I feel terrible, I do NOT count and I have always said I never will, If dd doesn't do as she is asked ...there is no second chance, its discipline time....no counting in this house, If I ask something I need it then not 5 secs from now. I hope that doesn't make me sound terrrible but that was something dh and I agreed on when dd was old enough to understand discipline.I guess you could call it strict but I just call it respectful.