$10K on a WDW vacation?!?!?--VENT

[4Seasons]

It is probably best to just choose to get over it. However, were you an hourly employee?

If so, you can't CHOOSE to work overtime for free just because you are a nice person, and would be entitled to sue for back pay.

I totally agree.

And as a small business owner myself, my personal and business finances are NEVER mixed. Period.

 

[msmayor]

I agree that normally business money and personal money are kept seperate; but morally if he had the money in his personal account to pay her the overtime he owed her then he should have paid it instead of putting it toward a $10,000 vacation. It would have been the right thing to do.

The OP never specified whether she was hourly or salaried...only that she was paid for a 40 hour workweek. If she was salaried at a 40hr workweek, it doesn't matter how many 'overtime' hours worked...there is no obligation to pay.

Now...if someone is, by agreement, being paid hourly and the overtime hours went unpaid I personally wouldn't stay past one week of unpaid overtime, and file a complaint with the local labor board. Business is business...and if overtime is due it should be paid...period...but the OP remained despite being told no money was coming.

Continuing to work without pay is allowing yourself to be taken advantage of.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

I've priced out a deluxe for our family a few times and it's in the 15,000 to 20,000 range....YIKES. I can not imagine dropping that on a vacation, heck I could spend that and buy DVC resales LOL

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$15,000-20,000 for a deluxe. Holy crap! Our family always stays deluxe and our vacations are no where near that amount.





My old boss's daughter used to drop large amounts of money on vacation. She stayed in the Walt Disney suite on DCL and stayed in a large suite with butlers when she took her family to beaches in Turks and Caicos. To each their own, but I realized she expects alot more than I do out of her vacations.

She completely hated Beaches. Are you kidding, my family loved it and mostly everyone I talked to does too. Her vacation costs $15,000 vs my family's $5,000. Things she thought was a big deal, I didn't. Not sure if its true for all people, but since she spent so much her expectations were set very high.

 

[mjkacmom]

Our last WDW vacation was about that (my parents paid ). However, we're talking airfare for 9, 6 nights 2 bedroom BCV and studio (rented points), DDP for 7 of us, 3 nights DCL, and van from port to MCO, and van from airport to home. Plus we had parkhoppers.

 

[Shelly F - Ohio]

UGH I feel your pain. Lets all ban together and pray he has terrible weather while he is there!

 

[EthansMom]

Anytime I see/hear about people overpaying for their trip, I feel kinda sorry for them. I could get at least two great trips out of $10,000.

Personally, I always go when I read a post about someone spending $10,000 or more on their "Once in a Lifetime (because they can't usually afford a trip) Trip". Just because you spend more on a vacation, house, car, what have you... doesn't mean that you enjoy it any more than someone who spent half or even one quarter of the amount you spent.

 

[SundaeAfternoon]

I understand and my husband owns a small business. You feel betrayed after doing the man a favor, actually many, many hours of favors. He took advantage of your kindness. It is funny how people see things. My thought is who would take that kind of vacation when their business is obviously in trouble in this economy and also how many people on here agree with his actions.

There was a thread like this the other day on the community board with similar responses. You are not alone in your thinking. I don't get it either!

 

[Leader of the Club]

UGH I feel your pain. Lets all ban together and pray he has terrible weather while he is there!

I thought about that, but didn't want to ruin it for anyone else. I did pray, prayed that he would have safe travel and a wonderful trip.

I suppose he called because he thought I would be really excited that he is taking the kids to Disney--and I am! I am a little shocked at how much he is spending. I know we could go for probably 25-33% of that.

I was also feeling very jealous because I could probably take my own family if he had paid me for all of the hours I worked. (He shorted my last check by $1.50 an hour for 80 hours.)

I also know that I was his number one salesperson and that business as dropped significantly since I left. I alone accounted for 45% of sales. It took 6 others to make the other 55%. I also ran the business side of things--he takes a lot of time off.

Having paid the bills for the business, I know that his personal and business finances are very mixed--neither are good.

