100 Million Dollar Mistake

[Baloo]

Although I've never been to DCA I've only heard and read good things about Soarin'. So Disney wants to bring it to their bigger money maker ,WDW.I figure Disney thinks why change a good thing!

I really enjoyed the"story" of M:S...I felt like it did have a beginning,middle and end just like Walt liked his attractions to have.

Rock'n Robin..I think ST and BW have a back and forth "jerky" motion about them.My DH Joe who's had neck and back problems can not do these type of similator rides at all but he's fine on M:S,ToT and RnR.

dogg2727...don't you know Disney is trying to sew up ALL of Floridas touristy things right on their own property?!? There were beaches,they made there own,including waves....they made a movie studio,mini golf, water parks,a race track,a circus,a multitude of dining and shopping areas,a animal park...NASA was bound to be their next target. I'm guessing sometime in the
future Disney World will be breaking ground on it's Gator/Sealife park,as thats a couple venues they've yet to touch!

Now when WDW opens a OUTLET Mall...that will make me very happy!!!!

 

[dogg2727]

True that is an interesting explanation. I think that they nailed themselves once that space disaster happened. They should have haulted the project. I know a few people who won't ride it for that reason as well. Boycott or something I didn't go into detail with that. I don't see where you can hate TT, I think the whole idea of you being the dummy in the testing grounds is very unique. Mission Space has one of those everyday ideas to it. Go into space, oh boy look we are in a meteor field in trouble (wow didn't see that coming), land on Mars. Boy was that incredible. Took my breath away. LoL actually the G forces took care of that. Hmmm I wonder about Rockin Roller Coaster. They are G Force Records but it doesn't feel like it. MS does. Only part I like. As for the spinning, I don't think you understood me. I know you weren't suppose to feel the spinning and I didn't which is suppose to happen, but in the news people are saying that the spinning is what is making them throw up. That is why I am confused on why people are throwing up. Whatever. I am curious about Soarin'. I hope this hype is true.

 

[HappyMommy2]

Interesting comments!

We loved Mission: Space! DH rode first to try it out (I was too chicken), and after riding he practically RAN out to me and said, "If there was ever a ride you should go on, Honey, THIS is it!" So with trembling knees I went and got on. Once I got over my nervousness--right after the launch--I just enjoyed every second of it. I couldn't wipe the smile off my face! It felt so "Disney" with its fun storyline. True, it might have been a tough ride for people with motion sickness problems or claustrophobia, but for me it was pure Disney magic! I do wish it didn't end so abruptly.

I'm glad WDW is chock-full of all sorts of attractions; I really believe there is something for everyone. Perhaps Mission: Space was overhyped, but I'm definitely looking forward to riding it again when we return to WDW!

 

[disney_ac]

I was there in early December and rode the ride at about 4:30. 5 Minute wait for standby on MS, while Test Track was at 60 minutes. Although I thought the takeoff part was cool, I dont see how Disney managed to spend $100 million on a stupid spinning ride. Just because it spins really fast doesnt make it any better than a carnival ride. It made everyone that rode it with me feel queezy and gave headaches for the next hour. Ride it once if you must, but hold off until the last ride of the evening, or your might regret it.

 

[BriarRose59]

I was at WDW last week and took a behind the scenes tour. The tour guide told us that the Soarin' ride was most likely not going to be Soarin' Over California. Why would people in Florida want to soar over California? The cast members have been told the ride will be a surprise and could have Walt Disney World or great places on Earth as the focus. It has apparently been agreed that the terrain in Florida is not as exciting and diverse as that of California, so it probably will not be Soarin' Over Florida. She said the Imagineers are very secretive about these rides so we will just have to wait and see what they do. I just don't feel after talking with this cast member that it will be Soarin' Over California.

 

[TigrLvsPooh]

The first time I rode MS I did the single rider line and wasn't too thrilled with it. I thought it was very similar to Body Wars, Star Tours, Back to the Future, etc, and those are always my least favorite rides.

The second time I rode MS I went on with my two neices, ages 6 and 8, and they LOVED it! They really believed they were flying, and they took their "fake assignments" very seriously! It was so neat to see their reaction, they talked about it for days.

So, I guess that's what it's all about. It's for the kids. If you want major thrills, then go to IOA and ride the Hulk and Dueling Dragons.

