[lizabu]

It sounds like speaking up is the only way to make anything happen. Remember there's more of us than there are cutters. Time to band together.

 

[minijeanie]

We had this happen at PoC at DL, and refused to let a group past us, a group of 4-5 "catching up" with a single person. It got a bit ugly. We held our ground. We called foul because the ride had actually shut down for 30 minutes, this happened towards the end of that delay. I speak up, even if I let them pass me. (It is the NJ in me).

At Great Adventure, our local park, they boot people out that line cut. My husband let a revolt there once, that got a small group ejected. Best part, they came with a larger group, a BUS trip, and had to wait for hours outside the park to get home.

We NJ girls are tough.. good for you and hubby

 

[marx]

I was at Disneyland last year on my first trip to a Disney park after being diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis and fibromyalgia. I have difficulty standing in long lines. I asked Guest Relations for a disability pass but was denied. The CM suggested that i use a wheel chair, but I really do not want or need one while navigating a park. (I don't have much of an issue walking). He then suggested that my party split up and that my wife should call or text me when she was near the entrance to a ride. This is what I did. Over the course of a week I was asked a few times why I was 'cutting' the line and at first I explained to anyone who asked. But in the end I just ignored people and moved on. This did lead to one huge argument with another guest and me getting a few FP's. We have a trip scheduled to DW in late December and I'm hoping things run more smoothly.

 

[Pluto80]

This happened to us frequently in the summer, especially when we were in line near to park opening. It drove us mad, but there were no CMs nearby to complain to. I did put a message on the Twitter page, but there was no response. One family even said they had a FP, so they could get past us. If you have one of those, you're in totally the wrong line!

 

[Gracie09]

I was at Disneyland last year on my first trip to a Disney park after being diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis and fibromyalgia. I have difficulty standing in long lines. I asked Guest Relations for a disability pass but was denied. The CM suggested that i use a wheel chair, but I really do not want or need one while navigating a park. (I don't have much of an issue walking). He then suggested that my party split up and that my wife should call or text me when she was near the entrance to a ride. This is what I did. Over the course of a week I was asked a few times why I was 'cutting' the line and at first I explained to anyone who asked. But in the end I just ignored people and moved on. This did lead to one huge argument with another guest and me getting a few FP's. We have a trip scheduled to DW in late December and I'm hoping things run more smoothly.

Das is not for mobility related issues. The inability to physically stand and wait in line is a mobility issue. You will likely be told the same thing at wdw and be told to use a mobility device. Just because you don't use one in regular life does not mean it's not an appropriate accommodation at wdw. I would suggest a rollator (walker with wheels and a seat) if you don't want an ecv or wheelchair. You also can push the wheelchair as a walker and sit in it as needed. I have been to dl in years but the lines at wdw are set up so it is very difficult to get through without pushing past people and that imo is rude unless it's an emergency. Y

 

[DrunkJam]

I am already anxious about this. We will, of course use FP (and DS qualifies for a DAS) but, I worry about how we will get treated if, we get in the standby line, and say, my 4 yr old needs to pee. if I take her, out of the line, and DS and DH stay in line, will DD and I have to start the queue again from the back? The extra waiting would be an inconvenience, but, splitting the group and then trying to find each other afterwards will totally freak DS out (he has ASD)

Does this mean we might be better off NEVER using standby (maybe unless the line is VERY short)

This might be what we might have to do anyway, with DS, we wouldn't want him to hurt himself or anyone else if he suddenly reaches overload in a longer queue tightly packed in.

SO many things to worry about! Sorry

 

[mdb78]

If it's 1-2 people trying to trying to catch up, I don't really care. If it's more and especially 3 families as op stated, then that's just not cool.

 

[marx]

Das is not for mobility related issues. The inability to physically stand and wait in line is a mobility issue. You will likely be told the same thing at wdw and be told to use a mobility device. Just because you don't use one in regular life does not mean it's not an appropriate accommodation at wdw. I would suggest a rollator (walker with wheels and a seat) if you don't want an ecv or wheelchair. You also can push the wheelchair as a walker and sit in it as needed.

I don't disagree with the DAS policy. But, there are disabled people who do not need or want a wheelchair or rollator.

I have been to dl in years but the lines at wdw are set up so it is very difficult to get through without pushing past people and that imo is rude unless it's an emergency. Y

If I am told again by Guest Services at DW to have my family call/text me to meet them at the front of the line then it is Policy and not rudeness. As someone who is disabled I take offense to that remark.

