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How many on-site guests the monorail services is irrelevant. It's those that drive in that the monorails service, and that number is not insignificant (there are a bit over 12000 parking spaces at MK. If you assume the parking lot is half full, and that there are 3 people per car on average, that's almost 20,000 per day who are not "onsite guests"). It would take a LOT of buses to replace the monorail for that traffic segment. My guess is that boats are not considered an alternative, because they likely have more maintenance issues than monorails do.
I am always amused by all the talk of replacing the monorails. Not only do I not understand why someone would long for that, but it will never happen. The monorails are a Disney icon. They will never, ever replace them. Just accept it. Disney adapting some new technology to provide transportation to AK or DHS is more possible.
when that final DVC is added in that empty spot between TTC and Contemporary
Sure it is then they start reselling the old ones with very minimal investment in upgradesThat is not the LAST planned DVC.
That is not the LAST planned DVC.
I think Disney is looking at more than just that spot for DVC. You have the river country site, DVC expansion at beach club, more DVC at poly, more at contemporary, and then moderate level DVC.Sure it is then they start reselling the old ones with very minimal investment in upgrades
If they want to improve transportation at the MK and surrounding hotels just take the cheap route and finish the Walk around the world! I'd get back to my car by walking faster then by monorail or by boat at closing. If I was at Poly or Grand I could take a leisurely stroll back to the hotel instead of being stopped at the channel there. Build me a bridge that is tall enough to up and over and let boat traffic through or pull an epcot and get some cast members there for the 5 mins it takes for the water pagent to come out and have a bridge that moves up.
The EWP is not the only thing that uses that canal. Other service craft use it as well so stationing a CM on either side for access to the canal costs time and money.
I know they are looking many places, but that could be a way to justify shutting the monorail down. You build it with a monorail platform. People buy it and pay a premium because of monorail access. Then after the resort goes live they can claim the monorail is overloaded and shut it down based on customer preferences. Adding more to Poly helps this too.I think Disney is looking at more than just that spot for DVC. You have the river country site, DVC expansion at beach club, more DVC at poly, more at contemporary, and then moderate level DVC.
It's too popular and therefore needs to be shut down? There are cases where that paradox is true, but the monorail is not one of them. If Resort hotel guests used the monorail too much, there'd be options and things they could play with to make it work. Keep in mind they're currently investing millions to make things move more smoothly and efficiently.I know they are looking many places, but that could be a way to justify shutting the monorail down. You build it with a monorail platform. People buy it and pay a premium because of monorail access. Then after the resort goes live they can claim the monorail is overloaded and shut it down based on customer preferences. Adding more to Poly helps this too.
I love a good conspiracy.
I don't see them doing anything over the lake. That would ruin views and inhibit boat traffic. Along world drive they could beef up lanes or add some other mass transit. I don't see them using trams. Though they've already invested in a compelling mass transit option, and it's not immediately clear why they would dump what they already have. Especially when they're already loved. I'd hazard a guess and say it's probably cheaper to maintain what they've already got then start from the ground up.A bridge constructed over the water and parking trams or some type of light rail system would solve that problem completely...and probably be faster/more efficient.
Which you'll need because Disney thinks they'll have 35,000,000 smiling, paying customers in that park and all...
You know - those timeshares are selling like Star Wars tickets and mine train is THAT awesome
If they want to improve transportation at the MK and surrounding hotels just take the cheap route and finish the Walk around the world! I'd get back to my car by walking faster then by monorail or by boat at closing. If I was at Poly or Grand I could take a leisurely stroll back to the hotel instead of being stopped at the channel there. Build me a bridge that is tall enough to up and over and let boat traffic through or pull an epcot and get some cast members there for the 5 mins it takes for the water pagent to come out and have a bridge that moves up.
It's too popular and therefore needs to be shut down? There are cases where that paradox is true, but the monorail is not one of them. If Resort hotel guests used the monorail too much, there'd be options and things they could play with to make it work. Keep in mind they're currently investing millions to make things move more smoothly and efficiently.
They could try any of the following:
1) Limit Resort line to Hotel Guests on the beam. This could be done thanks to MyMagic+.
2) Increase Train deployment for more hours of the day.
3) Focus on reliability.
Additionally, DVC isn't finished once it's sold. Every several years points are collected and resold like new. By eliminating the monorail, they'd hurt future sales of DVC along some of their most lucrative resorts.
Disney is into making money. Not trouble.
I don't see them doing anything over the lake. That would ruin views and inhibit boat traffic. Along world drive they could beef up lanes or add some other mass transit. I don't see them using trams. Though they've already invested in a compelling mass transit option, and it's not immediately clear why they would dump what they already have. Especially when they're already loved. I'd hazard a guess and say it's probably cheaper to maintain what they've already got then start from the ground up.
It's too popular and therefore needs to be shut down? There are cases where that paradox is true, but the monorail is not one of them. If Resort hotel guests used the monorail too much, there'd be options and things they could play with to make it work. Keep in mind they're currently investing millions to make things move more smoothly and efficiently.
They could try any of the following:
1) Limit Resort line to Hotel Guests on the beam. This could be done thanks to MyMagic+.
2) Increase Train deployment for more hours of the day.
3) Focus on reliability.
Additionally, DVC isn't finished once it's sold. Every several years points are collected and resold like new. By eliminating the monorail, they'd hurt future sales of DVC along some of their most lucrative resorts.
Disney is into making money. Not trouble.
It's too popular and therefore needs to be shut down? There are cases where that paradox is true, but the monorail is not one of them. If Resort hotel guests used the monorail too much, there'd be options and things they could play with to make it work. Keep in mind they're currently investing millions to make things move more smoothly and efficiently.
They could try any of the following:
1) Limit Resort line to Hotel Guests on the beam. This could be done thanks to MyMagic+.
2) Increase Train deployment for more hours of the day.
3) Focus on reliability.
Disney wouldn't limit the resort line to hotel guests on the beam, only because many guests not staying on the beam still go to the shows, and character dinning or signature dinning at those resorts
Yes I've heard that explanation before, but still the 5-10 minutes for two cast members, one on each side to be yanked away from their job to watch a bridge go up and down is minimal. (someone from the office backstage in plain clothes could walk out for 10 mins) It's the building of the bridge thats more expensive.....they could also just have a water bridge where you walk under the canal just like when you take the bus to the MK....no people neededThe EWP is not the only thing that uses that canal. Other service craft use it as well so stationing a CM on either side for access to the canal costs time and money.
I'm sure there are several reasons why they didn't finish the walk around the world, but I bet a big one was they couldn't find anymore guests willing to spend 85 bucks for a brick.