 

[dogg2727]

Yeah that statement is definitely true and you love watching your young ones have a blast. It allows them to let their imaginations run wild. But then there is another problem that counterexamples that. Height restriction. I saw a young girl that was kicked out for that so the kids get screwed to. All depends on height. As for Soarin', thanks for the update rtwhite I am glad to know that. I think it would be better if the theme of that ride had something to do with the Floridians more so than California. Because even tourists who visit Florida are in that Floridian mode, not Californian (if that's a word lol). As for disney_ac, I could not possibly agree with you more, I was thinking the same exact thing. I really can't see how 100 million dollars could go into a spinning ride. I think it is a Disney gravitron with a screen. That is why I say it is really not that unique. You won't find test track at your local fair. Ok so people drive faster than 64.7 miles per hour, but where can you have the top down and do crazy turns at 45 degree angles like that. Plus as Disney_ac said, he/she waited 5 min. in Mission and 60 in test track. For a BRAND NEW attraction you would think it would be getting a humungous crowd. Whether you like TT or not don't you remember the wait was like 140 min. or something bizarre like that. I think Disney really needs to hit the drawing boards. As for soarin' I wish they could have placed it in a better location because I like that open grass area between the Land and Honey I... It is called landscaping . It seems to me they are just packing in rides.

And what about this stunt spectactular. Has anyone gone to the other side of the planet and seen it in Europe. I am actually really PO'ed about this decision because that backlot stage tour was nice, but the Osbourne Lights was Extremely Unique. I can't believe they would sacrafice the lights for a ride. I loved how everyone was packed together singing songs and feeling a Christmas vibe in the atmosphere while sipping down hot cocoa and fighting for 3d glasses. Good times Good times.

 

[Safari Steve]

A boycott of Mission:Space because of the Columbia disaster makes absolutely no sense.
Niether does your assertion that training for a launch to Mars is "an everyday thing." Where do you live? I still haven't been granted access to a NASA training facility...

Also, the Osbourne Family Spectacle of Lights was not ditched out of meanness. The spectacle is a function of WDW Entertainment/Special Events and the Action Moteurs stunt show is a project of WDI. WDI gets imminent domain, and the timing of the announcement/construction decisions did not allow WDWE/SE time to make the spectacle possible this year. WDWE is currently looking at the feasability of presenting the spectacle on New York St. or another part of property next year.

Also also, the building for Soarin' is being built in a backstage area. The grass between The Land and Imagination is not being disturbed (and niether is the water between the grass and Imagination.

 

[dogg2727]

Oh good so they are not canning the osbourne lights. I hope they don't because that was the best. And about the boycott, from their mouths to your ears I speak. I don't really mind, but others do so eh Disney had to take that into consideration. I guess those people wanted like a memorial in their honor and not build the ride. I don't know and I don't care, just sharing the facts.

 

[princssdisnygina]

I think it is all based on opinion. I myself loved Mission Space but I am not a roller coaster person, just looking to be entertained. I was not expecting it to be some huge thrill ride. I think people put their expectations too high and so it was a let down. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I think those of you that are "roller coaster people", yeah, I can see where this would be boring. But, if you are looking for the thrill then why do Disney? And again, it is just my opinion.

Gina

 

[SleepyatDVC]

Originally posted by dogg2727
Hey put it in Animal Kingdom because everything is bad there. I think the was a bad mistake too (*my opinion*). I mean who travels miles to go to a zoo. I do like the dinosaur ride though. That is cool and intense. Just bring ear plugs if you plan on using those in the future.

Lol! My kids LOVE AK. So, WE DO travel miles to go to a zoo!!!

Funny thing is we live 10 minutes from the famed Bronx Zoo and we go to AK more frequently. They love the safari ride at AK as well as the shows.

 

[fervour]

Put me down as in the middle on Mission Space. It's a unique experience --which is definitely a plus. I agree with those who say the ride is to short. I guess it's a trade off. I rode with a friend who got really sick. I don't think he'd have liked it to be any longer!

I didn't ride TT when it opened and had heard nothing of the hype. When I did ride TT, it was IMHO lame. I don't even have to ride it every time I go to Disney. I have ridden it several times just to give it another try and I always end up thinking --"ehhh, just like I remembered". MS definitely beats TT for me.

I'm looking forward to the soaring over CA attraction.

The issue of whether MS was worth $100 million is a whole different question. If I remember correctly Spiderman at IOA costed about that and is magnitudes better than MS. In that sense, I guess I can agree with the OP about it "not being worth it".

 

[SleepyatDVC]

Rode Mission Space in October with one of my Mom's friends. I "enjoyed" it but if it had been a few seconds longer, I probably would have gotten sick! Don't know if I felt the ride spinning, but my head sure was!!

As it was, it took me at least 2 hours to feel better. Bad headache, pressure/cotton in the head feeling. Worth it to go on at least once but it will be a while before I try it again! My Mom's friend was totally fine.

