2011 DDP Rates - Is It Still Worth It?

You are correct that it depends on each family's situation - this year it worked for us!We did the regular DDP for 11 days and saved $514.65 - that is $47 dollars a day - (I think 15+ dollars per person per day is significant - basically we each got a free QS every day:cool1:) that money we saved help us by our APs:woohoo:. I will continue to save our receipts and make sure it is still working for us. When it no longer works, I will leave it behind...Cheers!

Honestly, I'm happy that is was such a big savings for you. I just think you are the rarity. We know the exact amount of "value" you got out of your TS meals -- $1200.
We know how much the DDP cost you during the peak season (It was $46.99 pp in 2010): $1,550
You saved $514.65 -- So you are indicating that, in total, you got about $2,065 of food, for the price of $1,550
So you are saying that over 11 days, you got $865 in "value" from CS and snacks.
I think most people would have trouble obtaining that much value from CS and snacks -- Even if you averaged pretty expensive snacks, at $3.50 apiece-- 33 snacks X 3.5 = $115 in snacks. So you are saying you obtained $750 in value from counter service meals -- With 33 counterservice meals, it means you *averaged* $22.70 per counter service meal. I think most people would have trouble averaging $22.70 per counter service meal.
 
The DDP works for some, not for others. It's up to each family to decide for themselves what works for them. It's good to see examples of how it works and how it doesn't work.

We look at our plans for every vacation and try to determine whether or not it works for us. Sometimes it fits and saves us money, sometimes we would break even and sometimes we save money paying OOP. There are lots of different factors.

Discussion is fine, but nobody should ever have to defend why or how it works (or doesn't work) for them and I'm seeing some of that in this thread.

If the debate continues, this thread will be closed as it's the Disney Restaurant Dining Plan board, not the debate board.
 
Honestly, I'm happy that is was such a big savings for you. I just think you are the rarity. We know the exact amount of "value" you got out of your TS meals -- $1200.
We know how much the DDP cost you during the peak season (It was $46.99 pp in 2010): $1,550
You saved $514.65 -- So you are indicating that, in total, you got about $2,065 of food, for the price of $1,550
So you are saying that over 11 days, you got $865 in "value" from CS and snacks.
I think most people would have trouble obtaining that much value from CS and snacks -- Even if you averaged pretty expensive snacks, at $3.50 apiece-- 33 snacks X 3.5 = $115 in snacks. So you are saying you obtained $750 in value from counter service meals -- With 33 counterservice meals, it means you *averaged* $22.70 per counter service meal. I think most people would have trouble averaging $22.70 per counter service meal.

Thanks for being happy for me. I am just trying to show others how it worked for us and may work for them depending on their eating habits.

I see where there is some of the mix up: we are DVC and the cost of the plan was $1385.67 so it was more a $700 dollar value from CS and snacks....so subtracting $115 from $700 and dividing it by 33 you get $17.72 ($5 less than your *averaged* amount). I have several receipts where the cost for the three of us was $50 - $55, sometimes $48, once or twice more than $55; so we did average around the $17 mark. I can actually give you the exact amount spent on CS and snacks this evening when I am at home and have my journals. :)
 
Going on first family vacation in May 2011.Planning on multiple character meals or buffets(our 2 girls are very picky) but not sure if ddp is right for us,have thought abt just putting money on gift cards so I don't have to worry abt it when we're there. You seem very efficient and knowledgable any suggestions? All help is GREATLY appreciated!!!
 

Going on first family vacation in May 2011.Planning on multiple character meals or buffets(our 2 girls are very picky) but not sure if ddp is right for us,have thought abt just putting money on gift cards so I don't have to worry abt it when we're there. You seem very efficient and knowledgable any suggestions? All help is GREATLY appreciated!!!

If your girls are 3-9, then the DDP is still a pretty good value. You may save only marginally on the adults, but you can save significantly on the children. (percentage-wise).

If your children are just barely over 9, then the opposite is true --
Why pay $46 for a picky 10-year-old? Of course, you might also be stuck paying the adult prices at the buffets for a 10-year-old... and that's an awful lot to spend for a picky eater who is just going to have a small plate of Mac & Cheese (both my kids have tiny appetites). So if this is the case, I may minimize the use of the buffets, and just do the cheaper buffets.

But overall, the best use of the DDP is with children aged 3-9, and lots of buffets or expensive TS dinners. The plan is designed to provide some value using the dinner buffet as the TS meal.