 

[DisneyOma]

I was at Disneyland last year on my first trip to a Disney park after being diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis and fibromyalgia. I have difficulty standing in long lines. I asked Guest Relations for a disability pass but was denied. The CM suggested that i use a wheel chair, but I really do not want or need one while navigating a park. (I don't have much of an issue walking). He then suggested that my party split up and that my wife should call or text me when she was near the entrance to a ride. This is what I did. Over the course of a week I was asked a few times why I was 'cutting' the line and at first I explained to anyone who asked. But in the end I just ignored people and moved on. This did lead to one huge argument with another guest and me getting a few FP's. We have a trip scheduled to DW in late December and I'm hoping things run more smoothly.

Since standing/mobility/stamina are your issues, I doubt you'd get a DAS. You are responsible for your needs, and Disney offers rental wheelchairs, ECVs, etc for mobility issues. If you choose not to use them, that's your choice. But WDW queues are tight, long, indoors, and windy.

I am already anxious about this. We will, of course use FP (and DS qualifies for a DAS) but, I worry about how we will get treated if, we get in the standby line, and say, my 4 yr old needs to pee. if I take her, out of the line, and DS and DH stay in line, will DD and I have to start the queue again from the back? The extra waiting would be an inconvenience, but, splitting the group and then trying to find each other afterwards will totally freak DS out (he has ASD)

Does this mean we might be better off NEVER using standby (maybe unless the line is VERY short)

This might be what we might have to do anyway, with DS, we wouldn't want him to hurt himself or anyone else if he suddenly reaches overload in a longer queue tightly packed in.

SO many things to worry about! Sorry

Have her pee before getting into a long queue. That's what we do.

I don't disagree with the DAS policy. But, there are disabled people who do not need or want a wheelchair or rollator.



If I am told again by Guest Services at DW to have my family call/text me to meet them at the front of the line then it is Policy and not rudeness. As someone who is disabled I take offense to that remark.

It's fine if you don't want to use a wheelchair, but that's the accommodation WDW uses for mobility issues. Be prepared to stand in queues, and not be able to cut through a few hundred people criss-crossed through an indoor, walled up, packed line.

 

[100AcreWood]

I have left the line with a kid who needed to poop (hey you never know when the mood will strike!) and no one said anything when I re-joined the line. I think overall people are very understanding.

Now it would just two of us so not the same as a whole family walking past everyone standing in line.

 

[maxiesmom]

I don't disagree with the DAS policy. But, there are disabled people who do not need or want a wheelchair or rollator.



If I am told again by Guest Services at DW to have my family call/text me to meet them at the front of the line then it is Policy and not rudeness. As someone who is disabled I take offense to that remark.

Disney World doesn't handle things the same as Disneyland. Disney World's policy is that if stamina is your issue, then you need to use a wheelchair or scooter. You won't be able to cut by people in line without physically touching them, and many won't appreciate it. They would only have your word that you were told to do so, and I can see it turning very ugly. And I have never ever heard of DW telling people to phone/cut in line. You need to be prepared to rent a scooter or ECV if you want to enjoy your vacation without having to stand in the lines.

 

[TAK]

Disney World doesn't handle things the same as Disneyland. Disney World's policy is that if stamina is your issue, then you need to use a wheelchair or scooter. You won't be able to cut by people in line without physically touching them, and many won't appreciate it. They would only have your word that you were told to do so, and I can see it turning very ugly. And I have never ever heard of DW telling people to phone/cut in line. You need to be prepared to rent a scooter or ECV if you want to enjoy your vacation without having to stand in the lines.

Going to have to agree. I have a great deal of difficulty standing -- whereas walking is easier -- for any length of time, so I know just what you're going through. But I choose not to rent a chair, so that's my call. We just don't wait in standby lines, unless they're super short.

 

[MinnieMSue]

Over the years, I have seen it rarely at Disney, but I have seen it.

In my head, I always had the half rule. I understand the two people catching up to the family of six, but not the family of six catching up to the two people. But there are people who are very strict (You should not get in line until your entire family is ready), and people who are very understanding (what is the big deal, we will get in the next car).

Never really see line cutting at Carowinds (Cedar Fair Park in Charlotte), but not normally there when there is much of a line.

Hey, Cedar Fair people, I know this is the wrong forum, but a quick question. We are Carowinds season pass holders as well, and thinking about getting the “Premium Pass with food” next year, and doing a two week grand circle trip which would include hitting Worlds of Fun, Valleyfair, Michigan Adventure, Canada’s Wonderland, Cedar Point & Soak City and King’s Island (and some family in-between). Anyone done that/worth it/recommendations?

We have platinum pass and I know people who have done this. They definitely get their money worth. Platinum includes free parking so that is huge alone. I haven't gotten the meal add on and am glad I didn't this year since I had back surgery and that really eliminated my coaster riding since mid summer. Doing such a trip you would have to come out ahead on passes and meal deal.