 

[dogg2727]

See I find it wierd hearing about these comments of people getting sick on this ride. Sure it happens on other rides, but this isn't natural for Disney to be having this many people getting sick on a ride. Sure the ride is intense in the sense of the gravity, but this is like tons of people getting sick on this ride. I mean they have never had to intall barf bags on a ride before. This ride definitely has issues in my opinion. That's funny how your kids like AK being close to a zoo anyway. I think AK is just really boring. I will put it this way, amazing animals, ok rides, but not a Disney theme park in my eyes.

 

[princssdisnygina]

I think Disney has done a great job preparing the people for what they get. I have to be honest, I really couldn't feel the spinning but I did what they said, I kept my head back and watched the screen. The people who have told me they got sick have looked away or leaned up. They tell you if you are prone to motion sickness in anyway to not ride MS. It is possible this is the first time these people experience motion sickness but in most cases people know if they can get it. The spinning is to create the G's you feel on the take off and if you are doing things the way they suggested it shouldn't create a problem, only to those with motion sickness. I don't mean to step on anyones toes but I have rode this many times and so has my mom. My mom gets motion sickness easy and she chose to ride it. She did what they suggested and she was fine. I don't think Disney is doing anything wrong as they cover all ends.

Gina

 

[EpcotJunkie]

My mother went with us and actually rode Mission Space with no problems - and she gets sick at anything. Granted, she said she'll never ride it again but she was perfectly fine. My husband and I loved it - rode it several times during our week there - after eating even. One CM told us that 1 out of 20 people get sick on it but we didn't see anyone getting sick.

Regarding the Osbourne Lights, we took the Illuminations Cruise and our captain told us that WDW isn't bringing them back but that Osbourne doesn't know that yet. Apparently that's a big topic of controversy with CMs.

 

[dogg2727]

I bet because honestly who doesn't like the osbourne lights. What's not to like and that is truly original. It irritates me to see it leave. That is like Universal Studios canning the Wild (3x) Stunt Show. Not only did I love that attraction, but that was one of the few attraction my dad liked. That would explain why we bought annual passes for Disney now and not Universal. The Osbourne lights just got you in that Christmas spirit. I have never seen so many lights on so many (well fake) houses. I hope they agree and keep them somewhere at Disney MGM. Throw them on the Great Movie Ride, that should grab some attention lol.

 

[safetymom]

I am one that really didn't care for the Osbourne lights. That was one of my scariest moments at WDW. Everyone packed in walking along the path. Getting run over by strollers and there was nowhere to escape.

The lights were too much. Moderation in lighting didn't apply here.

We love Mission Space.

 

[WDSearcher]

Originally posted by dogg2727
I bet because honestly who doesn't like the osbourne lights. What's not to like and that is truly original. It irritates me to see it leave. That is like Universal Studios canning the Wild (3x) Stunt Show. Not only did I love that attraction, but that was one of the few attraction my dad liked. That would explain why we bought annual passes for Disney now and not Universal. The Osbourne lights just got you in that Christmas spirit. I have never seen so many lights on so many (well fake) houses. I hope they agree and keep them somewhere at Disney MGM. Throw them on the Great Movie Ride, that should grab some attention lol.

How are the Osbourne Lights "truly original?" It's basically three million lights covering houses, trees, cars, and anything else in their path. Thousands of people do smaller versions of that display every year, and there are plenty of other parks (Dollywood, Stone Mountain) and cities (Branson) that do displays of their own that are as big, or pretty darn close. If Osbourne Lights are considered truly original, while Mission : Space is just a cheap little spinning ride, I'm afraid I have to differ with your definitions of those terms!

The Osbourne Lights are a huge undertaking every year, as I'm sure you can imagine. Finding an appropriate spot to put them is tough -- since it's not like you can just toss them up on the side of a wall. But Walt Disney Entertainment is indeed working on bringing them back for 2004 ... somewhere.

 

[WDSearcher]

Originally posted by dogg2727
Yeah that statement is definitely true and you love watching your young ones have a blast. It allows them to let their imaginations run wild. But then there is another problem that counterexamples that. Height restriction. I saw a young girl that was kicked out for that so the kids get screwed to.

Just for the record, kids do not get "screwed" by not being allowed to ride Mission : Space. There is a valid safety issue, as there is on any thrill ride, be it roller coaster, centrifuge or even Test Track. The young girl you saw was not "kicked out", she was not allowed to ride because she did not meet the height requirements and therefore could possibly have been injured or had a bad ride experience. Would you have preferred that?

I understand that you don't like the ride and that you don't think it provides the thrill you want. But please look at how you phrase things. Height restrictions are there for a reason and are generally set by the manufacturer of the ride, not Disney. Kids aren't being punished or "screwed" or denied something when they are not allowed to board because they're too short. They're being kept safe.