2005 Dues Statements Breakdown: Please verify these numbers for me, TY!

disneyberry · Nov 15, 2004

Hi everyone. Just got my 2005 Dues Statement, so I wanted to revisit this thread.

The table below lists the data that members of this board gave me from the Condo Meeting Notices. I wanted to double check to see if the Dues Statements provide exactly the same figures. (BTW FYI, the table cells that are white are where I am missing data.)

I also wanted to collect the 2004 Actual Tax figures.
Please look carefully at your statement for the line titled: "2004 Property Tax - Actual" and let me know what the per point rate figure is. I also should mention that you will only have the accurate Property Tax - Actual rate if you owned your resort for all 365 days of 2004. (This is why we can't figure out SSR's actual 2004 taxes based on our dues statements.)

(Also, I was hoping that a VWL owner might be filing away this year's 2005 statement, and may pull out a folder that contains last year's 2004 Dues Statements.

I am missing last year's breakdown of Operating Budget and Capital Reserves for VWL's 2004 dues, so if any VWL owner could provide that I would greatly appreciate it!)

TIA!

<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" border="1" style="text-align: left; font-weight: bold; font-family: times new roman,times,serif; width: 617px; background-color: rgb(153, 255, 153);"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 135px;">2005 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">OKW </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">VB(sub) </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">VB </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">HHI </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">BWV </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">VWL </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">BCV </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">SSR </td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 135px;">Operating Budget </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">2.5657</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">2.7051 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">3.6350 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">3.1351 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">3.0388 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">3.0070 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;"> 2.8974 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">2.5816 </td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 135px;">Capital Reserves Budget </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.4455 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.5117 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.6068 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.6445 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.5174 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.4911 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.5357 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.4652 </td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 135px;">Property Tax - Estimated </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.8507 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.6281 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.6281 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.2560 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.8546</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.8539 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.8363 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.7791 </td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 135px;">Property Tax - Actual </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">TBA </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">TBA </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">TBA </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">TBA </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">TBA </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">TBA </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">TBA </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">TBA </td></tr></tbody></table>
 
<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" border="1" style="text-align: left; font-weight: bold; font-family: times new roman,times,serif; width: 617px; background-color: rgb(153, 255, 153);"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 135px;">2004 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">OKW </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">VB(sub) </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">VB </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">HHI </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">BWV </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">VWL </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">BCV </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">SSR </td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 135px;">Operating Budget </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">2.4484</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">2.6417 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">3.5488 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">2.9373 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">2.9468 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">2.8590 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">2.5542 </td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 135px;">Capital Reserves Budget </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.4323 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.4916 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.5845 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.6393 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.5093 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.5328 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.4672 </td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 135px;">Property Tax - Estimated </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.7959 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.5382 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.5382 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.2858 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.7954</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.7954 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.7868 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.7791 </td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 135px;">Property Tax - Actual </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.8756 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.2231 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.8792 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">0.8664 </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; width: 50px;">N/A </td></tr></tbody></table>

msdis · Nov 15, 2004

Just got VWL

OB- 3.0070
CRB- .4911
PTE- .8539

total=4.3520/pp

kweaver · Nov 16, 2004

There are two other threads about this that already have quite a bit of the information you are looking for...plus the percentage and overall increase information.

disneyberry · Nov 16, 2004

I'm actually looking for slightly different data than the other threads.

Without the input of members in response to these types of data requests, I would never have been able to put together such a detailed analysis. (Thanks, msdis, for the VWL data!)

Hope this helps clear up any misunderstanding.

disneyberry · Dec 27, 2004

Just a bump. I've modified the original post to reflect my new request for the 2004 Actual Tax numbers.

Frozenfingers · Dec 27, 2004

BCV actual tax .8664

EmptyNester · Dec 27, 2004

OKW - 2004 Actual Prop Taxes = .8756

RobDoc · Dec 27, 2004

HH- 2005 Op Budget Est =$3.1351
2005 Cap resrv Est =$0.6445
2005 Prop Tax EST =$0.2560

2004 actual Prop Tax= $0.2231

OKW - 2005 Op EST=$2.5657
2005 Cap Res EST=$0.4455
2005 Prop Tx EST= $0.8507

2004 actual Prop Tax=$0.8756

PamOKW · Dec 28, 2004

You do such a great job with this! Thanks for your effort.

I was just looking at the thread where you track the dues and the 2005 figures for BCV and HH are still missing. Have you got those?

disneyberry · Dec 28, 2004

Thanks for the kind words, Pam.

Tracking this stuff is fun for me anyway... well, most of the time... :earboy2:

so I'm more than happy to put this together for those of you who are also interested in numbers, heh.
I've been busy so haven't had much time to even check the boards. I do finally have the 2005 dues numbers for all resorts, and will update that Dues Increase thread soon, just never got around to it w/ the holidays and other personal life things getting in the way.

But of course, when I got our dues statement in the mail today, I just had to logon.

BTW, thanks to Frozenfingers, EmptyNester, and Doc for your numbers.

And again, if a VWL owner could kindly supply those older 2004 Dues figures (would be from the statement you got in December 2003), I could finally fill in that hole.

JimC · Dec 28, 2004

PamOKW said:
You do such a great job with this! Thanks for your effort.

Let me add my thanks as well. I just got my OKW and still waiting for BCV, but I notice that others have already posted for both resorts.

disneyberry · Dec 29, 2004

JimC, yep, they beat you to it, but I knew I could count on you to let me know what the numbers were.

Anyway, I am still missing data for Vero and for VWL.

Any VWL or VB owners?

aero99 · Dec 29, 2004

Is the SSR information correct?? I just called to pay my dues with my credit card and was told I had an $85 credit from last year so my dues were 567.67 (170 pts).

Anyone else told this?

Thanks
Melissa

EDIT: Got my statment last night. The actual property tax per point was .0035 put it was prorated (229 days). So for my 170 pts it was a total of $0.37. Since they had overprojected it, I got 83.10 back.

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