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[cc1013]

Her house. Her rules. You can't deal with it? Find another option.......

 

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[Kath2003]

I don't want to live with this person. It's a bad choice. I know it, kari doesn't seem to get it.
And not one of you think it's a good idea either.

Well you're not attached at the hip, let her live there and you go stay with family or something with the dog since you don't have any immediate commitments.

And just for the record, we don't think it's a good idea because of your attitude, not because of the friend trying to impose the conditions of the rent in her home.

 

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[frequency]

I am finding this whole scenario hard to believe, and stomach for that matter. It sounds like you are in a bind and someone is willing to temporarily help you out. You think they are making money off your misfortune. Nothing you have posted that they are asking for is even remotely out of line, tho.

If it comes down to you just cant possibly in any way no matter what you skimp on, afford the 400 plus utilities, then ok. This person gave you an option, you can't pay for it, you dont need advise, you need money.

You say you cant get a job because of the income restriction. Well go get something for cash then, or start selling your stuff. I am guessing you have 500$ worth of stuff. Just do it. You are on the computer, so put it on craigs list.

Offer to clean houses for cheap. This is a very good way to earn some cash quickly. Walk dogs. Wrap gifts at the mall. Do something to get yourself out of this instead of expecting other people to help you.


I am assuming you will be home all day while the homes owner is at work? Have you offered to do anything to help? Cleaning the whole house, washing or cleaning out cars? Painting rooms?

I sincerely hope everything turns out ok for you all, but I am more than a little disenchanted with your attitude.

 

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[frequency]

We might not have the best of finances. But our bills get paid monthly, our rent has always been on time. And Kari is the kind of person that would never allow a debt to a friend like that.

It was her parents that gave us the 450$. When we didn't submit the apps, we used it towards the final rent here, and to getting a storage unit.

In the first paragraph you say the bills get paid, and in the second, you say you used money given to you earmarked for the deposit, for rent. What happened to Dec's rent money?

 

[Mom2Nick]

Please read this post.

I have no problem paying the 400$ she wants.
I believe it's a little over the top, based off the obvious. But not my decision to make.

Upon hearing the conversation from Kari that she had with her, She's trying to pre-accuse us of using her, because her last room-mate ran up the electric, ate her food, and invited her b/f constantly.
Every person Kari knows, she knows because they work in the same area. Plus we're not ones to have friends over very often. And the last time we did, it was her and the other couple with the baby (pre-baby though).

400$ is what Kari wanted to pay her in the beginning. Yes we need as much money as possible in order for this move to happen into a new apartment. So an extra 100$ would go a long way.
I just didn't like the sound of what Kari told me. I don't like the fact that she took one bad experience with some one, and wants to make us out to be just like the last room-mate.

You have a problem with her protecting herself? She shouldn't be renting out a room to do anybody any favors - she should be doing it to make ends meet and yeah - make a little money for herself while she puts up with the hassle of sharing her home with people that don't like her too much.

 

[Magic Mom]

And no they do not monitor your income after you move in. Most the people that live there only have one person on the lease, and then that person rents rooms to other friends. They also go by your last 2-3 pay stubs. So you work a lousy few weeks, 35hrs, bring in your app, then they average that for a year.


BTW if over 80% of tenants that rent from the community work for disney, but yet, one persons income at disney is too much by themselves, you know things are going on that shouldn't. They know it too.

SO because a lot of other people cheat the system, then it's OK?

 

[Kathi OD]

90 days worth of clothes? try three full closets. We have a nine drawer dresser in this room, full, plus a walk-in closet. 2nd bedroom contains a 6 drawer dresser, full, with a closet that's about 6 ft or so across, also little more than half full. 3rd room, two 3 drawer dressers, full, closet is half full. Don't forget the four nightstand which contain the about 60 days of underwear each.

WOW!!! Spend less on underwear and you'll have more for the apartment rent.

 

[bumbershoot]

Well you're not attached at the hip, let her live there and you go stay with family or something with the dog since you don't have any immediate commitments.

This is her partner, she said they are engaged. That's not really nice of you to tell her to have her fiancee live somewhere else. Even if this situation is crazy, it's still not nice, and wouldn't save them any money at all.



OP, I feel for you. I think you're asking too much from the person who has the house, but still, I feel for you. I've had to live with people I didn't much like.

But the thing that saves a situation like that is to spell out *as much as possible* ahead of time. Make the money so that either no one feels like they are being taken or everyone does, LOL. You can't have a situation where, like you suggested, the owner can come back a month later and say "the electric went up, you have to take care of this" because the tenant NEVER will! Especially in such a short-term situation, there's just no way you would do it. You *think* you would, but you wouldn't.

