12 year old boys

maymom96

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My son is 12 and in 7th grade. He has always had friends that are girls. But he wasn't interested in girls until a few weeks ago when he started hanging out with this boy named T. Suddenly my son is girl crazy, telling us lies, sneaking late night conversations on his cell phone, grades dropping and God knows what else. Apparently the girlfriend my son has is best friends with T's girlfriend.
So on Friday, my son asks if T can stay the night. I was half asleep and apparently said yes. T is over when I wake up and my son asks if he can go to the movies with T. My son becomes almost obsessed with being able to go. I told him I wasn't giving him the money (we're between pay days). So he goes to the neighbors and asks if he can do work for them. They all say no.
He then is begging and trying to make himself cry so we will give him the money so he can go. I asked him who else was going. DS keeps saying no one and finally T says "My girlfriend is meeting me there". I asked my son why he would want to be the third wheel. He keeps begging to go swearing no one else is going. Finally after 15 minutes, he admits that his girlfriend is also meeting them there.
I asked what adult would be present. You would have thought I asked the boys to give me their kidney. And you guessed it, no adult is going.
I told my son no because he lied. I then looked at his grades online and he go a D- on his journal. He justifies the grade by saying he got a 97 on his science fair project. I'm still scratching my head over that.
Anyways, I told my son no. He doesn't care about his grades and he's telling lies. I told him I can't trust him and don't trust T (who had just told us that everyone at school is saying he had sex with a girl). I told my son that he was going to get the same rumors about him because birds of a feather flock together. For some reason, my son always picks questionable friends.
I just don't know what to do. T is not welcome back to my home because I believe he is leading my son down this path. I can't control who he hangs out with at school but I can at my home. My son is immature and just wants to fit in. He doesn't make good decisions and I can see him going down the wrong path because that's what everyone else is doing.
He is a good boy but doesn't use his brain. He plays school sports. We attend church. Either my dh or I are always home and am very involved in our children's lives. But my son is finding ways around our rules, doesn't care what we expect from him and just wants to do what he wants.
DS thinks we are too strict. Yes he is growing up but I refuse to allow a 12 year old to go to the movies with a girl with no adult. If he wants to go to the movies with this girl, there will be rules. No lies, acceptable grades and an adult will be present (a few rows behind them).
Am I old fashion or do parents now a days let their kids grow up sooner than they should? Would you allow you 12 year old to go to the movies with a girl with no adult supervision? Heck, would you allow your 12 year old to even go on dates? The whole thing just seems too advanced for me.
 
12-year-old boy here in my home as well.

And you're not old-fashioned. I'd call ya' smart. ::yes::
 
I teach 7th grade and I totally agree that many parents are allowing...no..encouraging their kids to grow up too quickly. I hear things that would make anyone's skin crawl! My parents were pretty "strict" but looking back, they really knew what they were doing. I couldn't date until I was 16. I could attend school events with a date in Jr. High, and I could go out with groups of friends in high school without an adult. No one-on-one dates till I was 16. I think you are right. Your son will be grumpy with you for a while, but making good choices now (with your help) will help him have a successful life ahead.
 
He thinks *you're* too strict? Hoo-boy, he better be glad I'm not his momma.

Cell-phone....GONE.
Grounded.
To school and back.
No unsupervised Internet. I would probably put a keylogger program on the computer to see what he was looking at.
I would probably leave him in sports because the other kids are counting on him and the coach is a positive influence.
Counseling.
Some hard labor at a horse-farm, mucking out stalls, etc....is "horseshowmom" anywhere near you? (Long story....)

And the cry-baby act wouldn't fly with me and I'd tell him so, it would make things WORSE for him. My DD knows that I mean what I say and I will follow through, but I got her trained on that when she was little. She's a teenager now and things are good most of the time.

Good luck and here's a hug :grouphug: - parenting isn't for wimps.

agnes!
 

Cell-phone....GONE.
Grounded.
To school and back.
No unsupervised Internet. I would probably put a keylogger program on the computer to see what he was looking at.
I would probably leave him in sports because the other kids are counting on him and the coach is a positive influence.
Counseling.
Some hard labor at a horse-farm, mucking out stalls, etc....is "horseshowmom" anywhere near you? (Long story....)

The cell phone is only for contact between us and him. He's not suppose to have friends numbers in the phone. If he wants to talk to friends, we have a house phone. His cell is next to the computer. At 11:29 last night, a girl called him but he was sleeping. What is up with that?
The internet will be taken away. He will stay in wrestling and we live on a farm so he's used to that work.
My ds wakes up this morning and gives me a big hug. I know he's sucking up and I just want him to be away from me. I just lost a baby on Monday and know my emotions are on overdrive (no need to say sorry). I just want to be mean and I feel like my son is the object of that meanness right now. I feel like part of me is over reacting but the other part of me says that I'm not.
 
