2 New Ships

[bob1459]

Having DCL out of NY would be awesome..Won't have to fly. Spend more on the ship!! I know when I got my survey post card it asked about Alaska and Bermuda. Most ships that go to Bermuda go out of NY or NJ so that would be a great one.


Can't wait to see if it is for real. Disney rumors are great though. Keeps everyone excited.

 

[Par8hed]

Disney tried in the early to mid 1990's, about 1994 to build the park in northern Virginia. People there protested because it was near battlefields and Disney backed off and said they would build it in the Houston area. Friends in Houston said land was being purchased but to my knowlege they have not broken ground. GGalveston is a good port. Carnival and Royal Caribbean sail 7 night trips from there. For middle america it is closer to get there than either coast and the proximity allows for easy port access in the Caribbean.

But Carnival and RCI have fleets. Disney, even if they add two ships, is a small player. I have nothing against Galveston but surely the NY metro/New England area is a bigger market. A sure thing if you will. From a financial standpoint, DCL out of New York couldn't miss for the Disney INC umbrella. Now if the proposed park were already there??????

But I guarantee you if someome here were to start a poll on Galveston vs. NY the results would be one-sided.

 

[Babyjustrun]

I'm all for one or more NY ships, depending on the itinerary.
It would be great to visit Saint John and see them in port for one of their port of calls

 

[daipp]

I hope it's true !
I hope it's true !
I hope it's true !



David

 

[my3kids]

But Carnival and RCI have fleets. Disney, even if they add two ships, is a small player. I have nothing against Galveston but surely the NY metro/New England area is a bigger market. A sure thing if you will. From a financial standpoint, DCL out of New York couldn't miss for the Disney INC umbrella. Now if the proposed park were already there??????

But I guarantee you if someome here were to start a poll on Galveston vs. NY the results would be one-sided.

But, if Disney has a theme park right there, wouldn't Galveston make sense? Of course if there isn't a theme park tie-in then Galveston would be a bust. With a major Disney Park there, then it makes for a profitable location.

 

[Par8hed]

But, if Disney has a theme park right there, wouldn't Galveston make sense? Of course if there isn't a theme park tie-in then Galveston would be a bust. With a major Disney Park there, then it makes for a profitable location.

OK my3kids.....give it up! Your profile doesn't show where you live but I have a strong suspicion it's either in Texas or on the gulf coast nearby???

If we're talking about a 2010 ship... then this MAJOR theme park that isn't there better break ground soon.

If the park were there would it be profitable. I think so.

But I'd still rather take my risks with the NY market.

 

[Amlee]

I just don't see Disney doing 2 ships AND a new park at the same time.

 

[LOVETHATMOUSE]

NY would be awesome - defintely ALOT more cruises in our future if it is so.

 

[my3kids]

OK my3kids.....give it up! Your profile doesn't show where you live but I have a strong suspicion it's either in Texas or on the gulf coast nearby???

If we're talking about a 2010 ship... then this MAJOR theme park that isn't there better break ground soon.

If the park were there would it be profitable. I think so.

But I'd still rather take my risks with the NY market.

No, actually where we hoped it would go in Virginia. We're not so big on battlefields. In any case, I, nor you, have ANY bearing on where a future ship might be placed. If you think you do, you clearly have delusions of grandeur, however unwarranted. If you do a little research you'll learn about the American History park, whether it is progressing or stopped it its tracks somewhere after the plan left Virginia, I have no idea, and I really don't care. The plan for the park was well more documented than these alleged ships, which I thought everyone was merely speculating on.

If I was from Galveston and thought some comments placed on a bulletin board might actually influence Disney to place a ship in one location over another, then I, like you, would be seriously over estimating my importance.

 

[my3kids]

Parrothead: Some articles that discussed the failed attemp by Disney to locate a theme park in Virginia:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,980871,00.html

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1316/is_n12_v26/ai_15991300

The last we heard in Virginia was they were moving the project to the Houston area. No idea what has transpired since then. Sounds like parrothead must know the facts though, so I'm sure he'll set us straight on the path Disney is taking with the America park.

 

["Got Disney"]

I live here in SanDiego and would make sence to have ship out this way. We have Disneyland...ship was out here for the summer of 2005 doing a run of the Mexican Riveara ,after the trip through the Panama canal...that I was on. Not only could they have Alaska and the Mexican Rivera there is also Hawaii.
But I will only believe it when I see it. It is funny how we all want it soooo bad you would figure that there is a market for it so they would do it. Well either way if they do it this end I'll be there!!! Till than I will continue to fly to Fla.

 

[Soccermom-Cheri]

... It is funny how we all want it soooo bad you would figure that there is a market for it so they would do it. Well either way if they do it this end I'll be there!!! Till than I will continue to fly to Fla.

