2008 - Ddp

cguill

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After just getting back from Disney, it would seem to me that the biggest loser's from this new plan will be the waiters and waitresses. As of right now they get an automatic 18% tip at every table service place. Well, it would seem to me that they will lose out due to many places being buffet style. I know that I personally will not leave 18% at a buffet style place, i.e. Hollywood & Vine, Chef Mickey's, etc ... I feel sorry for those people they might average 10% at best starting in 2008, thoughts ???

My only fear is that the service may go down hill, it was pretty decent while we were there ...
 
This was written on another forum:
"That's correct as of now: the gratuity as of this moment will not be in the 2008 dining plan, along with the removal of the appetizer from the table service meals.
However, this may change, since the wait staff has protested so much. The Disney restaurants are going to loose many of their wait staff if the gratuity is removed from the dining plan. Since most folks won't tip a full 18% or perhaps none at all, the wait staff folks are threatening to "abandon" Disney.
We'll see what develops, but it is true that as of now, no gratuity for 2008 on the dining plan."
 
I spoke to one waiter at Hollywood & Vine last week and he said that he did not know if he would be back next year, also, the day that we were there the prices went up which he mentioned, also he said that on parties of 6 or more gratutity was suppose to be automatically added, don't know how they would do that under the dining plan, unless you had 6 people when you purchased the plan I suppose.

Thanks for posting that ...
 
I also think that 2008 will be interesting, you may see alot of posts about poor service and attitudes, unfortunate, however Disney has brought it upon themselves, not sure who made the dining decision, but more than likely, not a good one, makes you wonder sometimes ... the person(s) who made the decision are probably highly paid upper mgmt. people not thinking correctly ... duh:confused3
 

More likely, the servers are just trying their level best to escalate concerns among guests, to try to use that as a tool to change the agreement that their union worked out with Disney. There were indications that there were some concerted efforts along those lines before the contract was approved by the union members earlier this year, but I suppose some folks figure it cannot hurt to continue applying pressure to the system. They don't have much to lose (except their jobs, of course).

Many people figure that the gratuity change will actually improve service, since now guests will have direct control. Give good service, and you'll probably get a good tip. Give poor service and you can be relatively sure you'll either get a bad tip or get stiffed. That doesn't happen with Dining Plan guests this year. The servers are practically guaranteed a good tip even if they do a poor job.

A lot of folks are also very happy that the Dining Plan is not quite such a good deal next year. For the last three years, they've dealt with really horribly crowded restaurants, often encountering major difficulties getting decent reservations even weeks in advance. They hope that these changes will reduce that pressure, and as a result, things in the restaurants will trend towards how they were before 2005 -- many folks feel strongly that the restaurants provided significantly better food and significantly better service, back before the Dining Plan existed.

So there is a balance to these changes. With the bad comes a lot of good, and again, for many people, they see this as leading to a better result overall.
 












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