But I will stress the value of the *dinner* buffet. If you are doing breakfast or lunch buffets, it can be more efficient to just pay OOP.
If you are just doing a couple of character buffets, and prefer more flexibility with your other means, then you may be more efficient with a gift card and OOP.

But -- if you have kids 3-9, and you want to do several character dinners, then you will save money with the DDP.
 
We have never had a problem breaking even on the dining plan, and I always add it up before we go. However, even if we were not going to save anything, I agree with other posters that it helps to avoid sticker shock a little. I just don't even look at prices when my meal is already paid for. We always get one 2 credit meal(usually California Grill) and eat at at least one more expesive TS meal. For CS, we eat at places like Sunshine Seasons, Flame Tree BBQ and Starring Rolls, And, since our group tends to get a lot of snacks and drinks, we always use our snack credit for one of the pricer items. The big thing I don't get is, why don't people just add up what they think they will spend and only get the DDP if it works for them? Nobody is forcing you to buy it! If you don't want to do TS every day or you don't like dessert, then don't buy the plan. Also, if you're only going to do non-character buffets, it doesn't really work out too well. I like to get a drink, appetizer, entree and dessert, even though I will waste some of it, because I like to taste different things, but if you don't or wasting food bothers you, just don't get the plan.
 
If your girls are 3-9, then the DDP is still a pretty good value. You may save only marginally on the adults, but you can save significantly on the children. (percentage-wise).

If your children are just barely over 9, then the opposite is true --
Why pay $46 for a picky 10-year-old? Of course, you might also be stuck paying the adult prices at the buffets for a 10-year-old... and that's an awful lot to spend for a picky eater who is just going to have a small plate of Mac & Cheese (both my kids have tiny appetites). So if this is the case, I may minimize the use of the buffets, and just do the cheaper buffets.

But overall, the best use of the DDP is with children aged 3-9, and lots of buffets or expensive TS dinners. The plan is designed to provide some value using the dinner buffet as the TS meal.

But I will stress the value of the *dinner* buffet. If you are doing breakfast or lunch buffets, it can be more efficient to just pay OOP.
If you are just doing a couple of character buffets, and prefer more flexibility with your other means, then you may be more efficient with a gift card and OOP.

But -- if you have kids 3-9, and you want to do several character dinners, then you will save money with the DDP.

Girls are 6&8 and we're doing mostly character dinners,so with that in mind we were leaning heavily towards ddp at least for this trip. My husband thanks you for your help as I'm driving him crazy with the what if and what do you think questions I keep throwing at him. All he cares abt is if he gets to eat at least once in a restaurant w/out princesses or Pooh!:upsidedow
 
With kids the DDP is usually the better savings, but every family needs to look at it individually. As the recent discussion showed - one family would experience marginal savings and the other family saved a lot more. It's really up to the individual family and their dining habits. :goodvibes
 
just ran the totals on our recent DxDP weekend...paid $288 for the plan, receipts for food & tax covered by the plan totalled $470. So even on next year's DxDP prices, we'd still have very substantial savings (same scenario next year would be pay $316...receipts of $470: that's very good savings)
 
I think the ddp is such a good deal!
Okay, it's $42/day for me.
If i eat a breakfast CS at Pepper Market, it's about $15 (omelet/homefries/muffin/2 drinks)
If i eat dinner anywhere nice, the entree is around $27-29, plus $3 for something to drink. plus TAX. what % is tax?
Then i buy a snack for $4
*right there that's a savings of $12/day. not including if i decided to get a dessert at dinner which would run about $7-10. then i'd have a savings of around $20/day.

$20X6 - $120 X 2 = $240 savings for just dh and me. and then of course the savings for my kids.
 
I saved money on the dxdp but I spent more money than I would have had I paid out of pocket. This is is because I ordered things I would not normally order like 4 apps and 4 dessert. Normally I would order 2 apps to share and maybe 1 dessert (or no dessert) to share. It was fun being able to try different apps and desserts, but what I saved on food I spent on gratuity because or total bill was so much higher ordering all that food. Not to mention we felt like we needed to eat 2 ts a day to get or money out of the plan. I think I spent about $70.00 a day on gratuity. I'm not really sure the dxdp is better than paying out of pocket.
 
So this is our first trip to WDW as a family 2 adults, 9 & 7 y.o. boys who eat a lot in quantity but not variety. And I'm still trying to figure out all the acronyms so forgive me if I spell something out I'm not supposed to.

