$445 A NIGHT for GCH!! Are they serious?

So,here is another thought....if they have rates in the $200 -$300 range for spring break dates...will they put out codes for May which is usually a slower time? If I book the $380 rate and they put out a code in a few weeks, will they adjust my reservation?

Yes you can. I did just that with mine. Called and reserved a room last fall for February. A couple months late when the splash closure was announced I called and moved it to January. When the winter 35% thing came out, I called back, told them I wanted to have the new discount apply to my reservation, and they did it. But, it only works if you do a ROOM ONLY reservation. A package has its own rules.
 
So,here is another thought....if they have rates in the $200 -$300 range for spring break dates...will they put out codes for May which is usually a slower time? If I book the $380 rate and they put out a code in a few weeks, will they adjust my reservation?

If you want to try something like this, I highly recommend you book through Dreams Unlimited. They will track your ressie and notify you of any discount opportunities. They have a real handle on how to best use the system to your advantage, so take advantage of their expertise.
 

Anyone know if there's a way to check a calendar for room rates? i've used a system like that many of times for other hotels and it helps so much with planning. Just a thought???
 
I wish I understood the whole DVC thing more. It seems so confusing, the whole point thing... are you buying points for any Disney property, and when you factor in maintenance plus the initial buy in how do you know it's a good deal?
 
There is no way I would pay $445/night. We will probably never stay there. I just can't justify it when there are perfectly nice/clean hotels right across the street.

I completely hear you on this one. I stayed there a few years ago and we enjoyed it (got in for $200 a night, I believe -- conference rate). The common areas are very nice but overall it's not really worth it to me. If I could take two trips per year on a relative budget versus one trip to DL at the GCH, I'd take the two trips.

Rob
 
When I checked the cash rates about a year ago when trying to equate points vs what we would have to pay out of the pocket, I called the reservation number, when the CM answered that she could not help me,
I asked to speak to her lead. I was on hold for about 3-4 minutes and the lead came back with the rates for a studio and a 1 bedroom. Since point requirements have gone up for the Villas, I would think cash rates would also. But I also heard there have been none available for cash????

Jack
 
When I checked the cash rates about a year ago when trying to equate points vs what we would have to pay out of the pocket, I called the reservation number, when the CM answered that she could not help me,
I asked to speak to her lead. I was on hold for about 3-4 minutes and the lead came back with the rates for a studio and a 1 bedroom. Since point requirements have gone up for the Villas, I would think cash rates would also. But I also heard there have been none available for cash????

Jack

If you want the price for a 2 bedroom you can just add the price of the studio and the price of the 1 bedroom to get a good estimate since that what a 2 bedroom actually is. Also the points requirements can't go up. That is the nature of DVC. It can adjust between days of the week and times of year, but the points required to stay from Jan1-Dec31 will remain the same every year. The cash prices can, and most likely will, fluctuate every year even if only because of inflation!
 
I phoned and asked how much a 2 bed villa was at the Grand (it would easily fit 8 of us) and they quoted me over $1400.00 a night. We are paying under that for a whole week at a hotel on Harbor. So it was decided to just stay where we were.

In September I stayed at the DLH and got a great deal. It was under $200 a night and we ended up in the Adventure (Dreams) Tower in a renovated room with a view of DTD. There were 4 of us paying for the room and it worked out to be about $10 more a night each to stay there than it did to stay on Harbor. That will probably be the only time I will get to stay on site. I will say this, though. I LOVVVVVVVVVVVED it. We really did feel emursed in the 'Disney Magic'. For us it was worth it. If I had the money I would do it again. So bottom line is, if it is not putting a financial strain on the day to day parts of your life before or after your trip, then stay on site.
 
If you want the price for a 2 bedroom you can just add the price of the studio and the price of the 1 bedroom to get a good estimate since that what a 2 bedroom actually is. Also the points requirements can't go up. That is the nature of DVC. It can adjust between days of the week and times of year, but the points required to stay from Jan1-Dec31 will remain the same every year. The cash prices can, and most likely will, fluctuate every year even if only because of inflation!

Let me put it this way, it is costing me more money this year than it did last year, apples to apples(the points requirement to stay there.)

Jack
 
I wish I understood the whole DVC thing more. It seems so confusing, the whole point thing... are you buying points for any Disney property, and when you factor in maintenance plus the initial buy in how do you know it's a good deal?

