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After almost a year of our new life in the autism world, I am ready to start to help others. I want to start a non profit to help other Wy. parents navigate the Waiver system. To offer support to those via internet to those who don't have anyone or anything. To offer educational support and resources to the parents in a safe and compassionate setting. To open learning opportunities for the children to learn alternative methods of learning.

I have the basic research finished but wanted to know if anyone here has done this before? I could use some guidance and support myself.

Thanks, April
 
I've helped two charities get their 501(c)3 paperwork, and I"ll tell you it's quite complicated.

There are specific steps you need to take, and specific activities you are precluded from participating in or you'll lose your status.

In all honesty, before you do anything, think realistically about what type of donations you expect to get and who they will be from. Because you are serving primarily one state with a minimal population, it's highly unlikely that you'll get donations from any businesses other than small local business, and that's where the big money usually comes from. (That said, it's not impossible for a "local" charity to get big money donations--read here for the story of the New Orleans Musicians Clinic. The difference is that they had several full-time volunteers, well connected in the world (they count as friends legendary artists, musicians, journalists, business people, and other celebrities) who were "retired" or "semi-retired" and had all the time in the world to spend on it's creation.

Make sure that your goals, and the costs associated with them aren't going to supercede your projected income. (And whatever you project your income to be, cut it in half, because that's what it really will be.)

It's better to smart small and grow than to start with lofty goals and fold for financial or other reasons. Volunteers are encouraged when goals are achieved, they grow discouraged and leave the organization when they aren't seeing goals being accomplished because the organization has overstepped what they can realisitcally accomplish.

A 501 (C) 3 is required to keep detailed records, issue letters of contribution to all contributors who give more than (I think) $500, and file tax returns. The bookkeeping alone can be almost a full-time job depending on how many contributions you get and what you spend them on.

You need to write a charter, appoint a board of directors, and draw up by-laws before you can do anything more.

My best advice is to sit down and write out exactly what you want to accomplish, how you plan on doing so, how much each goal will cost, and where you reasonably expect to get funding from. How will you go about fundraising?

Don't expect that you'll ask and they will give. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way in the real world. You need to be able to offer a return--hosting an event like an annual golf tournament or gala or celebrity auction is a good start, and if the press is played right it will also bring you publicity. But events like this require some money in the bank to begin the planning, and unless you or someone else involved with your organization has professional event planning experience (your cousins wedding doesn't count) you'll have to hire a planner.

I only know of one charity that has been around for ten years now that is so grass roots that they never do any major fundraising, and the donations come in in $1-5 increments usually. But they've been successful, I think partly because they have zero overhead and keep their mission small and simple and extremely limited in scope. (They collect donations for animal shelters, and will only pay medical bills directly to vets or send food, litter, and other necessary supplies. They also have a deal with a supplier so they get all the food and litter at cost.) Because they have kept their scope so small, they've been successful. They have a thing called the "buck-a-month club" where anyone who is interested gets a set of mailing labels sent to them at the beginning of every year. Each month they place a label on an envelope and stick in "A Buck" (or more) and send it in. This generates over $1000 a month for them, and is an easy way for anyone with any budget to donate.

I got a little off-track...

Do you know anyone with a "celebrity" status who could be your spokesperson?

Also research to make sure there isn't already another organization with overlapping goals.

Then sit down with an attorney who has done this type of work before and ask his opinion. In all honesty, a friend of mine who is an accountant who specializes in this type of work says that over half of the charities who start up fold within the first two years either due to lack of funding, or lack of volunteers. People will be gung-ho at first, but will quickly lose interest. Trust me, been there, done that.

My advise is to narrow your scope to one or two goals, preferably goals that will require little cash to acheive, and can be accomplished with minimal volunteers. After you've been up and running and are finding those goals easy to achive and have more in donations than you need to achive them, add another goal to your mission. Just keep growing it that way.

Good luck!

Anne
 
The cost of having someone do the tax return on a 501(c)(3) is probably more then you will receive. The return is very complicated and therefore has to be done by a CPA.
 

Ducklite,

Wow, that was amazing! I was so grateful that you were complete and through in your reply. That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

I know this is huge but I like the idea of a single goal, grass roots, which being in Wyoming is the only thing I can do.

I have been working on my mission statement and value statement, I have the directors and bylaws already. I know how to file IRS ID number and I think I can do the non profit paperwork for them.

Before I hit the moose I was a very sought after bookkeeper in Jackson, however now....my 10 key tapes are always off and I just don't get some concepts. If I were to go very very slow with a system of checks and balances, I might be able to get thru the financial statements, balance sheets, etc.

Funding, we are right by Jackson. Very wealthy Jackson!!! Old Bill's fun run, even my church. I mainly want to explore and become proficient in grant writing.

Mostly I don't want to have any parent have to go the waiver system alone. It was hell for me and I know I can help others. Additionally, I want to be able to provide a safe room and staff for the children to be engaged in different learning opportunities while the parents are getting the resources they need to cope.