Trying to figure out if a Dining Plan is worth it. I was most recently leaning toward the Deluxe just because it seems to cover everything and I wouldn't have to worry about what to eat when and where, but now I'm not so sure.

We would probably do OK eating at Counter Service most of the time, and was initially looking at the Quick Service Plan, however, we want to do a couple of character meals and the Luau Show (which I know is 2 table service) and looking at the out of pocket prices on those it seemed like the plan would save you money. But the regular plan, with juggling table service credits and such seemed like it wasn't worth it.

I guess I'm concerned more about the exclusions and what I won't be able to get because if we get the deluxe plan I certainly won't want to have to pay anything out of pocket, but if I'm excluded from something and I have to pay out of pocket I will definitely be getting the short end of the stick.

Any advice would be appreciated. Oh and this will be 8 days straddled around Easter (no choice on that).
 
I haven't gone through and read all of the posts here (where many of my questions may be answered) but I have many questions about the DDP!

We go every year for 8 or 9 days and we tend to budget a certain amount per person per day for food (similiar to a per diem) just so we have an idea of how much cash we need to bring for meals. The quote that I got for the DDP is $319.52 cheaper than what we would bring cash wise.

My questions to you are:
  • Is it truly worth paying the money upfront?
  • Is it confusing to use when figuring out your credits or points?
  • What are the pros and cons of the DDP?

We are a family of four (me, DH, DD- 17, DS- 12) and we typically do one TS and CS per day plus a snack...

:thanks::thanks::thanks:Thanks so much in advance for your assistance!!!!!!!!
 
So this is our first trip to WDW as a family 2 adults, 9 & 7 y.o. boys who eat a lot in quantity but not variety. And I'm still trying to figure out all the acronyms so forgive me if I spell something out I'm not supposed to.

Trying to figure out if a Dining Plan is worth it. I was most recently leaning toward the Deluxe just because it seems to cover everything and I wouldn't have to worry about what to eat when and where, but now I'm not so sure.

We would probably do OK eating at Counter Service most of the time, and was initially looking at the Quick Service Plan, however, we want to do a couple of character meals and the Luau Show (which I know is 2 table service) and looking at the out of pocket prices on those it seemed like the plan would save you money. But the regular plan, with juggling table service credits and such seemed like it wasn't worth it.

I guess I'm concerned more about the exclusions and what I won't be able to get because if we get the deluxe plan I certainly won't want to have to pay anything out of pocket, but if I'm excluded from something and I have to pay out of pocket I will definitely be getting the short end of the stick.

Any advice would be appreciated. Oh and this will be 8 days straddled around Easter (no choice on that).

The typical reasoning with the Deluxe plan is that of the 3 meals a day you would need 2 to be table service (on average) to make it worth while or eat a signature 2 TS meal everyday.
 
As to "everything" being covered under the deluxe plan. You get 3 meal credits per day, plus 2 snacks, but the resort mug. The meal credits all include appetizer and dessert. So it's true, that you probably will find just about everything covered. That said, even with the deluxe plan, there are some exclusions (not many). For example, you will find that some snacks are not covered. It's recently been reported that the Ice Cream Sandwich, as Main Street Bakery, are no longer covered.
Finally, it is technically possible to use as many as 6 meal credits per day -- If you did a signature breakfast, lunch and dinner! Even the deluxe plan, wouldn't give you enough credits to do all that.
But other than these footnotes, yes, the Deluxe Plan covers everything.

My analysis did lead me to believe that the Deluxe plan gives you value, IF you really want a LOT of table meals, and you want at least some appetizers. (Which is my personal preference on vacation).

I find the deluxe is a very good value, IF you are going to use the bulk of your 3 meal credits per day and you are using at least 2/3rd for TS meals. (You can leave a few over and still have value).
So, you get great value if you do 1 signature meal + 1 TS meal per day..
Or 3 TS meals..
Or even 2 TS meals + 1 CS meal.

Look at it this way, the Dx costs about $30 more than the basic plan.
The basic plan comes with 2 meals per day -- 1 TS and 1 CS. (and no appetizers)
With the deluxe -- For an extra $30, you are getting appetizers.... 1 extra meal, and the ability to convert that CS meal into a TS meal. For me, personally, that's a good value for $30.

