4th of July Incident and MK

Pigsty333

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I apologize - this is a little long:

4th of July
This 4th of July we decided to go to the Magic Kingdom and watch the Fireworks. We currently live in Florida and some of my daughter's friends and girl scout troop from NY were visiting. We picked them up at the hotel, and proceeded to go to the park. This group included my husband, my 11 yr. old son, my 13 yr., her two friend, her former troop leader and a co-leader. We had a wonderful day doing everything Disney - pictures, rides and dinner at Liberty Tree Tavern.

We then proceeded to Main Street to catch the Fireworks and then to see SpectroMagic. They were setting up the ropes and we asked a cast member if it was okay to stand there and he said yes. We got our spots, sat down with the kids and tried to enjoy our wait. As I was talking to the adults in the group, this woman who was standing next to us butted into our conversation and began to berate us about which event we were watching, etc. When I politely said to her that I knew which event was coming first and what we were doing, she proceeded to give us a very dirty look. She was accompanied by a little boy no more than 10 yrs. old. A short while later an older woman joined her and we saw her talking and pointing to us. By this time the ropes had been set up around the walkway (and for those of you familiar with Main Street) this is the around where the flag pole is and the characters mingle in that cirle, in front of the train station. There is a garbage can on either side and rails. There were many small children around the rails and we had placed our cameras, raingear and bags on top of the garbage cans. My son was leaning up on the rail when the older woman began to scream at my son, telling him that she worked there and she did not want him in that area and did not want to see him sitting on top of a garbage can, etc. I then turned and told her that she did not need to concern herself with my son, his father was with him as well as the older girls and to basically mind her own business. She continued screaming and yelling, making such a scene and saying she was calling a supervisor that I told her to go ahead. No one came, but she continued her tirade. We proceeded to ignore her and the fireworks started.

It was beautiful and very emotional. I cried since having moved from NY and a retired cop (lots of memories and 9/11). We all sang the songs, the national anthem, america the beautiful etc. At the end of the fireworks we proceeded to gather our belongings when I saw this woman (the younger) one walk over to my daughter, slap her on the shoulder and start screaming and cursing at her (words I can't even describe here) and tell her that she was surprised that she knew the songs and she should be proud. My daughter told her that she sings them everyday and we are very patriotic, to which she began to call her a not so nice word beginning with w and ending in e. She was pushing her and telling her she was an inbred. She proceeded to tell my child that as an American Indian she had every right to sing her songs and that she made more money than we would ever make in our lifetime. Her mother then started to call all of us names - my husband is Irish, I am Puerto Rican and the others in our group were African American. They both continued and as she started to push my daughter, who was hysterical crying at this point, I had had enough. I stepped in and told her to cut it out. Here we are in the middle of the Magic Kingdom and this scene is being created. People were walking past us and trying to figure out what was happening. I was mortified and felt sorry for my child. As I stepped in between her and my child and move my child away, this woman turned her fury on me, pushed her face into my face, actually touching noses and proceeded to spit on me. At this point, I lost all my control and proceeded to slap her. She backed away and at this time the security officers, which my husband had gone to get came by.

They asked them for ID, they denied the incident and refused to identify themselves as employees. Can you believe it, they did not detain and take them to an office and verify if they were employees. A couple of the supervisors, head of security, etc. came over to us and told us that she refused to provide ID, denied working at WDW and had exited the park. I thought this was a little disappointing that nothing else was done.

BY this time all the other families that were seated around the circle informed the security that this woman had been cursing them out, screaming at them and that I was the last family she started with.

All in all, a really bad 4th of July. And for those of you who witnessed it, I apologize.
 
I'm so sorry that happened to you. Sounds as if she was drunk or on drugs or something. I don't know what I would've done had that happened to me. But like you I definitely wouldn't stand there and let someone touch my child.

Hope you never have an experience like that again.
 
Do you have any idea what set her off? Sounds to me like she has some deep issues and needs professional help.
 

There are always going to be weirdos, wackos, and prejudiced people (unfortunately) but what surprises me is that Disney did not at least ask them to leave. We have often seen people breaking the rules or being obnoxios at Disney and other places and they often get away with it. I think the employees are just young and a little scared to confront there folks. Anyway, there should be security guards that employees can call in in these situations to deal with these people. I worked at Penneys in college in Tallahassee and if a customer ever got aggresive or anything we could call security.....a BIG guy who rarely failed to get them out of the place!!! Was the park about to close? Maybe they thought everyone is leaving so why do anything, but they still should have done something IMHO.
 
In addition to verbal abuse, it sounds like there was also a physical confrontation. Didn't the security guards even ask you about pressing charges? Obviously they are going to deny the altercation, but it sounds like there were plenty of witnesses around to support your story. Did they just let them leave the park and not make any type of incident report?

I hope your daughter and the rest of your group are okay.
 
well- i was not rasied this way, BUT i was very happy to see that you slapped! - thats all i kept thinking as your post went on....smack her! - i would not have been able to even keep my cool as long as you did.
I work with the public and after the last 4 years of putting up with unprovoked actions and words and i can frankly say....that nasty woman will get hers someday, someday she will run into
someone who will not take one ounce of her crap! -


i sure hope she was not a CM.....


Tina
 
What a nutter!!??!! I am so glad you slapped her. I am sorry that you all had to go through that. What a shame.
 
I wish that the other people around you had stood in support of you all. I would have. If more people would stand up for each other these bullies and dimwits would soon disappear into the woodwork where they belong.

"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing."

Hoping that your wonderful memories of your trip will wash away those few brief bad moments.

SG/Linda
 
I still can't figure ot the word that begins with w and ends with e!
Some help please?

I, too am glad you slapped her. I would never let someone touch any of my kids either!!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
Originally posted by Simba0319
I still can't figure ot the word that begins with w and ends with e!

I think it can sometimes rhyme with the word "hoe".
 
That is truly awful...I am so sorry that you had to endure such abuse from a stranger on a very special night. Coming from NY and enjoying a truly remarkable display, only to have some prejudicial person destroy everything you hold dear is a disgrace to human kind! I am happy you stood up for your daughter, and happier that you continued to stand your ground. No one has the right to behave that way. It is unfortunate that Disney did nothing to help you out.
I am sorry that such people exist...
Jo
 
Originally posted by SlightlyGoofy
I wish that the other people around you had stood in support of you all. I would have. If more people would stand up for each other these bullies and dimwits would soon disappear into the woodwork where they belong.

"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing."

Hoping that your wonderful memories of your trip will wash away those few brief bad moments.

SG/Linda


I echo ALL of your sentiments here. That's one of my favorite quotes and I try to live by it.

Thanks SlightlyGoofy for saying it so well. :)
 
OMG. You are a bigger person then me cause the first time someone touches one of my kids or talks to them like that they will be collecting there teeth off the floor. They sound very prejudice to me. Thats a shame.
 
You should have demanded that WDW Security call the police and file a report. WDW or not, THAT's assault and the police should have been notified!
 
Having been raised by a racist (and uneducated) father and an educated and intelligent mother I can tell you that racism comes from ignorance and fear. If you feel so badly about yourself the only way some can cope is by putting others down, no matter how unwarranted it might be. I would hate to live in a world where everyone was just like me. Boring!!

DisMN, thanks for the kind words but they belong to my mother who taught me well.

SG/Linda
 



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