Any additional information is greatly appreciated.

Thanks, April
 
Michigan said:
The cost of having someone do the tax return on a 501(c)(3) is probably more then you will receive. The return is very complicated and therefore has to be done by a CPA.

Either a CPA or someone very familiar with the ins and outs of tax law and corporate filings (which is what it is.)

That said, often you can find a CPA willing to donate their time to file the return as long as your record keeping is meticulous and all they really need to do is plug in the numbers. (Again, knowledge from experience!)

I used to fill out as much of the return as I could and then hand that along with our financial records which had already been reviewed by a no-longer practicing CPA volunteer over to a different and currently practicing CPA who completed and filed the return as a donation.

Anne
 
tacomaranch said:
Ducklite,

Wow, that was amazing! I was so grateful that you were complete and through in your reply. That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

I know this is huge but I like the idea of a single goal, grass roots, which being in Wyoming is the only thing I can do.

I have been working on my mission statement and value statement, I have the directors and bylaws already. I know how to file IRS ID number and I think I can do the non profit paperwork for them.

Getting an EIN number is a very different and significantly easier process than filing the detailed 30+ pages required for getting a 501(c)3.

Before I hit the moose I was a very sought after bookkeeper in Jackson, however now....my 10 key tapes are always off and I just don't get some concepts. If I were to go very very slow with a system of checks and balances, I might be able to get thru the financial statements, balance sheets, etc.

I would suggest getting a CPA or experienced accountant (not bookkeeper) to double check it all on a quarterly basis. That might be required by your charter--basically an independent audit--it's a very practical thing to add to any charter to alleviate any appearance of financial impropriaty.

Funding, we are right by Jackson. Very wealthy Jackson!!! Old Bill's fun run, even my church. I mainly want to explore and become proficient in grant writing.

Most of those folks are already capitated to charities. Bill, Warren, Donald already ahve foundations with specific goals, and generally don't hand out donations outside of those foundations. You might be better off looking at various foundations who fund charities with similar goals as yours and approach them. A hint is to find another organization in another state that is running a similar program, call them and speak to their director and ask to pick his/her brain. Ask about pitfalls, any fundraising they've done that has been successful--or not. Ask where they get their funding. Ask how they've gone about approaching foundations, and even ask for help in grant writing.

Mostly I don't want to have any parent have to go the waiver system alone. It was hell for me and I know I can help others. Additionally, I want to be able to provide a safe room and staff for the children to be engaged in different learning opportunities while the parents are getting the resources they need to cope.

That is where the big cash layout is going to come in. Start smaller first--with just resources for parents. Establish your organization as "going to be there for the long run" before looking for funding to open a and staff a center. Develop hand outs and provide speakers to address parents at PTA meetings, anywhere that you can gather people with an interest.

Any additional information is greatly appreciated.

Thanks, April

You might want to get in touch with the folks at EDEN because they've already invented this wheel. You might want to just think about becoming one of their chapters.

Anne
 
I basically agree with everything said earlier but just want to add one point which was not addressed clearly.

To get a 501c(3) you must be a corporation. You will have to check with either the Wyoming Secretary of State or an attorney to get that step done. And it must be done before you file for an EIN or the 501c(3) status.
 
Cheshire Figment said:
I basically agree with everything said earlier but just want to add one point which was not addressed clearly.

To get a 501c(3) you must be a corporation. You will have to check with either the Wyoming Secretary of State or an attorney to get that step done. And it must be done before you file for an EIN or the 501c(3) status.

Yes and no.

Yes, you need to become incorporated to get a 501(c)3. No, you don't need to be a corporation to get an EIN. That can be done by any business of any type or filing status, just keep in mind that until you are incorporated and a 501(c)3, that businses will need to pay taxes on any income it gets. Once the business incorporates, the EIN will be corrected to show the new status.

The advantage to having the EIN prior to incorporation is with banking and taxes. SOMEONE/THING will need to pay taxes on any donations/income derived by the charity, and without an EIN, it will be SOMEONE. Also banks will not open a business account in the name of the business unless you have an EIN or a DBA. If you have a DBA under your name then YOU will be accountable for taxes and filings as opposed to the business entity.

A good accountant can tell you how to avoid paying more than minimal taxes on income until you get the 501(3)c. I'm not going to get into that here as it probably constritutes legal advice.

Bototm line, seek advice from an attorney experienced in this type of practice, or a CPA.

Anne
 
Could you start with a web site.......and accept sponsorships to cover the costs , lots of Disney fan sites do this! Don't give up on your dream....just start with small chunks.
I am on the board of directors of a group that just accomplished 501 c3 status in Idaho. It was so involved! almost a year of work....and that was with a paid Exe Director.
On the other hand, I am starting a business (LLC), and it took me two 10 minute trips to the statehouse, 15 minutes to fill in the form, and $120.Very easy! The EIN will also be quick.
 














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