2 year old turning 3 right before travel...

[TinyTGO]

So my brother is using my DVC's to stay at SSR. The studio has max occupancy of 4 people and 1 infant. My nephew is turning 3 a week before the trip technically making him and his family ineligible for that room (brother + wife +8yr old + 6 year old + 2 going to be 3 year old)

Can we just say that he's still 2 and go with it?

 

[Vijoge]

I suppose you can do whatever your conscience permits. . .

 

[supersnoop]

Can we just say that he's still 2 and go with it?

I don't understand why you would even ask this question. Are you just looking for people to agree and make you feel better about lying? You can call the 8 year old an infant and just "go with it" if you want. Only you (and the front desk) can stop you.

Keep in mind that the three year old will need a ticket, too. So, it's pretty easy to get caught in this lie.

 

[TinyTGO]

I don't understand why you would even ask this question. Are you just looking for people to agree and make you feel better about lying? You can call the 8 year old an infant and just "go with it" if you want. Only you (and the front desk) can stop you.

Keep in mind that the three year old will need a ticket, too. So, it's pretty easy to get caught in this lie.

actually no, not looking for people to make me feel better. I don't think that 5 days and 6 years are comparable. I also don't think his plan is to not pay for a park ticket. He just doesn't want to pay more than double for a room. The question was more of if proof was necessary or if he would be forced to upgrade rooms when he got there.

 

[supersnoop]

actually no, not looking for people to make me feel better. I don't think that 5 days and 6 years are comparable. I also don't think his plan is to not pay for a park ticket. He just doesn't want to pay more than double for a room. The question was more of if proof was necessary or if he would be forced to upgrade rooms when he got there.

If the kid has a ticket, then the system will know the kid is 3 and will likely prevent them from checking in, or even linking the reservation to their MDE account.

Generally speaking, it's against DIS policy to discuss ways to break the rules, so I wouldn't expect anyone to help you find a way around them.

 

[wilkeliza]

The big issue is the 3 year old can't be on the reservation as under 3 and not have a ticket. While yes there is no difference between 2 11/12 and 3 in terms of height or cognitive abilities there is a big difference to Disney and be fire marshals. Those rooms are coded for 5 plus an infant not 6. Also the 3 year old would not be able to get fast passes and their ticket could not be linked to their magicbands so it creates additional headaches that will surely cause a headache. Also I imagine by putting "infant" the CM checking you in will wise up pretty quickly when it isn't an infant.

 

[wilkeliza]

Also know you are putting yourself in a tricky situation since he would be on your DVC points. I would hardly risk an investment like DVC over someone knowingly breaking the rules.

 

[SteveMouse]

It's not "technically" ineligible. It's ineligible. The age question is a bright line- you either "are" or "are not."

 

[miTnosnhoJ]

The fact is...none of us are authorized to speak for Disney. I would call Member Services and see what they say. If it is a hard rule, they are also your best hope for getting it resolved. For example, if it were possible to move the reservation to a resort that has room for five adults in a studio, they would be able to make that happen.

 

[bumbershoot]

I also don't think his plan is to not pay for a park ticket.

That's not why it was brought up.

If the kid has a ticket, then the system will know the kid is 3 and will likely prevent them from checking in, or even linking the reservation to their MDE account.

That's why.

He'll need a ticket. If they want to include the child on FP arrangements, etc, the ticket will need to be linked. Once it's linked then it'll be obvious that the child is 3. And they'll be caught. And you are the owner of the DVC points.

 

[kristenrice]

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[Dean]

The fact is...none of us are authorized to speak for Disney. I would call Member Services and see what they say. If it is a hard rule, they are also your best hope for getting it resolved. For example, if it were possible to move the reservation to a resort that has room for five adults in a studio, they would be able to make that happen.

I agree, I would call and ask DVC. They may say it's OK but then they'll know. Being honest is often more expensive if they way no. The truth is it'd likely work out if done secretly but there is a risk they could be turned away. While I'm not aware of people being specifically turned away on this issue, others may know of instances. I do know of specific instances with other timeshares as well as fines and being turned out mid stay.

 

[kristenrice]

actually no, not looking for people to make me feel better. I don't think that 5 days and 6 years are comparable. I also don't think his plan is to not pay for a park ticket. He just doesn't want to pay more than double for a room. The question was more of if proof was necessary or if he would be forced to upgrade rooms when he got there.

Two issues here...