 

[hipchickie]

But you do realize that there is a separation between the man's business finances and his personal finances, don't you? I don't know a single business owner who combines both in the same place or who uses funds from one to support the other.

Not to get off track, but plenty of business owners use funds from one to the other - it really depends on the business and how it is set up. (sole proprietorship vs. LLC, Inc., etc) however, some instances will make your accountant much more likely to want to kill you.
An owner adding capital to a business is not odd.

BTW OP, I am sorry - I would be pissed too. My old boss scammed us out of overtime, paid awful wages, made me feel awful for getting injured at work due to someones elses mistake (and did not even pay me for the lost hours when I had to go to the hospital and get my fingertip sewn back on )
Then he retired at 50 as a millionaire.
However, no one can take advantage of you unless you let them - so i am glad you saw the light and left.
Don't be jealous, think about how he (not even sure - he or she) is basically losing all this money because he/she doesn't know any better

 

[crisi]

Anytime I see/hear about people overpaying for their trip, I feel kinda sorry for them. I could get at least two great trips out of $10,000.

Personally, I always go when I read a post about someone spending $10,000 or more on their "Once in a Lifetime (because they can't usually afford a trip) Trip". Just because you spend more on a vacation, house, car, what have you... doesn't mean that you enjoy it any more than someone who spent half or even one quarter of the amount you spent.

We've spent that much, and you don't need to feel sorry for me. I'd rather go every other year and spend twice as much and have the vacation I want (and that vacation has been known to include $500 worth of Cirque tickets and $200 bottles of wine - plus we almost always have more than $2k in plane tickets now) than go every year and skimp. To each their own.

However, ours are not once in a lifetime, and we can afford them.

 

[kpm76]

I think you need to seperate the issues. You are upset because you worked hours for which you were not compensated. That's one issue and it is understandable that you would be mad. The other issue is the $10k Disney trip. That's really none of your business and so what if his kids are only 1 and 3. DH and I spent about that amount on our honeymoon.....it's really not hard to do. As others have mentioned, you have no idea where the money is coming from to fund this vacation. It may not be profits from the business at all. I agree it was strange for him to call and tell you this and disclose the cost. I worked with a small group of people for 10 years and we were all really close but never discussed the cost of vacations etc. Seems like an odd things to share, especially since you are a former employee....

 

[Handbag Lady]

It is probably best to just choose to get over it. However, were you an hourly employee?

If so, you can't CHOOSE to work overtime for free just because you are a nice person, and would be entitled to sue for back pay.

Yeah, what she said.


And I'm sure you've now learned to never work for free again.

 

[Mrs. Charming]

I thought about that, but didn't want to ruin it for anyone else. I did pray, prayed that he would have safe travel and a wonderful trip.

I suppose he called because he thought I would be really excited that he is taking the kids to Disney--and I am! I am a little shocked at how much he is spending. I know we could go for probably 25-33% of that.

I was also feeling very jealous because I could probably take my own family if he had paid me for all of the hours I worked. (He shorted my last check by $1.50 an hour for 80 hours.)

I also know that I was his number one salesperson and that business as dropped significantly since I left. I alone accounted for 45% of sales. It took 6 others to make the other 55%. I also ran the business side of things--he takes a lot of time off.

Having paid the bills for the business, I know that his personal and business finances are very mixed--neither are good.

I'm so sorry, what a jerk. I had a feeling that he wasn't one of the "on the up-and-up" business owners that doesn't mix personal and business finances.

Well, it's his loss that he lost you. You sound like a very valuable employee, if I had a business, I'd hire you! Maybe that's payback in itself, even if he doesn't quite realize it.

I hate to say this, but I wouldn't be suprised if he comes back grumbling that it was the worst 10k he ever spent, and that the CM's didn't kiss his toosh like he expected they would!

Anywho,

 

[WDWHo]

While I understand your frustration you have to remember its all relative.

I am sure there is a woman in an african village who cant believe someone would spend $1200 on a vacation.

