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I can not also believe that she let her 15 year old wear that short dress to the party. Her boyfriend was right in his comment about her looking like a stripper.

Ummmm.....I don't think Jo can sing! The 1st time I heard her a couple of seasons ago I cringed.

The last scenes of the episode when they were eating were great. I can understand why Tamra was shocked she was out of town while Jeff was in the hospital. But then I can also understand why Gretchen would need some time away, but to go on vacation....I'm not sure on that.
I agree with everything you've written, though I think that the dress on the 15yo went far beyond stripper to ho-dom. It was an ugly, unflattering dress that should have been kept for clubbing and not for a 15yo.

I know I wouldn't have gone on vacation if my DH was in the hospital, especially in ICU. However, I also agree with the next poster who mentioned about his kids being there in her place.
Regarding Gretchen and the 4th of July weekend with her folks.. She said that Jeff's kids were in town from Michigan and with him at the hospital. I know that if I were one of Jeff's kids, I would probably prefer to have my own time with my Dad rather than have to interact with his new girlfriend who probably isn't much older than they are.

Remember the animosity between her and his daughter over buying the daughter a car? Gretchen told her "get a job" the daughter replied, "I'll get a job when you get a job" which lead to the discussion about Gretchen taking care of Jeff 24-7. While I agree that the point is valid, the message does not need to be coming from Dad's girlfriend but rather from Dad himself.

Also the phone call that Gretchen made to the one child seemed forced. She ended the call with "I love you" but it didn't sound as if there was much warmth coming from the other end.

I think it is wise of Gretchen to give Jeff's kids their own time with their Dad.
I've gotta believe that I wouldn't want my Dad's tart of a GF hovering over his hospital bed if I am there to visit him. Plus, Gretchen was with her family. It's not like she was away with her friends at clubs and such.

What is with Lynne not wanting to talk about her kids? When I get together with my friends, we talk about our kids... not exclusively, but we bring each other UTD on what is going on in their/our lives. It's not like we drone on and on endlessly about our kids, they just happen to come up in conversation. I don't think these HWs drone on about their kids either.

I see Lynne going the way of Quinn next season... with her bratty and spoiled kids.
 
Ummmm.....I don't think Jo can sing! The 1st time I heard her a couple of seasons ago I cringed.
I agree! I couldn't stand Jo when she was an original housewife. It's even worse when they keep trotting her back on as a special guest. One thing I can say...her singing is a lot better than Kim on Real Housewives of Atlanta.:scared1: I don't know what fantasy world she is living in that makes her think she is a singer. :rotfl2:

Regarding Gretchen and the 4th of July weekend with her folks.. She said that Jeff's kids were in town from Michigan and with him at the hospital. I know that if I were one of Jeff's kids, I would probably prefer to have my own time with my Dad rather than have to interact with his new girlfriend who probably isn't much older than they are.

Remember the animosity between her and his daughter over buying the daughter a car? Gretchen told her "get a job" the daughter replied, "I'll get a job when you get a job" which lead to the discussion about Gretchen taking care of Jeff 24-7. While I agree that the point is valid, the message does not need to be coming from Dad's girlfriend but rather from Dad himself.

Also the phone call that Gretchen made to the one child seemed forced. She ended the call with "I love you" but it didn't sound as if there was much warmth coming from the other end.

I think it is wise of Gretchen to give Jeff's kids their own time with their Dad.

It was obvious from last night's show that Jeff's kids really appreciate Gretchen. And even love her. They really were very grateful for her taking care of their Dad. I didn't see animosity between Gretchen and Jeff's daughter...more like a typical teenage attitude to me.

And I agree with Gretchen...until someone is in her shoes, don't judge. I don't think I could leave my sick husband in icu, even for a couple days. But, that is easier said than done. I have no idea what Gretchen is going through. It sounds like she is a 24/7 nursemaid when Jeff is at home. That would be physically, mentally and emotionally exhausting for anyone and I could totally understand that she needs a break.
 
Hey all! Can I join in? This show is one of my guilty pleasures!:rolleyes1

I cannot stand the new one Lynne. I want to give her a haircut, take the tupperware containers that she calls her cheast out, and buy her some sunscreen. Also, they all need to lay off the tooth whitener. Last night was like watching that episode of Friends where Ross used too much whitener and his teeth were glowing?:rotfl:
Oh- and that dress, if you could call it that, was a horror. Her butt cheeks were sticking out of the bottom! Who would think that is appropriate?!!!!!
I also do not like her attitude. "I am sick of kids!" What a nasty woman.

Vicki needs to take about 7 valium. You can see that she is so insecure. I almost feel bad for her but she is so mean to everyone. Especially her husband. That poor man. I can't stand that she acts like the queen.

Tamra comes off as so phony. I am sure she loves her kids but perhaps she should actually parent them. Oh- and grabbing Simon's "business" over and over on that lake trip......blech! I am so sure that your friends and your kids loved every minute of that.:sad2:

Jeanna- I actually really like her. She seems to know when to keep quiet and also how to get her point across without acting like a screaming mimi. She seems like someone you could actually be friends with. Her dd is cute too. Maybe a little spoiled but she seems fun.

