UPDATE p. 37. I finally canceled. Too much uncertainty for us.

[Angel Ariel]

I saw that post. I'll be the tester for day of FP+ for sure! Speaking of Wishes FP, are they available during the MVMCP Holiday Wishes, or just regular?

Fastpasses in general have never been available during hard ticketed events.

 

[bcrook]

I was just posting about this issue on another thread. I wasn't there at one of the busiest times, but I had no problem making, and changing, FP+ the day of. Even for things that weren't available the night before (specifically TSMM and Wishes) were all of a sudden available on the day of.

My CM friend told me they save some FP+ for release day before and day of. And no, he's not a bus driver

Disney execs have said they don't plan on holding any fastpasses back. There could be a flood of cancellations each morning as people change their plans. That is fascinating about your experience.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Disney execs have said they don't plan on holding any fastpasses back. There could be a flood of cancellations each morning as people change their plans. That is fascinating about your experience.

So then people get to check their phones all day. Fun! (not really)

 

[AmyB2006]

It could be but didn't they just simply take that out and fill in the ground? I see that as just open space too at least once they finished that. I don't see people complaining or at least I'm not. It is taking a remarkable amount of time to build but maybe they factored in their own normal delays for once.

Well yes but I don't think that's a "simple" process. I could be wrong. I'm certainly not in the construction business. LOL

 

[bcrook]

So then people get to check their phones all day. Fun! (not really)

You will need to check all day anyway for ride closures, bonus fastpasses, targeted advertising, and meal suggestions. Don't forget the British Revolution starts in the U.K. In 15 minutes.

Maybe Disney will add a standby feature for fastpass? If one opens up you will get a text?

 

[ArwenMarie]

You will need to check all day anyway for ride closures, bonus fastpasses, targeted advertising, and meal suggestions. Don't forget the British Revolution starts in the U.K. In 15 minutes.

Maybe Disney will add a standby feature for fastpass? If one opens up you will get a text?

(substitute phone for pc)

 

[sharadoc]

Fastpasses in general have never been available during hard ticketed events.

Yes, but there didn't used to be fastpasses at all for Fantasmic, Wishes, MSEP, etc. so I just wondered if they introduced something for the parties as well. No biggie.

 

[clsteve]

You will need to check all day anyway for ride closures, bonus fastpasses, targeted advertising, and meal suggestions. Don't forget the British Revolution starts in the U.K. In 15 minutes.

So then people get to check their phones all day. Fun! (not really)

If Darwin is right about Natural Selection, about 100 years from now all DIS'ers will be slope-backed and have foot long thumbs.....

 

[Mom2darlingboys]

I don't recall seeing that anyone said that they are never going again. Most said they are waiting until the dust settles before they make that decision. However even if someone came on here(a Disney Board) and professed that Disney sucks and they are never going again why do people care?

I don't get why someone needs to defend Disney from some anonymous person that is venting their displeasure. I think its been discussed that Disney won't miss them.

Exactly. I also don't understand when, how and why Disboarders (not all, of course) have come to expect so LITTLE of Disney?

The MB/MDE/FP+ 'rollout' is, IN MY OPINION, another in a growing list of disappointments. They have not made me love the parks less - they are still my happy place - but failure is failure. Instead of defending, I'd like to see those who know the parks so well holding Disney to a higher standard.

 

[dennis j]

Waaaaaaaa....

 

[nugov2]

mte. i understand if your family is used to pulling FPs all day, you're going to be frustrated, but there's much to learn about and enjoy in disney without doing the headliners.

I just started reading this thread and I find this statement funny...so really people should shell out 400 for tickets and learn to enjoy Mickey's Philharmonic and the characters roaming the parks. Yes, there is more than the headliners, but those headliners are what people go for. I certainly wouldn't pay that kind of money to sit in a few shows, ok rides and some smiling CM's. Some people like to travel all over and only go to WDW every few years or longer and want to do more than enjoy Disney without the headliners. That's like saying go to Hawaii and saying the beach/ocean will be closed so go enjoy other things. Yes, there is a lot of fun stuff to do there besides the beach, but that is a must do on a trip that only happens every few years.

I'm not saying I'd cancel my trip, but I am saying I am happy we had our trip in June and my kids got to ride the headliners multiple times and not wait in any long lines. I feel bad for all the people spending thousands and have all of this uncertainty.

 

[EMom]

"A friend who lives in Orlando said they had not renewed their APs due to all the changes and that the majority of people she knew were doing the same. "

HA ! You've got to be kidding! People that live in Orlando and have AP's should have the least concern over managing a visit to the park w FP + than anyone! What... you have to ride everything.. every time you go? They can visit anytime they want for a very reasonable amount of money (CHEAP) and enjoy a ride at their convenience. I simply do not buy that complaint as a reason to cancel their Ap's.
Waaaaaaaa...