I think it's good that you are concerned. All of the things you described are problems and will only get worse as he gets older if they are dealt with now. I would encourage him to invite other kids over.

I would put the cell phone up each night. You can always answer it yourself and tell the person calling that his phone is put up each night so they shouldn't bother calling late again.

I don't see a huge problem with meeting at the movies, but that's a personal call.

The grades are a problem. It sounds like some strict study time each day after school might be in order.
 
I have a 12 year old DD. So far we haven't had many problems, she does indicate that her "boyfriend" distracts her at school, I can also check grades online and she really hears it if I see bad grades. The main thing that kills her is having the cell phone restricted because she talks to him every evening, I do that for bad grades that don't improve after, say, a week. A situation came up where her best friend asked DD and this "boyfriend" to go to the movies with her and her "boyfriend" with this friend's mother, of course, I said no because it sounded too much like a "date" and there will be no dating till at least 16!

I know you said not to but I really do feel for you, having so many crisies to deal with. I will pray for you!
 
T is not welcome back to my home because I believe he is leading my son down this path.

Keep your enemies close, you can't prevent them from seeing each other outside the house, it might be wise to let T over so you can keep an eye on things.
 
The cell phone is only for contact between us and him. He's not suppose to have friends numbers in the phone. If he wants to talk to friends, we have a house phone. His cell is next to the computer. At 11:29 last night, a girl called him but he was sleeping. What is up with that?
The internet will be taken away. He will stay in wrestling and we live on a farm so he's used to that work.
My ds wakes up this morning and gives me a big hug. I know he's sucking up and I just want him to be away from me. I just lost a baby on Monday and know my emotions are on overdrive (no need to say sorry). I just want to be mean and I feel like my son is the object of that meanness right now. I feel like part of me is over reacting but the other part of me says that I'm not.

Can you set the phone to only be able to call certain numbers, you/your DH/home/emergency numbers?
And I would turn the phone OFF at a certain hour, say at 7pm or something. My DD has a friend who had her boyfriend calling every night at 10 (girl wanted him to) - none of that after-hours crud on my watch.

You all just need to make sure that everyone in the family *knows* they are loved, no matter what.
*You* included, ok ::yes::?

And I like the idea of keeping T close....you might want to think about that.

agnes!
 
I totally agree with your general approach!!! :thumbsup2
My son is not 12 yet, but that day is coming soon... and, he will not be 'grown up' at 12 years of age.

Why is it almost criminal to actually be a parent these days!!!????

I do have to say, though, that I really noticed this comment...

I just lost a baby on Monday and know my emotions are on overdrive (no need to say sorry). I just want to be mean and I feel like my son is the object of that meanness right now. I feel like part of me is over reacting but the other part of me says that I'm not.

I will go ahead and say that I am so sorry for what happened with the baby :grouphug:

But, please step back, give yourself some room and some time... Step back until these negative/angry feelings about your son are back in perspective...

Would it be possible to have a talk with your husband, and let him know how you feel. And, let him know that "You really need him to, please, put away the 'growing up' debate for while, and support you in parenting your son at this time".
 
Mother of a 12 year old boy here too! I'm pretty strict on him too. No cell phone, I monitor the internet and other activities. So far none of the girly problems, but yesterday there were some girls yelling at him through my car window. Talking about your that boy (and then bunches of giggles!). Sigh. They must have not thought that I was his mother! He just sits there with this small grin on his face. :rolleyes:

I won't allow him to date either until 16. Rules are rules. He's a pretty good kid (thank God). The problems I have with him is that he is lazy and doesn't like cleaning and such. :laundy:

Hang in there. I promise you I had a revelation yesterday realizing that next month he would be 13. In 5 years 18 and a high school graduate. For what ever reason that makes me happier than you can ever know! Plus a job at 16! I'm beginning to get excited :cool1:
 
You don't seem old-fashioned at all. It's what I'd expect from a parent anyway. In fact, I think you should buckle down a few more restrictions on him - lying wouldn't fly with me or my parents.

(I'm 16. :upsidedow )
 
Have you talked to him about your concerns? They're all reasonable concerns. But personally, I think it might help to either talk to him or have your husband talk to him. At 12, I could have really used someone to talk to. Unfortunately, I was too afraid that my mother would hate me. Of course she wouldn't, as I'm sure you don't hate him for liking girls. I was just overly paranoid.
Good luck :)
 


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