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Excellent Tom !!

I've been to Pembroke Castle in the 1970s with my parents. It's a fairly good example of a medieval castle. We lived about 90 miles east of Pembroke.

On the map we lived about 15 miles just south of the Brecon Beacons.

It's great to visit but I'm not ready to move back:rolleyes1

David

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Walking through places with a meaningful historic past always gives me pause to consider... and Pembroke Castle was certainly a memorable place. Although it was no collossal monstrosity - it sure must have loomed large in the community in 1093 when the first wooden pallisade was built on what I assume was this site by Earl Roger of Montgomery

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Soon after the Battle of Hastings in 1066 the victorious Norman invaders looked to Wales, but it was not until 1093 that Earl Roger of Montgomery built the first Pembroke Castle. Although it was a fairly basic structure of timber palisades the castle stood firm against Welsh counter attacks.

Two sieges were successfully resisted and the strategic importance of the castle grew as Pembroke became the base for the Normans' campaigns in Ireland.

In 1189 William Marshal became Earl of Pembroke and the castle passed into his hands. Over the next 30 years he transformed the earth and timber structure into a powerful stone fortification.

William Marshal was a mighty figure in mediaeval Britain. A crusader and faithful adherent of Henry II, he championed the causes of both Richard I and John, whom he advised on the Magna Carta. He was also Regent to the infant Henry III. His chief legacy to Pembroke was the Great Tower and much of the Inner Ward. William was succeeded by each of his five sons in turn. His third son, Gilbert, was responsible for enlarging and strengthening the castle between 1234 and 1241.

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According to legend an Irish bishop had put a curse on William Marshal saying that all his sons would die childless. The castle thus passed into the hands of William de Valence, a half-brother of Henry III who became Lord of Pembroke through his marriage to Joan, granddaughter of William Marshal.

Valence family held the castle for 70 years, strengthening it by building the walls and towers around the outer ward. They also fortified the town, creating a ring of walls with three main gates and a postern.On the death of Aymer, William de Valence's son, the castle passed through marriage into the hands of the Hastings family. In 1389 the death of John Hastings at the age of 17 ended a line of inheritance stretching back for over a quarter of a millennium.

After the death of Aymer de Valence Pembroke Castle reverted to Richard II. It was granted out in a series of short tenancies and began to fall into disrepair. In 1400 the great Welsh soldier, patriot and hero, Owain Glyndwr, led yet another rebellion against the hated English settlers.

Pembroke escaped a siege because the Constable at the time, Francis а Court, bought off Glydwr with the Welsh equivalent of danegeld.

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Eventually Pembroke Castle passed into the hands of a new Earl, Henry VI's half-brother Jasper Tewdwr. He was the first to make it more of a home than a fortress, embellishing the domestic buildings with fireplaces and a fine oriel window.During the Wars of the Roses Jasper's 15 year-old sister-in-law, Margaret, was sent to Pembroke Castle for her safety.

There she gave birth to a son Henry Tewdwr, who later defeated Richard III at the Battle of Bosworth Field to became the first monarch of the Tudor dynasty.Henry VII, although he spent his childhood at Pembroke, never returned to Wales as king. He did however create his son, Henry Prince of Wales, Earl of Pembroke.

Just imagine how many generations have walked the ramparts of Pembroke Castle IN SERIOUS service to thier governing Earl and King? Or put another way - it is fascinating to walk where so many have trod before in the history of the region?
 
That's probably when we'll be at WDW too. When I graduate, I'm considered an Executive-In-Training, and can be a little flexible in my work schedule. Once I get my license, I'll officially be a pharmacist, at which point, I'll be starting out with no vacation time. Hopefully, I'll pass the boards and law exam on the first try, and will get my license by mid July. So we'll probably head down just as soon as the kids finish school in June.

Just checked the kids schedule and they are out June 11th or 12th. Of course this would all depend on whether Austyn decides to take dance, because their show is usually the week after school is out. So we are good from 6/13-8/23 for probably a 10 day visit.
 
So we'll probably head down just as soon as the kids finish schoool in June.

So we are good from 6/13-8/23 for probably a 10 day visit.

Our last day is the 17th of June (tentative) but that is based on 5 snow days for the year. If we don't use any (:lmao: :lmao: yeah right) then could be a few days earlier but i wouldn't count on it.