As to the pros and cons, of juggling the points, etc, on the basic plan. It's really not that hard, especially if you plan it in advance --- Make advance reservations for your TS meals, and use your CS meals as you go. I don't think it's so confusing, but it can definitely be confining.

ksb -- You mentioned you have 8 nights. So if you want exactly 8 TS credits and 8 CS credits per person, the basic dining plan can work. But if you actually only wanted 5 TS meals, and 13 CS meals, then you would find better value paying OOP for everything.
If it's just a matter of wanted 1 or 2 extra TS meals, you may be best off paying for the dining plan, and then paying OOP for those 1 or 2 TS meals. But as the number of TS meals you want increases, the Deluxe plan starts to become the way to go.
The basic DDP does limit your flexibility-- and for most adults, the savings is about $5-$10 per day --- So is $5-$10 per person, per day, worth limiting your flexibility? That's up to each individual.


As to PixieDust, is it worth paying up front? Many people think so. If it was really paying upfront, I would agree. But the reality is, you are still paying for your tips OOP. And there is a good chance you would still add items OOP. (For example -- If you want coffee and a bagel for breakfast, plus a CS lunch, plus a TS dinner, you will have to pay OOP for 1 of those breakfast items).

For me, the sole question with the DDP and DxDP, is will it save you money, for things that you want.

For adults on the meal plan -- The basic plan has loads of desserts -- Really up to 3 desserts per day, if you use your snack credit for a dessert. The DDP also assumes you get fairly expensive entrees or character meals.
So if you want all those desserts, and planned on character meals plus $30 entrees, etc... Then the DDP absolutely will save you money.
But... if you weren't going to eat all those desserts, if you were going to get a lot of $12-$18 entrees... Then it would be cheaper just to pay OOP.

A word on kids -- If your kids eat off the children's menu, and they are under 9 -- Then the DDP saves a good amount of money for them.
If your kids are over 9, and still order off the children's menu, then the DDP is a waste for them (you are required to pay adult prices).
If your kids are under 9, and they want to eat "grown up" food, then the DDP can be a great value with using lots of buffets -- They can still pay kids prices, but eat the regular food. And using the buffet easily makes the kids DDP a value.

And finally -- On the buffets -- The buffets are good values on the DDP -- They typically run $30-$35. Food is unlimited, you can get appetizers, etc.

On the DxDP, the buffets are slightly wasteful of your credits -- Since you are forfeiting your "extra" appetizer. That said, you can still get value on the DxDP and use buffets-- but the value will be a bit less.
 
We used TIW in June, but this time, the DDP is going to be cheaper for us. I went through and priced out every table service meal we wanted to do. I included tax and tip, but not dessert as we would not normally order it:

OOP- $658.07
TIW- $549.62
DDP- $866

So, for $316 (or $39.50/day) we each get a counter service and snack that we would be purchasing even if we used TIW.
 
2DisPrincess --- Just remember, tips are not included in the DDP. Thus, you will have to pay tips OOP, even on the plan.
 
If you usually eat 3 ts meals a day app, entree and dessert the dxdp will save you a lot of money compared to what it would cost if you were paying oop. I think the question you have to ask yourself is it saving me money compared to how I would usually eat. For me personally I love a nice dinner app, entree, dessert and a bottle of wine. For breakfast a bagel and coffee is fine. Lunch I'm happy to just grab a salad and a piece of fruit. I bought the dxdp on our last trip and I loved having everything prepaid, but I felt like a spent more money on food than I would have paying oop because I ate more than I would normally eat. Tips are not included and the more ts you eat the more you spend on tips. Its a tough descision.
 
If you usually eat 3 ts meals a day app, entree and dessert the dxdp will save you a lot of money compared to what it would cost if you were paying oop. I think the question you have to ask yourself is it saving me money compared to how I would usually eat. For me personally I love a nice dinner app, entree, dessert and a bottle of wine. For breakfast a bagel and coffee is fine. Lunch I'm happy to just grab a salad and a piece of fruit. I bought the dxdp on our last trip and I loved having everything prepaid, but I felt like a spent more money on food than I would have paying oop because I ate more than I would normally eat. Tips are not included and the more ts you eat the more you spend on tips. Its a tough descision.

Our eating styles are very similar, and that's why the DxDDP isn't a cost saver for us. It works great for many people, but it just doesn't fit with how we usually eat.

We have three DDP children right now, and we are still weighing out the costs to see if the DDP or Tables in Wonderland will work better for us in 2011.
 

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