Gretchen- I think she is very pretty. She seems to have a lot of free time for someone that is taking care of a terminally ill person. She must be doing something right though because his kids seem to be very grateful for her. I can't judge her because who knows what her situation is really like? I hope I never ever do.
 
It was obvious from last night's show that Jeff's kids really appreciate Gretchen. And even love her. They really were very grateful for her taking care of their Dad. I didn't see animosity between Gretchen and Jeff's daughter...more like a typical teenage attitude to me.

And I agree with Gretchen...until someone is in her shoes, don't judge. I don't think I could leave my sick husband in icu, even for a couple days. But, that is easier said than done. I have no idea what Gretchen is going through. It sounds like she is a 24/7 nursemaid when Jeff is at home. That would be physically, mentally and emotionally exhausting for anyone and I could totally understand that she needs a break.

I really agree with this! They treated Gretchen very poorly. Luckily, my DH is healthy; however, I really can see where she may need a break to spend some time with her parents.

I can't believe Tamara's reaction. Well, really I can. Her biggest problem in life seems to be how she is being upstaged by Gretchen at this moment!;)
 

I'm over Lynne. Her and her whole family. Not to be mean but if she's so "obsessed" with staying young then why doesn't she cut her hair?!? It's SO dried out!

Also, the episode with Vicki and Don going on vacation with Tamra and Simon. I would've been so annoyed spending my 10th anniversary with them. Vicki was trying desperately to get attention from Simon (when Tamra, Simon, and Vicki were on the front of the boat??) and hearing about another couples problems the whole time I'm trying to have a romantic weekend would be awful. It reminds me of the SNL skit about the couple who should be divorced :)

I'm in total agreement with Tamra about what she said at dinner. We can all say what we would "never do" if not in a situation but spending a holiday (even if it was just a weekend or long weekend) on vacation having a blast while the man I love is doing horrible laying in a hospital bed (and he hasn't been in there for years) would not happen. Yes it would be nice to have a day away, maybe go to the spa or something like that but there is no way I could go away and have a great time for a few days knowing he was laying there suffering without me all that time. But that's just my opinion (and you know what they say about opinions :) ).
 
Oh- I forgot to add. I can't stand Jo! I wish they would stop giving her guest appearances. She is a dim witted twit! She also cannot sing!!!!!!
 
Jeanna- I actually really like her. She seems to know when to keep quiet and also how to get her point across without acting like a screaming mimi. She seems like someone you could actually be friends with. Her dd is cute too. Maybe a little spoiled but she seems fun.

Gretchen- I think she is very pretty. She seems to have a lot of free time for someone that is taking care of a terminally ill person. She must be doing something right though because his kids seem to be very grateful for her. I can't judge her because who knows what her situation is really like? I hope I never ever do.


I like Jeanna, too. i'm not understanding this big ordeal with Frankie and why Vicky overreacted.

Gretchen does seem to be out doing things. She had that party, is going out to dinner a lot with friends and the July 4th thing. I'm no sure if I am buying his kids loving her so much. And i can not stand the way her voice sounds when she's talking to Jeff on the phone. She talks to him in baby talk. But they all seem happy and Jeff wasn't telling her not to go-that we saw. I also noticed how many times she said "I flew out Jeff's kids" as if she was bragging about it. And my final thought... I heard her say that was her parents 3rd house(on the lake) so she must come from money.
 
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I like Jeanna, too. i'm not understanding this big ordeal with Frankie and why Vicky overreacted.
Cause it's Vickie! Her picture is in the dictionary as the definition of overdramatic. :scared1: She is one of the most insecure people I have ever seen. That whole luncheon scene with Brianna last night. She has to prove how much she loves her daughter by "slitting her throat". Again, Vickie has to be a martyr. And nobody could possible love someone, sacrifice as much or do better or be better than Vickie. She is a whack job. Did you hear her comment while Brianna was giving blood..."We're saving people". Uh, no. You are just sitting on your fat butt because you are so vain you have to get chemicals injected into your face to stop wrinkles and now can't donate blood. Newsflash Vickie(and to all the other housewives) you still look your age! Stop wasting your money. Other than Tamra, I think they all look like 40+ year old housewives. Seriously, I would say, unless Vickie is really in her 60's, she is wasting her time. She looks like she is about 48 years old. And for Lynne, the same. And I totally agree about her dried out hair. Cut it off!

I found it ironic that Lynne's oldest daughter hates the way she looks. And Lynne can't even see that her obsession with looking younger and fear of aging has caused these same insecurites and fears in her own daughter.
 
I found it ironic that Lynne's oldest daughter hates the way she looks. And Lynne can't even see that her obsession with looking younger and fear of aging has caused these same insecurites and fears in her own daughter.
BINGO! We've got a winner here!

That sums up Lynne's family in a nutshell.
 
Gretchen does seem to be out doing things. She had that party, is going out to dinner a lot with friends and the July 4th thing. I'm no sure if I am buying his kids loving her so much. And i can not stand the way her voice sounds when she's talking to Jeff on the phone. She talks to him in baby talk. But they all seem happy and Jeff wasn't telling her not to go-that we saw. I also noticed how many times she said "I flew out Jeff's kids" as if she was bragging about it. And my final thought... I heard her say that was her parents 3rd house(on the lake) so she must come from money.

