Would you leave your 12 year old in the gift shop...

[tiffjoy]

What you are doing is called projecting. As in making up imaginative scenarios that fit with your particular attitude towards parenting.

Maybe she's an alien and the stall is her way of teleporting him to her home planet. Maybe, maybe, maybe...

The poster was simply describing something that she witnessed. The mother's behavior was obviously inappropriate and unacceptable in that situation. And more especially given the availability of companion bathrooms in the park.

I find it immensely interesting that you have no qualms about justifying that woman's actions. Now imagine the identical scenario, except that it is a man who is physically dragging a crying and uncooperative little girl into a men's room. I suppose you would just shrug your shoulders and not give it a moment's thought?

No, projecting would be if I deny my own personal thoughts or beliefs are my own and instead attribute them to another person.

You are then re-imaging the scenario and changing the persons involved in an attempt to prove yourself right when one scenario has nothing to do with the other. The scenario presented was a mother and son; postulating what I would think if this was instead a father and daughter has nothing at all to do with my points. That's a faulty analogy.

See how silly this can get? Or... You can just allow me to have my own opinion. I stated what I thought- that no one can know what was going on between that mother and son. That's it.

 

[GooglieBear]

I'm 13 now, but when I was 12 my sister (age 7) and I waited for my parents. They went on EE and RNRC while we waited. I consider my parents super over protective and I was surprised but happy that they know I am mature enough to wait 10-15 minutes with my sister and a cell phone. We even made friends with other kids that were waiting for their grown ups.

 

[eliza61]

i'm just curious as to what age the line is drawn for boys to be in the ladies room.

I imagine some mothers feel just as unsettled leaving their 13 year old boys waiting alone.

What's too old for people that don't have a problem 9/10 years in there?

lol 42. Then it's daddy who can't let his 10 year old daughter out of his sight and doesn't want them in the mens room so he goes with her in the ladies room and we shouldn't feel uncomfortable and we simply explain why there is a grown man in the ladies bathroom.

It's called any thing is ok as long as my needs are met.

 

[Peter Fan]

What you are doing is called projecting. As in making up imaginative scenarios that fit with your particular attitude towards parenting.

Maybe she's an alien and the stall is her way of teleporting him to her home planet. Maybe, maybe, maybe...

The poster was simply describing something that she witnessed. The mother's behavior was obviously inappropriate and unacceptable in that situation. And more especially given the availability of companion bathrooms in the park.

I find it immensely interesting that you have no qualms about justifying that woman's actions. Now imagine the identical scenario, except that it is a man who is physically dragging a crying and uncooperative little girl into a men's room. I suppose you would just shrug your shoulders and not give it a moment's thought?

I think you are the one projecting cuz you don't know whats going on either.

 

[Peter Fan]

lol 42. Then it's daddy who can't let his 10 year old daughter out of his sight and doesn't want them in the mens room so he goes with her in the ladies room and we shouldn't feel uncomfortable and we simply explain why there is a grown man in the ladies bathroom.

It's called any thing is ok as long as my needs are met.

What exactly is everybody doing in these bathrooms behind a stall where no one can see you any way? I could care less who was in there. I'm behind my door and they are behind their door. Pee and get out

 

[mom2rtk]

I could see that making a teen girl feel awkward but, as long as no peering or other inappropriate behavior is occurring (which it shouldn't be since the mom in question should be observing her son as best as she can in this situation) this is something the teen girl should get over very quickly.

So you're telling the teen girl dealing with personal hygeine issues in the women's restroom...... complete with gaps in the door frame...... to get OVER havng an older boy right outside the door?

Maybe the insecure mother of the 9/10 year old boy is the one who needs to "get over it"!

 

[eliza61]

What exactly is everybody doing in these bathrooms behind a stall where no one can see you any way? I could care less who was in there. I'm behind my door and they are behind their door. Pee and get out

following that logic, why have separate restrooms then. If no one can see your and no one cares. Just have one big ole communal rest room.