Still need that job first though :headache: .
 
Just checked the kids schedule and they are out June 11th or 12th. Of course this would all depend on whether Austyn decides to take dance, because their show is usually the week after school is out. So we are good from 6/13-8/23 for probably a 10 day visit.

My kids are out 6/22...plus snow days. Which means we won't know the exact day they get out until winter is over. They could have anywhere from 2 to 10 days off, depending on how bad our winter is. :sad2:
 

Congrats on the closing Steph! I don't do well with stress either. I try so hard to be patient, but once things start going unexpectedly, I start acting like a raving lunatic! :sad2:

I'm glad I'm not the only one! ;)

At any rate - here are a couple of images of me (the trouble maker in red) shot by friends in the audience in the council chamber last nite...

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You are a very good speaker and I'm sure you got your point across without boring anyone! :)

I truly cannot see you being rude or mean to anyone Steph! :hug: Congrats on the closing!

Thanks! I really do try to be nice! :hug:

I cannot wait to see your videos!! I have a ton too, but I would have to figure out smugmug....looks like its confusing, and I am a computer dummy.

It is really easy!!!!! I promise!

Good luck K and M on the interviews!
Kristina, my daughter had so much fun with your DD and pyramid2000's DD. She is keeping in touch with them through email. I know she had a great time!
We were planning to go to WDW in 2009 for free dining, but we may be able to move it up if everyone is thinking about August.

Same here.

I can cope with being British - that's what is on my passport after all. Wales is the country of my birth and being Welsh is what I am proud to be. BUT NEVER call me English - I may live in England but that is it.:mad:

I would NEVER call you English. :hug:

We like Alex with us as he's good company and he is very funny and entertaining - he's one of the few people aho have a similar sense of humour to me.:rotfl2:

David

Then you understand us wanting to take Samantha! ALtho...now that Michael is a real adult (28) he and Jon are LOTS of fun together! LOL! We had a fantastic time on the 10 nt with all of our kids. It's just too expensive to pay for the adult kids on long trips like that! LOL!

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To be born Welsh is to be born privileged.
Not with a silver spoon in your mouth.
But music in your blood and poetry in your soul.

David

David, I loved the lesson. :)
 
update -
Interview today went well. I'm going back to meet with their big cheese late this week or early next week, so that's a good sign.

I interview at a different organization on Thurs. morning.

Still waiting to hear back from the org. I met with last week.

Sure would be nice to know if/where I am working next week.

Please keep appropriate appendages crossed...

Hope all goes well M!!!:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

Good news --

We closed on one of houses last night -- BUT, now I have to really get teh rest of our stuff out of it!

We didn't know that we were going to close until about an hour before. They had wanted to do it today and dh said *That's great but, I'll be in Mexico.* (dh left early this morning) The buyer (and dh) didn't want to wait until Monday -- I did!. So, we closed last night.

I am NOT a person that likes last minute plans. I have a tendency to panic and be really rude/mean to everyone. I try to control it but, it shows through....:sad2:

Which house??? Your last house or the one your BIL is working on??;)

Smugmug is very easy....... give it a try

No comment!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: It is easy for pictures......maybe our video camera downloaded into computer is in a format smug mug does not like??:confused3 :confused3

I can cope with being British - that's what is on my passport after all. Wales is the country of my birth and being Welsh is what I am proud to be. BUT NEVER call me English - I may live in England but that is it.:mad:

See...........I almost knew how to push your buttons. ;) I thought You did not like to be called British either.:rolleyes1 You do know I was trying to be clever!!!:rotfl: :rotfl: I have had your lesson once before.:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:



We like Alex with us as he's good company and he is very funny and entertaining - he's one of the few people aho have a similar sense of humour to me.:rotfl2:

Yes......and he truned out to be quite charming too.:thumbsup2

David
 
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To be born Welsh is to be born privileged.
Not with a silver spoon in your mouth.
But music in your blood and poetry in your soul.




About Wales

Wales is 256 kms from North to South and is about 96 kms wide

The population of Wales is approximately 3 million.

Welsh (Cymraeg) is one of the oldest living languages in Europe.
The language is referred to within Wales as Iaith y Nefoedd (The language of Heaven)

The Welsh National emblems are the leek and the daffodil

The National flag is the Red Dragon passant on a green and white field.

The national musical instrument is the harp (the instrument of Heaven).