You don't have to believe what my friend said. Fine with me. You certainly do not have to "buy" that her feelings (or that of her many friends) are a valid reason to not renew an AP. What matters is that THEY believe they have a valid reason to not renew because they have come to feel WDW does not value them as much as it once did. Every family must decide what to do with its own money and for some people, 4-6 APs a year actually IS a lot of money. Nothing waaaaa about it. Just people deciding how to spend their own money.

 

[kandb]

I have been on this board for years, and have never seen such rudeness. Now, we have someone mimicking the OP and pretty much telling her that her friends are liars. What gives? Are people in general just getting more nasty?

 

[EMom]

I have been on this board for years, and have never seen such rudeness. Now, we have someone mimicking the OP and pretty much telling her that her friends are liars. What gives? Are people in general just getting more nasty?

To be fair, it was unclear whether he/she was calling ME a liar or MY FRIEND a liar. Wait......Which of those is worse?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

Goodness, who would have thought me canceling my own vacation (no one else's) would elicit such knicker twisting?

 

[patty57]

Goodness, who would have thought me canceling my own vacation (no one else's) would elicit such knicker twisting?

EMom, I totally supported you and your position before this post, but anyone using the phrase "knicker twisting"...now I want to be your best friend.

 

[glammadiva]

First, OP and all the others who are cancelling over the FP+ and MB situation. I am sorry for your dissapointments. For the rest of you, I just completed my 3rd magic band trip, and while I booked my FP+ for all 3 trips, I only used some of them for the first 2. The others I didn't need. Yes, there were a couple of glitches at check in, this trip, but I stayed calm and nice and didn't go all crazy like the guestzilla I saw on Thursday, it took the CM a short amount of time to fix my problem and I happily went on my way. Its all about attitude sometimes. I am so sad to check out today.

 

[EMom]

EMom, I totally supported you and your position before this post, but anyone using the phrase "knicker twisting"...now I want to be your best friend.

Consider it done! And since I usually save "New Best Friend" status for people who say things like, "I thought you were at least 10 years younger," you've fastpassed to the front of the line.

 

[AmyB2006]

Exactly. I also don't understand when, how and why Disboarders (not all, of course) have come to expect so LITTLE of Disney? The MB/MDE/FP+ 'rollout' is, IN MY OPINION, another in a growing list of disappointments. They have not made me love the parks less - they are still my happy place - but failure is failure. Instead of defending, I'd like to see those who know the parks so well holding Disney to a higher standard.

Not everyone sees it as a failure. I get why people do I just disagree. To me it is not a failure.

 

[OtherScott]

I just started reading this thread and I find this statement funny...so really people should shell out 400 for tickets and learn to enjoy Mickey's Philharmonic and the characters roaming the parks. Yes, there is more than the headliners, but those headliners are what people go for. I certainly wouldn't pay that kind of money to sit in a few shows, ok rides and some smiling CM's. Some people like to travel all over and only go to WDW every few years or longer and want to do more than enjoy Disney without the headliners. That's like saying go to Hawaii and saying the beach/ocean will be closed so go enjoy other things. Yes, there is a lot of fun stuff to do there besides the beach, but that is a must do on a trip that only happens every few years.

I'm not saying I'd cancel my trip, but I am saying I am happy we had our trip in June and my kids got to ride the headliners multiple times and not wait in any long lines. I feel bad for all the people spending thousands and have all of this uncertainty.

I think the vast majority of Disney visitors are happy with doing pretty much what you've described as not appealling. Strip away the atmosphere created by Disney's theming and most would be dissatisfied with a day full of riding headliners - they're just not that good.

Maybe people who visit Disney annually or even more frequently lose sight of what most visitors find appealling?

 

[nugov2]

Not everyone sees it as a failure. I get why people do I just disagree. To me it is not a failure.

I don't think that people see it as a failure since it is too new to really make that decision. It is just the roll out has been done very poorly. The technology isn't where it needs to be, the public isn't really being kept in the loop and the rules are constantly changing. I am sorry, but if people spend thousands of dollars both on site and off and this is not the proper way to implement a system for those guest spending so much. Like I said before, I don't know if I would cancel, but I am just very happy we were on vacation before this came into play. This may be the best system ever in the future, but for the people stuck in MB limbo it isn't right. I think it is probably OK for now, but what about in a few weeks when the park is jammed? We went during high season this past June and had a very enjoyable time. I don't think that will be the case for the next few months unless these kinks really get worked out.

I don't know what is the solution until the system is functional, but if I was spending the kind of money we just spent in WDW and had this looming I would be very disappointed. They need to figure something out and limiting what FP you can get especially at Epcot to one headliner is horrible. Sorry I get that WDW has the right to change their park programs, but people have a right to be unhappy. The park for some people is the rides, especially for families who don't want to take yearly WDW vacations. I guarantee if your box of cheerios switched their 20oz box to 10oz, but kept the price the same and told you it was for your own good people would be crying foul. It is basically the same thing at WDW. They are downgrading their system(at least for the time being) or for some eliminating a system and expecting guests to fork over the same amount of money all while telling you how great it is for you.