But she's throwing in all these other things, like if you run the electric up, then you'll owe me more.
We're not big electric users, nor water users.

I'm making the point that our utilities are only 80$ a month on a three bedroom. I couldn't imagine her utilities costing her that much more. Or us affecting it that much more. And remember too, there's like 20$ of standard fees for having utilities on, whether you use any or not.

If she's not willing to conserve energy, why should I pay for her to waste it? I know I'm not perfect at it, but I do try.

If you run the electric up, OF COURSE you would need to pay your share.

We rent. Right now we're in a condo, last year in an apartment, and the year before that a brand new townhouse. Before that, 3 years in an apartment (we can't settle, LOL).

In apartments we were used to nice, low bills. Those bills didn't SEEM so low, of course, when it's what we were used to. Our condo now is averaging about $50 per month (water is included in the condo dues).

Our townhouse, brand new construction, cost us $500 over a TWO MONTH period. It was sickening. Awful. We were NEVER warm in the winter, and NEVER cool in the summer. We froze and boiled all year long. There was something seriously wrong with those townhouses, the other owners agreed. Those power bills were one reason we moved, even though we thought we were going to eventually buy it (the owner is the manager of the apt complex we rented from for 3 years, and owns the condo we live in now...we're almost friends now).

So it is entirely possible that the energy use in this house is simply higher, because it is a stand-alone place with no one else to mitigate the main fees.

Has she stated that she doesn't conserve energy? Trust me, we conserved as much as possible in the townhouse, but still, $500 in 2 months...I still feel sick thinking about it.

You might live there, you HAVE TO pay your share.

Like if we moved into this other person's place, it doesn't seem like it would bother me as much. Partially because they're not looking for a room-mate to get money out of it. And would be willing to settle on a couple hundred for rent and extra for utilities.

This person sees "room-mate=$$$". She's been complaining about how sour things went with the first person. (the girl would let her b/f sleep over and let him stay even if she wasn't home, eat more than what she would buy at the grocery store). So it just doesn't seem right that she's pre-accusing us of things because her last room-mate did that to her. We had a room mate for about a month before she skipped out on us. After that I told Kari no more room-mates, I don't like the idea of some one else living with us.

You *think* you would be willing to settle for a low amount, but you don't really know what you would do.

Read that second paragraph again.

Kari's friend was BURNED by her roomie. Seriously, those things her roommate did were extremely uncool. Boyfriends do NOT stay over (nor do girlfriends) unless it's OK with everyone. Boy/girlfriends do NOT eat food that doesn't belong to them or their partners. Kari's friend was absolutely burned, and it's OK that her friend is wary of it happening again.

Read what you said about your experience with a roomie. YOu say that it's not fair for the home-owner to be wary b/c of her experience, but you yourself are wary b/c of YOUR experience! You're doing the same thing as she is, so you don't get to be annoyed at her for setting boundaries.

You ALL need boundaries and rules, it's the ONLY way that will make this situation at all possible.

But Kari doesn't make enough money on her own, and it would be her parents co-signing with her, and because they have no monthly income, it became hard to qualify for a mortgage.
Plus Kari wants to move north next year, but wanted the experience as coordinator before leaving full-time.


...How many people do you know that were in a position to buy a house at 25, and in todays economy.

Kari is NOT in a position to buy a house, OP. If you have to co-sign, you're not ready. Sure, maybe you can, though with co-signers without a monthly income it seems that she's even less ready, but really you shouldn't. So, and believe me, this is coming from a renter not a holier than thou mortgage-holder, she is NOT in a position to buy a house.


Also, if she wants to move out of state (I assume), WHY is she wanting to buy a house????


We like having our space. 3 bedrooms are lovely. We rented a 3 bedroom when it was just the two of us (OK so there was an embryo and a cat involved, but just two of us who needed a room at the time, LOL), it was great. We also have a lot of stuff, as it sounds like you do. You have lots of furniture, at the very least! I understand wanting room to spread out. But I'm not sure you need to look at a 3 bedroom right now. Perhaps if you looked at one bedrooms right now it would be better? Throw some of those clothes into storage along with the huge dresser, downsize the living space right now, save up.


I think that if you agree to rules, boundaries, and everything else you ALL need to feel safe in your space, this has a chance at working. And if it does NOT work, you ALL need a plan for that, too. I had to totally break a lease with a roomie once because we absolutely did not work, thanks to us not setting down rules ahead of time. We disagreed on changes that happened, she said that her new boyfriend would just stay in her room so he didin't need to pay rent, but he used the kitchen, bathroom (and he was FURRY!), and living room, and I absolutely insisted he pay a third. Ooh they didn't like that, but it happened, because he was USING a third of the place. Ultimately though it didn't work and we all left.