The baby talk drives me crazy!! When they went on the carriage ride in IN and he said "this young lady must be for us" and she responds in a baby voice "Hee-Hee!".

And, yeah, you mean you flew out Jeff's kids with Jeff's money ;)
 
Did you notice the couple of times that they show Lynne with her dds she has said things to them like "Are you going to eat all that? You're going to get fat!" :headache: She is such a jerk! She doesn't even look young! She looks like a shriveled raisin!
 
I really hope Lynne does not last long on the show. And that 15 year old daughter was not dressed like a stripper. She was dressed like a hooker! Who would let their child go out of the house like that.

Jeanna is my favorite housewife. She has her moments when she is not at her best, but don't we all have those moments? But she seems to really love her kids and wants whats best for them. While Vicki also seems to love her kids, she just can't cut that umbilical cord...
 
I agree! I couldn't stand Jo when she was an original housewife. It's even worse when they keep trotting her back on as a special guest. One thing I can say...her singing is a lot better than Kim on Real Housewives of Atlanta.:scared1: I don't know what fantasy world she is living in that makes her think she is a singer. :rotfl2:



It was obvious from last night's show that Jeff's kids really appreciate Gretchen. And even love her. They really were very grateful for her taking care of their Dad. I didn't see animosity between Gretchen and Jeff's daughter...more like a typical teenage attitude to me.

I probably shouldn't have commented on this because I haven't seen this week's episode. It seemed most of the previous comments were on the previous week's episode and I thought that it is hard on the kids to have Dad's SO be someone relatively new on the scene and almost your age.

For any of you that have Brighthouse or TW On Demand, Jo has a music video currently out on the Music ON Demand channel and it certainly did not warrant hearing twice! I almost missed it because it is listed as J. De la Rosa.
 
Hi all! I'm subbing this thread because I can't always keep up on the epis and you guys are doing a great job keeping me up to date!

I really haven't had a chance to see the new girl in action- just her kids- WHY are her kids being focused on so much? I could care less! If I wanted that I'd be watching THE HILLS or something! I'm a housewife, hello! I wanna watch housewives!

I used to like Vicky, the first couple seasons, but she's just gotten out of hand.

I LOVE Jeanna, she's just an awesome person, I'm so glad her and her husband are seperated.

I didn't like Tamra but she's growing on me. Although I don't like that she told her daughter to shut up when they were moving the workout room. I hope she just said that in a way dd didn't hear.

I'll miss Laurie.

Didn't even realize Quinn was gone! I just don't think she was a good fit for the show. Maybe her own show....

I like Gretchen. She seems very down to earth. It can't be easy watching someone you know w/a horrible disease and not knowing whether it's going to kill him or not.
 
I'm sorry but why does Vicki thinks that everyone needs her "approval" before they can join her little clique? She's so annoying.
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Missed the show this week, but I have to agree with this 110%.. I simply can't stand Vicki.. :headache: I don't know why her DH hasn't ditched her by now.. Her only interests are her kids; money; and being the center of attention at all times.. How dare someone call Gretchen to see how Jeff was doing with Vicki sitting at the table!! Certainly they know her well enough to realize that Gretchen and Jeff's "little" problem of him dealing with a terminal illness should not interfere with her being "front and center"..:headache: I think she needs to get whacked in the head with a few more footballs.. Maybe it will jog her brain back into reality..:rolleyes1
 
I really hope Lynne does not last long on the show. And that 15 year old daughter was not dressed like a stripper. She was dressed like a hooker! Who would let their child go out of the house like that.

The best part is it was Lynne's dress.:eek:
 
The best part is it was Lynne's dress.:eek:

I know! I thought the same thing when she said that it was her dress. Can you imagine with her huge fake ****s oozing out of that dress?? I love my body and how I look in clothes. It doesn't mean I need to find something skin tight and extremely revealing to show the world and get attention :confused3

Oh, how glad I am that the O.C. wives are back!! :rotfl: NY and Atlanta NEVER entertained me as much as they do!
 
I'm sorry but I had to LMAO at Lynne's daughters catwalk inside the clothing store.
 
I really hope Lynne does not last long on the show. And that 15 year old daughter was not dressed like a stripper. She was dressed like a hooker! Who would let their child go out of the house like that.

Jeanna is my favorite housewife. She has her moments when she is not at her best, but don't we all have those moments? But she seems to really love her kids and wants whats best for them. While Vicki also seems to love her kids, she just can't cut that umbilical cord...

I am with you on Lynne. The older daughter is very rude and self centered.
When she started telling them at the table what to talk about. I do not see her lasting more than this year.

I also like Jeanna. She seems to at least try and make her kids not be rude spoiled brats.

Vicki I think has control issues.
 
Love this show!!!

Question-I have not watched all the seasons, so maybe I missed something, but what happened between Frankie and Vickie? It seems Vickie bought a house from Jeanna and took Frankie as a tenent? But what happened between Frankie and Vickie? Did Frankie not pay rent?
 

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