$100 a point for BCV

[tarzanman]

Is it not feasible that DVC, knowing how many people are waiting for BCV to start selling, could start offering BCV at $100/point to start? They show no signs of slowing down price increases at this time and if they start selling by the beginning of next year, VWL might be to $85 by then, if not sold out.

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[CarolMN]

Disney seems to have a pretty good handle on "what the market will bear". Even though it is selfish on my part, I'd rather see a higher buy-in cost than a point schedule that is higher than the BWV (or VWL) resort. As a BWV owner, I worry a little about the "increased competiton" for BWV reservations after the 7 month window opens. I also believe that a higher buy-in cost will make my BWV points worth more on the resale market. Of course this last is really only a plus for someone actually willing to sell. And that is NOT me!

 

[tarzanman]

I totally agree with you there. I wouldn't mind a higher resale or rental price per point. I just wonder what people think that the market is right now. Even though we don't want the price to go up, I still think that for the value $100 is not a bad price. I have bought at 3 different prices now. It is still an exceptional value.

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[nuthut]

you are absolutely right. $100 is the opening price according to the guide at the BWV member meeting

 

[tarzanman]

I thought that I heard that right. I was given that same info. That is what they are saying for the starting rate. It could go higher as time goes on. Scary huh?

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[minimahaki]

Talk about a re-sale profit.....
I said talk about I wouldn't sell for all the tea in China!!!
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[DVCDAVE]

What....? $100 per point by fall of 2002 ? Why that's a 30% price rise ! Almost 15% per annum increase. That is hard to swallow. Where is Richyams on this ?......

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[tarzanman]

I am like you. A DVC membership at VWL, BWV, and VB. I was hoping to be able to get into BCV but I might have to rent out some points that already have to raise the money to do it.

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[DVCDAVE]

First the tulip bulb mania, the south sea land bubble, rail road stocks,precious metals, baseball cards, bennnie babies, dot.com stocks.....NOW DVC !!! LOL LOL ! Don't we ever learn anything!

If it hits $100 per point that means I made 49.25% on my first 275 pts, and 37.5% on my second 275 pts. ! I think I might hit the bid and be a cash customer for a while and buy back in later on the lower price.....seriously.

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[tarzanman]

I was thinking that maybe I would still get them at $100 because if I wait, I wil have to shell out more, even on a resale.

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[PamOKW]

Well January 1999-June 2001 will be a 15% increase with the price going from $65 to $75. Disney will sell BCV for what people will pay.

I think this higher per point cost is among the factors killing offsite DVC's. People just aren't as quick to shell out that kind of cash for a non-WDW property.

There was mention yesterday of sales possibly starting in September. The question was whether that was Sept. 2001 or 2002. Does anyone know the answer on that score?

 

[DVCDAVE]

Remember, Our real estate interest is really nothing more than a triple net lease on that real estate. It has a finite life. It ends in 2042. There is a point where the price just doesn't have the economies to justify the remaining useful life of the lease. I don't know where that price is, but maybe there is a Harvard MBA on this Board who could tell us, and Disney where it is.

If demand is that strong to justify the $100 price I have to believe that Disney is smart enough to start building a lot more DVC units on site to sell more and more units, and capture all those ticket buying, trinket shiopping, food consuming guests. Just my opinion though.

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98,99,00,FW
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[DVCDAVE]

PAMOKW Quote: "Well January 1999-June 2001 will be a 15% increase with the price going from $65 to $75. "


That time period is a period of 2 1/2 years. Annualized that is not 15% it is an uncompounded 6% per annum. About twice the inflation rate nationaly. Maybe arouind the inflation rate in the Orlando Metro area.

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3/01 DVC member @ WLV
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3/02 VWL !

 

[TnRobin]

Hum lets see, but a bunch of points today at $72 (Or $67 with MB - don't need this years points). Wait until next year when BCV goes on sale for $100. Sell my points next year on resale market for $90 (net of commissions) lets see that is about a 30% Return on Investment.

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[tarzanman]

Do you think that perhaps DVC would maintain a lower purchase price for VB and HH while raising it at WDW resorts just to maintain the current sales rate?

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[TnRobin]

tarzanman

For DVC to maintain that the point value at each resort is constant (ie a HH point can be exchanged for a BWV point) the price of the points at all resorts must remain constant.

Otherwise they would have to have multiple levels of point charts. One for each resort. In addition, the people at HH and VB would not be happy if you devalued thier points

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[tarzanman]

Why would they have to do that. You only get a 7 month window at the others without being an owner there. That seems fair. I am also not speaking of a big difference but I think that $10 or so a point might make a significant inpact.

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[LIDisneyFan]

I'm starting to move to PamOKW's way of thinking -At $100/pt, it would only make sense to make this part of a DVC II - something with an end date farther out than 2042. Otherwise,the value of that 'investment' is very low. Hopefully, we'd get exchange privileges at BCV.

Also, I can't imaging anyone paying out $100/pt for HH or VB - since they're not selling out at their current price. How could Disney make those properties attractive and still keep the selling price of points the same?

Again, if BCV comanded the $100, they might have to start a new program.

 

[tarzanman]

I was thinking that at first, but it is still worth it compared to the cash prices.

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[PamOKW]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>That time period is a period of 2 1/2 years. Annualized that is not 15% it is an uncompounded 6% per annum. [/quote]

I realize it's not the 15% or 30% increase we are now discussing but it is a big change in how the prices had gone up previously. The price was at $62.75 from July 1995 to January 1999 or nearly 3 1/2 years when it went up about 4% from $62.75 to $65. To have now gone up 15% in 2 1/2 years is a big bump. It worked. Maybe they feel they can get even more.