Lesson over !! :)



David
Seeing as we are talking about being Welsh, may I say I'm half Welsh? My maternal grandparents were born in Wales. My grandfather in Llanelli and my grandmother in Barry. My grandparents moved to the US in 1921. My mom was always proud of her Welsh heritage. (as I am too) At her memorial service we had the Lords Prayer said in Welsh. In 1976, the BBC did some shows called," The Welsh Experience in America" and one of the episodes was on my grandpa!
 
:banana: Since won't be going to France..DH said that WDW would be great (I had him talked into August but if we want to change to June...anytime after the 20th would be fine.)

We will be doing the ABD trip to Wshington DC, PA, and VA instead..we were going to go before the trip to FL and fly down from VA but we would have to reverse it and go from FL if we did June.
Anytime in August is good for us as well.
 
Coming our way Des....:yay:

:woohoo: We have always wanted to take Tori to the area and since the trip is free except airfare..it's a good time. Airfare won't be as bad as Europe.

Hoping to combine it in with a trip to WDW...need to find out the week of the WDW trip to book this trip tho.

I miss everyone! Cheryl and I were talking today (shocker..I know!) and I can't believe it's only been just over 3 weeks since we got off of the ship..seems like 3 months.
 
You are a very good speaker and I'm sure you got your point across without boring anyone! :)

:)

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Actually,

I went unscripted and unrehersed. I had an emotional vent and was a bit out of practice (I thought) as I lost momentum towards the end. Plus I skipped a mental point (I had wanted to mention something that had a 'nice ring" to it - but in my old age I forgot then - as I do now ... as I can't quite recall what it was ... ). At any rate... I just woke up and felt like checking things on line instead of catching another 40 winks. I have a pokemon auction closing and wanted to see how it was going (I want to win it).

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Thank YOU Steph for the kind compliments though. I used tohave a lot of practice speaking in business and competitively in college and High school. I felt so out of practice on one hand this past tuesday - while on the other hand it was really kind of fun to have had a chance to stand up again and wing an emotional vent too... WKIM? I think all of the parents gathered understood we were fighting for the Truth to be discussed (not hidden any further), and for simple Justice to have a chance here in a PUBLIC forum ....

Maybe I'm being a bit idealistic - but then again, Alicia has often quipped I have always been a bit of the "hopeless romantic" type at times....

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I miss everyone! Cheryl and I were talking today (shocker..I know!) and I can't believe it's only been just over 3 weeks since we got off of the ship..seems like 3 months.


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.... funny - maybe a bit spooky wierd even ... your comment struck a chord with me --- as I too thought "Gee, that's exactly how I feel too"...

... and on the other hand - I am freshly reminded ... shouldn't I BE SENDING your daughter something? Yeah, it slipped my old worn out mind ... but I shall get it into the mail today (or tomorrow ;) ).
 
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Seeing as we are talking about being Welsh, may I say I'm half Welsh? My maternal grandparents were born in Wales. My grandfather in Llanelli and my grandmother in Barry. My grandparents moved to the US in 1921. My mom was always proud of her Welsh heritage. (as I am too) At her memorial service we had the Lords Prayer said in Welsh. In 1976, the BBC did some shows called," The Welsh Experience in America" and one of the episodes was on my grandpa!

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No comment!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: It is easy for pictures......maybe our video camera downloaded into computer is in a format smug mug does not like??:confused3 :confused3

Send me a dvd with some of the videos and I will figure it out for you
 
:banana: Since won't be going to France..DH said that WDW would be great (I had him talked into August but if we want to change to June...anytime after the 20th would be fine.)

We will be doing the ABD trip to Wshington DC, PA, and VA instead..we were going to go before the trip to FL and fly down from VA but we would have to reverse it and go from FL if we did June.
Anytime in August is good for us as well.

Let all us Philly types know when you will be there!
 
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To be born Welsh is to be born privileged.
Not with a silver spoon in your mouth.
But music in your blood and poetry in your soul.




About Wales

Wales is 256 kms from North to South and is about 96 kms wide

The population of Wales is approximately 3 million.

Welsh (Cymraeg) is one of the oldest living languages in Europe.
The language is referred to within Wales as Iaith y Nefoedd (The language of Heaven)

The Welsh National emblems are the leek and the daffodil

The National flag is the Red Dragon passant on a green and white field.