YOu guys have to set up exit strategies, don't put what you think you would do if you owned a house onto someone who DOES own a house, and it *might* work.


But I would suggest looking into smaller apartments first.

Good luck!

 

[Kath2003]

This is her partner, she said they are engaged. That's not really nice of you to tell her to have her fiancee live somewhere else. Even if this situation is crazy, it's still not nice, and wouldn't save them any money at all.

The fiancee is happy to rent the room from her workmate, and it's a short-term solution to an immediate problem. It's not nice but the whole situation is not nice (nor is the OP's attitude toward the workmate). The fiancee clearly has to stay in the area because of her job; the OP is a little more flexible.

 

[Doesney]

You talk about Kari and Kiani like we all know what the hell is going on. Do your "friend" a favor, don't move in.

 

[ROIE01581]

where do you keep 90 X2 dirty undies. The room will smell great when you move out.
I would suggest you do your laundry outside of the house, so you don't get a defung bill when you move out.

 

[Barbossa]

I rented a room from a friend many years ago, we ended up as dire enemies. Not recommended IMO.

 

[disykat]

From what I'm reading, we are apparently discussing a Disney employee. I am not favorably impressed, nor would anyone from Disney be if they are reading. If you care about your partner I'd be a little more careful about what you are posting on a public message board.

Someone has offered you a spot to live, take it or not. Trying to take the place, but give them less money than they are "charging" is not an option.

I think what she is offering sounds more than fair, but if she's smart she'll run far from having a tenant who hasn't even moved in and already doesn't want to pay their share.

 

[Anne34]

She made the suggestion one night to us. Never said a price or anything else like that, till now.
I don't like her because of all the problems she's caused Kari at work. She's very much a talker, and doesn't want to take responsibility for her actions when she's done something wrong. She's an OK person in doses. And we've joked about how her and Kari would probably want to kill each by the end of this.
I find she's highly jealous of what Kari has gotten in two years, everything she has in the area, and it's taken her 8 years with the company. There was one point where she was blaming Kari for making her look bad, when Kari was just doing her job, and doing what she would normally do. It came down to like 3 managers saying you need to reconcille or one of you has to leave the area.

No she doesn't have a yard, so there's no priviladges of even allowing the dog to have a bit of running space.
And I could deal with living out of just the room. Most food can be made in the microwave, and we have a mini fridge.

We don't have all the money in the world. And it's going to take money to take care of the initial problem. Kari's parents already gave us 450$ for the deposit, but when we didn't use it for that, we used it towards Dec rent. I don't know how willing they would be to give us another 450$ for a deposit again. Plus the rent money and pet fee that we have to come up with to move in. Tack on another hundred or so for a rental truck to get it all there. We're doing small trips because the place is right around the corner. But it'll be more economical to get a truck for one day and do a big move in.
Ohh yeah, there's an extra 150$ that is due for the storage unit.
I appreciate the fact she's willing to open her house to us. But if we'll be the same off by staying in a motel and boarding the dog for a month, I'd rather do that than have her and Kari kill each other. I don't mind that Kari wants to hang on to the friendship even if the work thing isn't going so well. But I don't think it's going to last, especially if we move in.

I think you need a serious reality check!! You can't board a dog less than $10/day = $300/mo and you would still need to find somewhere to live!! At your friends house do you really think you'll be able to live in one room with 2 ppl and a dog?! You really don't like this person and have a bad feeling going in -- you need to make other arrangement. Maybe you can move in with your girlfriend's parents. I really don't see why they need to bail you out all the time -- get a 2nd job or something to tide you over for the time being. (I really don't know your story -- just what I read here -- sorry if you already are working OT)

 

[luvindisneyworld]

If the friend knows whats good for her she will retract her offer for you two to move in.
From the way it sounds to me I would not let you move in with me if you agreed to pay all of my bills .
This is a Disaster waiting to happen.
Do everyone of you a favor and find somewhere else to live.

Oh and 400.00 a month is nothing.
I have a friend wanting to move in with me and DH for a few months until she finds a house to buy and we all talked about it and she will be giving us 500.00 a month and thats just for her not 2 extra paople and definetely not a dog too. That will include everything even food if she wants to eat here with us every night. She is paying over 800.00 a month right now for a one bedroom apartment and utitilies so why would she not want to save over 300.00 a month? If she acted anything like you are acting already this would not even have been discussed actually she would not be a friend of mine.

I think you need a Big reality check for sure.

 

[Tikitoi]

I hope you have rethought this idea of moving in with someone that it already seems you are at odds with. It will only get worse if you do move in.