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[Kath2003]

ohh, I'll get dragged into this. Whether I want to or not. And the second person has offered us thier room, but with thier new baby I don't want to intrude. And it was never formally discussed as the topic came up more than a month ago before we knew for certain what was going to happen. We only learned that we wouldn't be getting into the apartment on dec 2.

So you've had almost two weeks and the only thing that has become available is this friends' house - sounds to me like you've not got many options, live there on her terms and conditions or get a motel.

 

[Magic Mom]

You each own 90 pairs of underwear and socks? And clothes to last you 90 days with no laundry? You must have huge closets and dressers!

I saw that too. Who owns 90 pairs of underwear?? And where do you store 90 pairs of dirty underwear if you aren't doing laundry for 90 days.......

 

[kaseyC]

No, it's only one bedroom.

Like if we moved into this other person's place, it doesn't seem like it would bother me as much. Partially because they're not looking for a room-mate to get money out of it. And would be willing to settle on a couple hundred for rent and extra for utilities.

This person sees "room-mate=$$$". She's been complaining about how sour things went with the first person. (the girl would let her b/f sleep over and let him stay even if she wasn't home, eat more than what she would buy at the grocery store). So it just doesn't seem right that she's pre-accusing us of things because her last room-mate did that to her. We had a room mate for about a month before she skipped out on us. After that I told Kari no more room-mates, I don't like the idea of some one else living with us. And I don't like having to live with some one else. Me and Kari have our ways, ways that've taken 5 years to kink out, but we're used to it.
And if it was a role reversal, I would only charge as much as the other person could afford. It would be my house, my responsibilities whether another person was helping me pay for things. I know I'm still going to have to pay the elec/water/trash. And we cut back on things we don't need like internet and cable tv because we can't afford another 100$ or more a month for it. We use cell phones instead of paying for a land line that we're hardly home to use. And yes, I would question the other person if the bills went up significantly. But I would think the intially 400$ would cover an extra 10-15$ in electricity/water. And whether another person was living with me, I'd still have to pay the 20-25 dollar trash fee from the city.

If me and Kari we're staying in this apartment (both working), and some one needed a place to stay for a month. I wouldn't say more than 300$, and go ahead and use the washer dryer, just don't break it. And if the bill did shoot up an extra 60$, I would go to them and say, hey what's going on here? you can either pay for your extra usuage or cut it back. And living room is free reign, kitchen is there for you to use.

I'm not going to be a stickler to some person that needs a bit of help. And when she was in the process of buying her house without a place to live, we offered her our second bedroom. Free of charge, furniture and all. It was her choice not to take us up on it.

Reality Check! It's not you and Kari!! You two are in the position of having no place to live in the next few weeks and you are really in no position of negotiating anything. You can either take the offer or take a hike, and I suggest taking a hike. IMO, considering the situation you are in and the fact that you cannot get an Apartment on your own, you are sounding very selfish.

 

[Magic Mom]

We can't make any more money until we get into this place. It's income restricted and Kari makes like 1,000 less than the minimum right now.

But if make more money, you can afford to live somewhere that isn't income restricted.

 

[Kath2003]

We can't make any more money until we get into this place. It's income restricted and Kari makes like 1,000 less than the minimum right now.

If you made more money, you wouldn't need to wait for an income restricted apartment because you'd be able to afford a regular one.

 

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[crashbb]

We can't make any more money until we get into this place. It's income restricted and Kari makes like 1,000 less than the minimum right now.

So you just need to be under the maximum to move in, but then you can make as much as you want? They don't monitor after you're there? Weird.

 

[Mom2Nick]

I'm willing to pay 400$. Like I said 300$ the first week and 50$ the two following weeks.

But she's throwing in all these other things, like if you run the electric up, then you'll owe me more.
We're not big electric users, nor water users. And trust me, we have enough clothes to last 2-3 months without doing laudry. That's including enough socks and underwear. And Kari can go to costuming to get a fresh costume every week, if it comes down to not using her W/D.

I'm making the point that our utilities are only 80$ a month on a three bedroom. I couldn't imagine her utilities costing her that much more. Or us affecting it that much more. And remember too, there's like 20$ of standard fees for having utilities on, whether you use any or not.
We've converted all of the light bulbs to CFL (I always keep the old bulbs so I can switch out before we move), and we keep the water heater temp at a lower temp to what we normally shower in. No need to having it much hotter than that. Ohh and we have a digital thermostat, and it's been cool enough that the AC hasn't even turned on in the past two months. I do try my best to conserve energy. And it's not something I'm going to stop just because I'm living with some one else.

If she's not willing to conserve energy, why should I pay for her to waste it? I know I'm not perfect at it, but I do try.

I did consider her my friend until the recent events of her and Kari happened at work. And that's when I've sorta stepped back out of it. I give Kari advice on how she should handle the situation, but I'm not going to get myself involved.
I also don't think there's a "work person" and a "at home person", she's still the same person at home and at work, there's no need for her to treat Kari any differently otherwise.