Well said. (and DCL would be nuts not to send a ship out here )

 

[Par8hed]

In any case, I, nor you, have ANY bearing on where a future ship might be placed. If you think you do, you clearly have delusions of grandeur, however unwarranted. If you do a little research you'll learn about the American History park, whether it is progressing or stopped it its tracks somewhere after the plan left Virginia, I have no idea, and I really don't care. The plan for the park was well more documented than these alleged ships, which I thought everyone was merely speculating on.

If I was from Galveston and thought some comments placed on a bulletin board might actually influence Disney to place a ship in one location over another, then I, like you, would be seriously over estimating my importance.

Was this really necessary? Did I say anything offensive to you? When and where exactly did I intimate in any way that I had any bearing/influence on anything? What statement of mine led you to believe that my or anyone elses post would influence Disney? I stated my opinion that New York would be a more lucrative and safer expansion market than Galveston. Somehow, from that statement you derived that I had "delusions of grandeur"?
I feel your post was out of line.
By the way, I am quite familiar with the proposed park in Virginia and certain that "over estimating" is actually one word.

 

["Got Disney"]

Was this really necessary? Did I say anything offensive to you? When and where exactly did I intimate in any way that I had any bearing/influence on anything? What statement of mine led you to believe that my or anyone elses post would influence Disney? I stated my opinion that New York would be a more lucrative and safer expansion market than Galveston. Somehow, from that statement you derived that I had "delusions of grandeur"?
I feel your post was out of line.
By the way, I am quite familiar with the proposed park in Virginia and certain that "over estimating" is actually one word.

Sorry but I don't feel that that was necessary either...and in my opinion Par8hed your posts were just fine and did not offend me...I was more offended by my 3kids and the attitude that came with it..Sorry and hope this does not offend anyone! have a great day!

 

[Buddy Bear]

The ships that port here from NY are on 7 or 8 night trips most of the time. They call Brumuda, Bahamas and Port Canaveral and sometimes Key West/Miami. We get one from NY every week sometimes more. I guess anything is possible, but we want the new ship here...=o)

Yes that is true and the thought of a NY based cruise is not appealing at all. I have no interest in sailing the Atlantic to get to the Caribbean. Flying to Port Canaveral or Miami, if necessary, is much better since we are much closer to the destination ports and can make it to the Southern Caribbean; from NY that isn't a possiblity on a 7 or 8 day cruise.

As stated in your post some cruise lines that sail from NY have PC on their itinerary. I think PC makes a great place to start a cruise, but I certainly wouldn't consider it a "port of call" like those often visited in the Caribbean.

Sailing in the winter months based out of Florida or California would be tolerable, but snow on the deck of a cruise ship in February would be no fun. In general the Atlantic Ocean has rougher seas than the Caribbean. I live 45 minutes from NY and would never consider sailing from any that may be available today or in the future.

 

[captaincrash]

Sorry but I don't feel that that was necessary either...and in my opinion Par8hed your posts were just fine and did not offend me...I was more offended by my 3kids and the attitude that came with it..Sorry and hope this does not offend anyone! have a great day!

Agreed....

... GotDisney, you're not doin' anything a 100 other DIS folk must be thinkin'.

At any rate... all that matters is NOT where any one or two ships gets parked... or where any new park is built. Conversationhere is just cordail banter among (mostly) friendly sorts. And I enjoy the banter and friendly thoughts.

My compliments to all who perpetuate a friendly spirit that is free of the infantile edge. This is a public forum and most anyone is welcome to post their thoughts... and as such - that is the price of freedom. As is my affirmation on GotDisneys' defense of Par8hed.

Cheers to all - including those in need of a little more "good cheers"!

 

[Mishetta]

I think we need to shake hands & make up here, but truthfully I was a little put out by Par8hed's "give it up" remark & I think that's why My3kids was defensive, but with all due respect, I think you're both wrong & Disney will set up shop in Detroit!! Hahahahahaha!! I'm all for that!!

 

[gydell]

I vote Atlanta!

 

[beachblanket]

the thought of a NY based cruise is not appealing at all.

The 246,000 passengers who sailed on cruises out of NYC last year disagree with you. And their money talks.

 

[mmouse37]

We took a Carnival cruise out of NYC last year and it was fantastic not to have to fly to our starting point. We are 30 minutes north of the New York Passenger Ship Terminal and it was awesome to just pull up to the port, get out and wait to board.....the whole hassle of flying was gone....

The cruise was 8 days on the Legend......2.5 days at sea to get to San Juan, the next day was St. Thomas and the next was Tortola...then 2.5 days to get back....the sea days were as great as the ports (I like sea days...others may not). Let me tell you that nothing beats the thrill you get as you pass the Statue of Liberty and then see the NY skyline fade away as you sail down the Hudson River...passing under the Verazzano Narrows bridge is also and awesome site!!!

Granted...not sure if I would like to do that in the winter months for reasons others have posted...but for the summer months it would be ideal to have DCL here in NYC