The national musical instrument is the harp (the instrument of Heaven).


Lesson over !! :)



David
Thanks, very cool:thumbsup2
See when in doubt, I just call you folks across the pond "Europeans", is that ok:confused3 ;)


That's probably when we'll be at WDW too. When I graduate, I'm considered an Executive-In-Training, and can be a little flexible in my work schedule. Once I get my license, I'll officially be a pharmacist, at which point, I'll be starting out with no vacation time. Hopefully, I'll pass the boards and law exam on the first try, and will get my license by mid July. So we'll probably head down just as soon as the kids finish schoool in June.

What happened to the Aruba trip in May:confused: Is that on the back burner:confused3
I think we can do a short trip to WDW in June '09 instead, it would be great to see everyone again:grouphug:
 
We have always wanted to take Tori to the area and since the trip is free except airfare..it's a good time.

Let me know too. I assume you will fly in to Philly and then ABD will bus you my way and then on to Williamsburg. Flights from Norfolk or VA Beach to MCO shouldn't be too bad but some peeps even drive to FL from there. (probably 9-10ish hours from there)

I was thinking about getting BG passes next year (again...we'll see) maybe we could follow (ie stalk :rotfl: )you guys.
 
Let all us Philly types know when you will be there!

Let me know too. I assume you will fly in to Philly and then ABD will bus you my way and then on to Williamsburg. Flights from Norfolk or VA Beach to MCO shouldn't be too bad but some peeps even drive to FL from there. (probably 9-10ish hours from there)

I was thinking about getting BG passes next year (again...we'll see) maybe we could follow (ie stalk :rotfl: )you guys.

Depending if this group goes to WDW in June or Aug...we will be there either the week after or the week before the WDW trip. We start out in PA and end up in VA! Once we pick a week for the family reunion..I will pick a week for our ABD.

As for flying to Florida..we are debating between that or possibly drive...we know it isn't far and Tori would get to see a couple of states she hasn't been to yet...she is attempting to see all 50..so far she has been to 28 states. (love those annual road trips!)

Well..it's field trip day! Off to the County Fair...going to be 98 here today :eek: Nice day to go walking around...
 
I posted on the other thread, but just thought I would chime in here. Looks like we'll be at WDW in mid-June this coming summer for our 20th Anniversary! It would be wonderful to have a "family reunion" with everyone :thumbsup2 We like June since it doesn't seem as insanely hot as July and early August and the crowds aren't quite as huge (busy, but not insanely crowded).

If it ends up that everyone else is going a different time, we can try and come for a quick couple day trip if airfare and hotels aren't totally crazy....

Pamela

That's probably when we'll be at WDW too. When I graduate, I'm considered an Executive-In-Training, and can be a little flexible in my work schedule. Once I get my license, I'll officially be a pharmacist, at which point, I'll be starting out with no vacation time. Hopefully, I'll pass the boards and law exam on the first try, and will get my license by mid July. So we'll probably head down just as soon as the kids finish schoool in June.

Just checked the kids schedule and they are out June 11th or 12th. Of course this would all depend on whether Austyn decides to take dance, because their show is usually the week after school is out. So we are good from 6/13-8/23 for probably a 10 day visit.

Our last day is the 17th of June (tentative) but that is based on 5 snow days for the year. If we don't use any (:lmao: :lmao: yeah right) then could be a few days earlier but i wouldn't count on it.

Still need that job first though :headache: .

My kids are out 6/22...plus snow days. Which means we won't know the exact day they get out until winter is over. They could have anywhere from 2 to 10 days off, depending on how bad our winter is. :sad2:

Just checked the school schedule - if we use all the snow days, the last day is June 12th. Our 20th anniversary is June 18th, so we will probably be there from the evening of the 12th through the afternoon of the 21st.

We'll probably buy new APs for that trip (it has been so weird not haveing APs this last year - old ones expired in Jan 2008) so if it doesn't work out for the family reunion, we could try and come again for that. If airfare wasn't so crazy now, I would say we "definitely" could come again, but as it is it would depend on how crazy the flights are :eek:

We wanted to do a quick visit in early November (Darrah has a 4-day weekend) but at over $250 each for the flights (plus hotel & park tickets) it just doesn't seem worth the expense... But I am going through WDW withdrawal since we haven't been there since last fall.

Pamela
 

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