She can ask you to do and pay whatever suits her fancy - and you can just find somewhere else to go and stop trying to make her out to be a horrible person.

 

[kaseyC]

We can't make any more money until we get into this place. It's income restricted and Kari makes like 1,000 less than the minimum right now.

So you just need to be under the maximum to move in, but then you can make as much as you want? They don't monitor after you're there? Weird.

Yeah, that sounds like someone trying to scam the system.

 

[java]

. Kari's only 25. How many people do you know that were in a position to buy a house at 25, and in todays economy.

We did.

 

[pfishgirl]

Yeah, that sounds like someone trying to scam the system.

I totally Agree...

 

[Kath2003]

Yeah, that sounds like someone trying to scam the system.

And yet that someone is the same person complaining about someone trying to set the rules in their own home?

OP - you're scamming the income-assessed housing system. You're taking a home away from someone who DOES have a genuinely limited income by holding back from earning any money until they grant you a home.

 

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[bengalbelle]

And it's not just 450$ we need to move in. There's 820$ on top of that for the months rent, plus another 300$ pet fee. that's 1500 for move in. And that's the hard part. Paying the monthly rent of 820 isn't bad. It's the instant costs. Then factor in an extra 100$ for a truck rental for one day. I don't want to have to pay for a storage unit, but I don't have much of a choice, so the sooner it's closed, the better.

And on top of that, there's already 500$ in month bills that have to get paid. Yes we have credit card debt. Part of the problem of getting a mortgage, but we're working on it.

So you can't afford to pay it or you just don't want to?

 

[bengalbelle]

We did.

Us too. I was 22 and it was in 1995, when interest rates were significantly higher than they are today. We also made substantially less than we do today.

 

[pfishgirl]

We did.

Us too..
DH bought his first at 19
I was 21 when I closed on mine

 

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[Darcy03231]

No, it's only one bedroom.

Like if we moved into this other person's place, it doesn't seem like it would bother me as much. Partially because they're not looking for a room-mate to get money out of it. And would be willing to settle on a couple hundred for rent and extra for utilities.

This person sees "room-mate=$$$". She's been complaining about how sour things went with the first person. (the girl would let her b/f sleep over and let him stay even if she wasn't home, eat more than what she would buy at the grocery store). So it just doesn't seem right that she's pre-accusing us of things because her last room-mate did that to her. We had a room mate for about a month before she skipped out on us. After that I told Kari no more room-mates, I don't like the idea of some one else living with us. And I don't like having to live with some one else. Me and Kari have our ways, ways that've taken 5 years to kink out, but we're used to it.
And if it was a role reversal, I would only charge as much as the other person could afford. It would be my house, my responsibilities whether another person was helping me pay for things. I know I'm still going to have to pay the elec/water/trash. And we cut back on things we don't need like internet and cable tv because we can't afford another 100$ or more a month for it. We use cell phones instead of paying for a land line that we're hardly home to use. And yes, I would question the other person if the bills went up significantly. But I would think the intially 400$ would cover an extra 10-15$ in electricity/water. And whether another person was living with me, I'd still have to pay the 20-25 dollar trash fee from the city.

If me and Kari we're staying in this apartment (both working), and some one needed a place to stay for a month. I wouldn't say more than 300$, and go ahead and use the washer dryer, just don't break it. And if the bill did shoot up an extra 60$, I would go to them and say, hey what's going on here? you can either pay for your extra usuage or cut it back. And living room is free reign, kitchen is there for you to use.

I'm not going to be a stickler to some person that needs a bit of help. And when she was in the process of buying her house without a place to live, we offered her our second bedroom. Free of charge, furniture and all. It was her choice not to take us up on it.

So move into the other person's place and board the dog.

You seem to want to have it all your way. According to your posts you're unemployed, have a dog, and need to be out of your place in about ten days and don't have another place lined up. You've borrowed money for a down payment on another place but instead used that money for something else. It also looks from your posts that you have some credit issues that need to be cleared up before you can get another place.

You want to move into someone else's home with your dog, no less, and then tell them what you want to pay. This person is doing youa favor by allowing you to move into their home. You should be thankful that she's willing to do it. Instead you're whining because you don't think you should have to pay what she wants. If it were me I would want you to pay half of everything while you were there: mortgage, taxes, insurance, utilities, etc., and I'd want all of the money up front, with a signed contract that you'd be out in six weeks. I'd be giving up my privacy by having you there and that's worth a lot to me. Who's to say that the month to six weeks won't turn into a longer period of time that she has to put up with you. Maybe she's asking for as much as she is because she's knows what you're like and is afraid that if she agrees too little you'll move in, get comfortable and not get out. To me she's the one taking a risk here. A couple with a dog, one of which is unemployed, and have credit/money issues wouldn't make me feel real secure about being paid anything.

Sorry, but your posts make you sound very immature and ungrateful. Do the person a favor and don't move in with them.