Most people do care.

 

[Kona65]

following that logic, why have separate restrooms then. If no one can see your and no one cares. Just have one big ole communal rest room.

Most people do care.

So I'm guessing you haven't been to any professional sport games or concerts. I see more women in the men's room than men....TDBIASWS.

 

[eliza61]

So I'm guessing you haven't been to any professional sport games or concerts. I see more women in the men's room than men....TDBIASWS.

heehee, That's not because they don't care, that's because for some reason we women take godawful long in there and the line is always out the door. You'd miss half the event waiting in line.

I've also seen them post a lookout at the door to make sure no men enter while they are there.

 

[Peter Fan]

So you're telling the teen girl dealing with personal hygeine issues in the women's restroom...... complete with gaps in the door frame...... to get OVER havng an older boy right outside the door?

Maybe the insecure mother of the 9/10 year old boy is the one who needs to "get over it"!

I think you're the one that is insecure. Nobody is watching you!

 

[Kona65]

heehee, That's not because they don't care, that's because for some reason we women take godawful long in there and the line is always out the door. You'd miss half the event waiting in line.

I've also seen them post a lookout at the door to make sure no men enter while they are there.

I will never understand why, the womens bathrooms seem to have the least amount of toilets...TDBIASWS.

 

[ccgirl]

I understand what you're saying, but what will you do with your son when he's 10 and alone with you if he has to go to the bathroom at the mall? (Sorry for the predictability in a bathroom question ).

I will send him in to go to the bathroom in the men's room and wait by the door. Heck, he just turned 5 and yells when I try to take him in the girls room that he is not a girl. Once he is able to wipe his butt himself, I plan on letting him use the correct gender bathrooms.

 

[mom2rtk]

I think you're the one that is insecure. Nobody is watching you!

I'm not even talking about me. After years of infertility treatment and 3 child births, my modesty is long gone. If someone peeked at me, I'd probably just wave at them.

I'm speaking as the mother of an adolescent girl, who is in a far different place in life that I am. She deserves a resonable amount of privacy as she deals with hygeine issues. You know. In the "women's" restroom.

 

[Peter Fan]

I'm not even talking about me. After years of infertility treatment and 3 child births, my modesty is long gone. If someone peeked at me, I'd probably just wave at them.

I'm speaking as the mother of an adolescent girl, who is in a far different place in life that I am. She deserves a resonable amount of privacy as she deals with hygeine issues. You know. In the "women's" restroom.

But you are the one assuming she cares. She may not. Nobody knows!

 

[mom2rtk]

But you are the one assuming she cares. She may not. Nobody knows!

Still making assumptions?

How can you possibly know whether we have had this discussion?

 

[Melodious]

I'm not even talking about me. After years of infertility treatment and 3 child births, my modesty is long gone. If someone peeked at me, I'd probably just wave at them.

I'm speaking as the mother of an adolescent girl, who is in a far different place in life that I am. She deserves a resonable amount of privacy as she deals with hygeine issues. You know. In the "women's" restroom.

As someone who is presumably closer in life to being a teenaged girl, I'll admit. I Care! There are gaps in the doorway. When I was a teen hygiene in a public bathroom period was hard, much less if a 9yo boy was there

 

[Melodious]

And also there is a reason colleges have coed bethrooms and not high schools. There's a world of difference when you're 15 and when you're 18 at college

 

[mom2rtk]

And also there is a reason colleges have coed bethrooms and not high schools. There's a world of difference when you're 15 and when you're 18 at college

And just imagine middle school, when girls are just coming to terms with all of this.

 

[robinb]

But you are the one assuming she cares. She may not. Nobody knows!

Are you saying that she doesn't know how her teen daughter feels about changing her feminine hygiene items in a public bathroom? I know how my teen daughter feels about it.

 

[susanm]

i would check with disney and see what they say about the line....maybe you can do something like the baby swap...she could stand in line with you then when you actually get on a disney cm can escort your DD to the exit where she can wait.... worth a phone call