Not to get into the whole process about DVC (there are some great FAQ'a in the DVC forums that will walk you through), but I will give you a brief "in a nutshell" view of DVC

1) You buy points which can then be used in any DVC resort, any Disney properties at WDW or Disneyland, Disney Cruise, and an assortment of other places which quite honestly aren't any kind of a deal.

2) The actual points needed for a stay vary based on day of week, time of year, size of room

3) There is a yearly maintenance fee per point which are ranging from $4-6 depending on resort. Majority of the resorts are at $5-5.50 per point

4) Most people calculate the "value" for yearly use based on 2 things... actual maint. fee and the prorated amount of the original contract.
Example. Let's say, I bought 200 pts for $100/point ($20,000). I paid cash so I had no closing/interest costs. That contract is for 50 years of points. Divide the total cost by 50 years and that is how much I spend each year towards my initial investment ($1000). If you finance it is totally different, you have to figure in interest, etc... this is just to give you a simplified idea of "value".
So last year my initial cost was $1000 and my maintenance dues were around $900 for a total cost of $1900.

With those points I can book full week studio during busy times of spring break or summer.

Can travel off season, say right after Thanksgiving and before Christmas? I can stay 5 nights (Sun-Thu) in a 1BR suite.

So my actual "value" for 5 nights of a 1BR suite would be $380 night OR 7night stay in summer Studio would be $272 night.

Before anyone worries about quibbling over the math this is just meant to be estimates and in now a comprehensive value assessment. :)

just a little example
 
Thank you! That helped tremendously!

You are welcome. Honestly, we have never worried about including the original investment so much in our value. We figure, we bought in with vacationing in mind, then we will give point to our kids when they are ready to travel with their family just as part of their inheritance. So we really just look at maint fees as our overall cost. And we have found creative ways to extend your value. We tend to go to WDW, spend first few days in a studio resort room, then move to a 1BR last few days. That way we get a washer/dryer.. more space toward end of our trip when we are getting more tired... plus we use less points!

Example: Trip in May or early June...We can stay 4 days (Sat-Tue) at AKL in a value studio, then move for 3 days in a 2BR suite with savannah view! All for less than 200 points or actual maint cost of $900-1,000. Pretty amazing as far as we are concerned :)
 
Let me put it this way, it is costing me more money this year than it did last year, apples to apples(the points requirement to stay there.)

Jack

That's because people were only staying on the weekdays and leaving when it got more expensive on the weekends so DVD had to make some adjustments to encourage people to stay the weekends! In your case you are doing the first week in August... Monday-Saturday 4 week nights and 1 weekend night:

2010:
4 week nights @ 46 points per night(ppn) = 184
1 weekend night @ 80 ppn = 80
Total for your 5 nights = 264

2011:
4 week nights @ 52 ppn = 208
1 weekend night @ 64 ppn = 64
Total for the same 5 nights = 272

While in your situation it may look like the price went up, if you calculate it out for the whole week the total in 2010 = 390 points... in 2011 it is 388! The first week in August actually got cheaper by 2 points over last year. ;)
 
That's because people were only staying on the weekdays and leaving when it got more expensive on the weekends so DVD had to make some adjustments to encourage people to stay the weekends! In your case you are doing the first week in August... Monday-Saturday 4 week nights and 1 weekend night:

2010:
4 week nights @ 46 points per night(ppn) = 184
1 weekend night @ 80 ppn = 80
Total for your 5 nights = 264

2011:
4 week nights @ 52 ppn = 208
1 weekend night @ 64 ppn = 64
Total for the same 5 nights = 272

While in your situation it may look like the price went up... if you calculate it out for the whole week the total in 2010 = 390 points... in 2011 it is 388! the first week in August actually got cheaper by 2 points over last year. ;)

We are doing Sun-Sat, the first week in August and I think it was 324 points. Thought about doing a Friday tranfer to a reg room to save some money but my wife does not want to move. She figures it would be a wasted day,get packed moved to bell checked in later in the afternoon and so forth, so we go for the weekend night. Thanks for the logic.

Jack
 
I know this is a little off topic but blackjackdelta you're pretty cute.

Well thank you for the compliment. Not doing bad for an old man. That pic was taken a couple of years ago when I was 58.

Jack
 


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