One, if the child is going to have a ticket, it must be linked in a MDE account. In order for him to have the 60-day FP+ reservations (which everyone else in the family will probably want), he must be listed on a reservation. In order for him to board the DME bus, he must be listed on a reservation too.

That leads to issue #2...the system will not allow five people to be listed on a reservation for a studio at SSR. This means that in order for him to be on the reservation, he would have to be listed as under 3, which means no ticket can be linked to him.

Your brother will either need to lie about his age and skip buying a ticket and stay in a studio, or be honest about his age, buy the ticket and book a room that accommodates 5.

In regards to what I bolded above, yes, he might be forced to upgrade subject to availability. The points would be taken from YOUR DVC account (he could not pay cash on the spot) and if there is nothing available, he may be turned away altogether.

 

[lundve]

So my brother is using my DVC's to stay at SSR. The studio has max occupancy of 4 people and 1 infant. My nephew is turning 3 a week before the trip technically making him and his family ineligible for that room (brother + wife +8yr old + 6 year old + 2 going to be 3 year old)

Can we just say that he's still 2 and go with it?

I'm in this situation too now as we've had a third child and can not stay at our home resort SSR in a studio any longer.

An obvious question to me why not change their reservation back two or three weeks and save the money as he still is two and the hassle of the situation.

 

[kniquy]

The question was more of if proof was necessary

Doesn't the system usually ask for the birthdays of each person in the traveling party (I just checked the system -- for anyone under 10 it will ask for their age and DOB) -- so it would be the system to determine age at the time of check in. You do not have to show proof such as a birth certificate. I think they assume people will be honest, but for a difference of a few days - he might want to save the money on park tickets. Has he created his my Disney experience account? I think even "infants" need to be listed on the account and need fast passes. I do recall that when we were going to take our 18 month old with us (she ended up staying home with the grandparents) we did have her in the account and she did get the magic band so i would think that you would have to have your infant listed on the account.

Honestly -- he is the holder of whether or not this reservation will work for him or not. It will be the age of the child entered into the account. Just let him know that if he puts him as being 3 when they check in he will need to have a ticket for the 3 yo and that he might be denied the room. Could you look into changing them to one of the 5 person studios at 7 months? Or tell him to make a reservation for a room which will accommodate all 5 people, then see if you can secure a 5 person studio at 7 months. If you can't then he has to use his direct reservation -- or he can try for a DVC rental. Or you can get a transfer of points to make a reservation at poly BCV, BWV or WL -- all that have the option of 5 in a studio.

It is a slightly messy situation that you shouldn't really get in the middle of. Just let him make the decision for his family what he is willing to do -- your job it to let him know his options.

 

[Apps]

I don't understand why you would even ask this question. Are you just looking for people to agree and make you feel better about lying? You can call the 8 year old an infant and just "go with it" if you want. Only you (and the front desk) can stop you.

Keep in mind that the three year old will need a ticket, too. So, it's pretty easy to get caught in this lie.

Why will the 3yr old need a ticket? I've never seen a CM ask for the age of the child even though I've seen some giant 3yr olds enter the park free .

 

[Vijoge]

Why will the 3yr old need a ticket? I've never seen a CM ask for the age of the child even though I've seen some giant 3yr olds enter the park free .

"Please note that children younger than age 3 don't need a ticket."
And older than 3 they do.

 

[robinb]

I thiink @kniquy is right, I think DVC/MDX does ask for the birthday of each of the kids so you'll have to decide what to do about that. That being said, they don't ask for birth certificates at check-in or at the park gates to prove that a child listed as an "infant" or without a ticket is really 2 v/s 3. I'm personally not a stickler for the rules and I don't think it's a big deal that a kid is 120 hours older than 36 months (even though my 3-year old had an AP 14 years ago). I would go with whatever you feel comfortable with.

FWIW, if a child starts out as 2 and turns 3 during the stay they are "2" for the whole stay. Maybe they can go the week before over his birthday week?

 

[kniquy]

You can call the 8 year old an infant and just "go with it" if you want.

Really? So that 20 year old can get a 3-9 yo ticket too? Your comment is a bit ludicrous. Lets be real here. How many people who are in this predicament would shift a birthday to avoid paying for a park ticket, keeping a smaller room or avoid having to pay for a dining plan for an infant. Am i saying it is right to lie, no, but i can see that there are many people who are already shelling out thousands of dollars to Disney who for one year can squeak out one more trip with saving a few hundred dollars.

 

[CarolMN]

The OP has her answer. I'm going to close this thread. The DIS does not permit debates about Disney policy.