I have learned to not care how others spend their money. As far as what you get paid or how much you work, that is your choice. Your not a slave, you have free will and choice.

Life is way to short to sweat what other people do. I would love to hear about his 10K trip, like where is he staying how long etc etc!!

 

[churchpilot]

Glad you are taking joy in your kids, house, and getting dinner on the table! Money can't buy that. Best of luck!!!

 

[crisi]

If she was in sales, a salaried position is justifyable and he doesn't need to pay her overtime. And if she was in sales, doing the books while other people were able to hold their jobs with only 10% of her output, she really simply let herself be taken advantage of...what was he going to do, fire her because she only had 130% of other people's output instead of 180%?

If things are really bad for him personally and professionally, you can add "glad I got out of there when I did" to the "things to be grateful for" list. Eventually, his irresponsibility will catch up with him and you'll be glad you got out on your own terms.

 

[Colleen27]

Now...if someone is, by agreement, being paid hourly and the overtime hours went unpaid I personally wouldn't stay past one week of unpaid overtime, and file a complaint with the local labor board. Business is business...and if overtime is due it should be paid...period...but the OP remained despite being told no money was coming.

Continuing to work without pay is allowing yourself to be taken advantage of.

 

[Colleen27]

Anytime I see/hear about people overpaying for their trip, I feel kinda sorry for them. I could get at least two great trips out of $10,000.

Personally, I always go when I read a post about someone spending $10,000 or more on their "Once in a Lifetime (because they can't usually afford a trip) Trip". Just because you spend more on a vacation, house, car, what have you... doesn't mean that you enjoy it any more than someone who spent half or even one quarter of the amount you spent.

But some people do enjoy the perks that come with spending more. And to me, it isn't about whether you enjoy it more than the next guy; it is just about enjoying it, for you and the way you like to travel.

10K doesn't sound outrageous to me for a Disney vacation, to be honest. We're going on the 4/3 offer during value season and will probably spend 7.5K all told; 8 nights at the Poly, deluxe dining, airfare for 5 people, a park-sleep-fly package at the Detroit airport, and then all those little things, tips, souvenirs, greens fees, etc. It doesn't matter if we could get two trips out of that budget, though, because we don't have two trips' worth of time available to take. So our focus is on getting the most out of the trip we can take rather than getting the most trips out of our travel budget.

 

[luvsJack]

The OP never specified whether she was hourly or salaried...only that she was paid for a 40 hour workweek. If she was salaried at a 40hr workweek, it doesn't matter how many 'overtime' hours worked...there is no obligation to pay.

Now...if someone is, by agreement, being paid hourly and the overtime hours went unpaid I personally wouldn't stay past one week of unpaid overtime, and file a complaint with the local labor board. Business is business...and if overtime is due it should be paid...period...but the OP remained despite being told no money was coming.

Continuing to work without pay is allowing yourself to be taken advantage of.

Actually, that is not necessarily true. It depends on the job. Certain jobs are exempt from paying overtime but generally even salaried employees should be paid overtime.

I am a salaried employee that normally works 35 hours a week. During registration we work many more hours than that. We are paid for anything over 40.

When my mom and I owned a child care center my assistant director was paid salary. If she worked over 40, we were required to pay her overtime.

 

[natashag76]

It is probably best to just choose to get over it. However, were you an hourly employee?

If so, you can't CHOOSE to work overtime for free just because you are a nice person, and would be entitled to sue for back pay.

I agree. This happened to my sister in law - she was made to work overtime, was not compensated. Then she got pregnant and ended up on bedrest. The office timed it so that they fired her after she gave birth and her maternity leave was over. Jerks! But she had documentation of her overtime and used that to sue her old job. It ended up becoming a class action because they did this to the majority of their employees! In the end, the employees won a decent settlement and she became a happy stay at home mom.
As for ex-boss, I would ask him why he's letting his travel agent rip him off? Since everyone on here could get close to 6 trips + out of $10K (depending on your family size of course).

Enjoy your family!!!!