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

I was at Disneyland last year on my first trip to a Disney park after being diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis and fibromyalgia. I have difficulty standing in long lines. I asked Guest Relations for a disability pass but was denied. The CM suggested that i use a wheel chair, but I really do not want or need one while navigating a park. (I don't have much of an issue walking). He then suggested that my party split up and that my wife should call or text me when she was near the entrance to a ride. This is what I did. Over the course of a week I was asked a few times why I was 'cutting' the line and at first I explained to anyone who asked. But in the end I just ignored people and moved on. This did lead to one huge argument with another guest and me getting a few FP's. We have a trip scheduled to DW in late December and I'm hoping things run more smoothly.

This is definitely going to be a problem at WDW.

I have similar problems. I have been diagnosed with RA and lupus. Like you, I have a hard time standing in line. Also, WDW is much larger than DW, so I can't make it an entire day.

I rent a scooter. And it isn't cheap. So, for you to say to me, "I'm cutting in line because I have a hard time standing for a long time." Well, I will very happily give you the contact information for the scooter rental company.

 

[disneyseniors]

I'm confused! doesn't the new DAC at WDW allow for someone who cannot tolerate standing in line for long periods for whatever reason, be it autism, bad back, arthritis? I thought then you would get a time to come back which is 10 minutes shorter than the posted time. Then you could go sit down somewhere and await your time? That's what I thought the DAC card did?
Also, have a 7dmt cutting tale to tell: a couple of years ago, when it was relatively "new" and had extremely long lines, my grandson, husband and I decided to wait in a 60 minute line. The line was extremely long outside where you enter the ride queue (outside queue path). We had just come up to this part when a young woman walked in from the other direction and stopped right in front of us!!!! She was smiling and proud of herself, apparently. I said, "the back of the line is back there" pointing a long way back. She just smiled and turned her back to me and didn't leave. I didn't want to start a fight so I just let it go. I know I should have done something, but what? There was no CM around, and I made the choice to let her go, but it has bothered me every since. Not so much that she cut, but that there are so many people who think they are entitled to do so.......

 

[Gracie09]

I'm confused! doesn't the new DAC at WDW allow for someone who cannot tolerate standing in line for long periods for whatever reason, be it autism, bad back, arthritis? I thought then you would get a time to come back which is 10 minutes shorter than the posted time. Then you could go sit down somewhere and await your time? That's what I thought the DAC card did?
Also, have a 7dmt cutting tale to tell: a couple of years ago, when it was relatively "new" and had extremely long lines, my grandson, husband and I decided to wait in a 60 minute line. The line was extremely long outside where you enter the ride queue (outside queue path). We had just come up to this part when a young woman walked in from the other direction and stopped right in front of us!!!! She was smiling and proud of herself, apparently. I said, "the back of the line is back there" pointing a long way back. She just smiled and turned her back to me and didn't leave. I didn't want to start a fight so I just let it go. I know I should have done something, but what? There was no CM around, and I made the choice to let her go, but it has bothered me every since. Not so much that she cut, but that there are so many people who think they are entitled to do so.......

if its a mobility issue, you are advised to get a mobility device and you can take them in most lines. The few you cannot you are given a return time.

 

[Gracie09]

I don't disagree with the DAS policy. But, there are disabled people who do not need or want a wheelchair or rollator.



If I am told again by Guest Services at DW to have my family call/text me to meet them at the front of the line then it is Policy and not rudeness. As someone who is disabled I take offense to that remark.

How nice of you to assume that I or members of my family do not have a disability.

 

[Kelly Sullivan]

We were at POC in MK a few years ago and the line was pretty non-existant and we had a big group of teens running through the line jumping over the chains and posts etc to get around the 5 of us as we walked through at a normal pace. A CM kicked them out of the ride. Not sure if they were told to go back and start over or leave the ride entirely but they were definitely reprimanded and corrected for their behavior and there wasn't even a line. They were being rowdy and dangerous though as they ran past several other families before they got to us. It is still cutting in line if you are not waiting your turn

 

[memo10]

I called some teenagers trying to jump in the FP line at ToT. Otherwise it's never been much of an issue. I also don't mind if there's a bathroom emergency or something similar... but a large group isn't ok!

 

[phlppians413]

We actually had a lady yell at US while entering the queue for the Safari. She had gotten separated from her group and wanted us and everyone behind us to stop walking until they caught up. We said "Sorry, no" and just kept walking. Also have had the "line jumping" happen to us many, many times on a lot of different rides. Some people just don't get it, or care how what they do affects others.