Your pharmacist may be switching your meds

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I knew that many states permitted a Pharmacist to fill a prescription using the generic equivalent (unless the doctor wrote do not substitute) but this is the first time I have ever heard of "therapeutic substitution" by a pharmacist.

Has this happened to anyone?
 
I think this happened to me.

CVS decided to replace my birth control pills with another birth control pill. They claimed it did the same thing, but my doctor wasn't really happy about it since we had been trying different ones for six-months at a time to find the exact right one for me. The packaging was different but it turns out the Rx they gave me was cheaper for them to buy (yet they billed me the same amount!) I refused the Rx and called my doctor.

I just switched to another pharmacy and since then, I'm super-extra careful about making sure what the doctor writes is what I get.
 
Happened to my DH. We now have to make sure that the doctor has checked the "Do Not Substitute" box everytime. The pharmacy actually called the first time to double check that the doctor wanted the brand name. THen they kept telling DH that there's a cheaper generic. What do they care if we save money? :confused3 He needs the drug that works and not a substitute.
 
My situation was a little different. My insurance won't pay if there is any possible generic. My Dr. wrote do not substitute, and the pharmacist was nice, but not happy about my insurance rules. He apologized, and said he doesn't like to have to go against Dr's orders. (And then he went ahead and filled the prescrip with a "generic".)
 

My medications have never been substituted. But I am the first to request that my doctor prescribe a cheaper generic if one is available. If the generic drug doesn't work and one only available as a brand name might, I am willing to give it a try even though the co-pay doubles! I will probably be switched from simvastatin to Lipitor when I visit the doctor this month just because my cholesterol went up after starting on the simvastatin. I used to be on Vytorin which my insurance raised to the highest co-pay level this year!

I am aware that substitutions can occur and do check my prescriptions to make sure that what my doctor requested is what I got. Unless the pharmacist asks me first. For instance, when Glucophage became available as a generic, he asked me did I want to switch. Of course I did - I saved 50%!
 
Maybe one reason they do it so they can charge the same to the patient but their costs are much lower, so the pharmacy makes more money.

I'm just sayin'...

agnes!
 
Maybe one reason they do it so they can charge the same to the patient but their costs are much lower, so the pharmacy makes more money.

I'm just sayin'...

agnes!

I'm not so sure it's that nefarious. A lot of pharmacies sell generics for $4 or $5 for a 30 day supply . . . no profit motivation reason for them to try to get you to switch. Also a lot of insurances reimburse pharmacies at "wholesale" plus a fixed "professional fee."
 
I'm not so sure it's that nefarious. A lot of pharmacies sell generics for $4 or $5 for a 30 day supply . . . no profit motivation reason for them to try to get you to switch. Also a lot of insurances reimburse pharmacies at "wholesale" plus a fixed "professional fee."


I don't think it works that way for every drug. Often the profit margins are much higher for the generic. They perhaps make a couple of bucks on the name brand, but are able to mark up the generic $10-15 bucks.

I had one where I looked at the bill and did a double take. My insurance company hadn't approved the generic yet, but the pharmacy gave it to me any way. I guess they didn't think I'd notice that the box was completely different an dit cost $100 more than usual, not to mention a big zero on the insurance coverage for a drig I'd taken for years.
 
Pharmacists are often tasked with substituting generics based on insurance requirements. The conditions under which medications can be substituted are regulated by state and/or federal law, and great pains are taken to abide by those laws while meeting the needs of the customer. If something is a "generic equivalent", it will act the same as the brand in most people (of course there are some exceptions). Sometimes pharmacies are at the will of manufacturer issues. Is BrandX backordered? Do we not fill any prescriptions, or do we bring in product from a different manufacturer? Do we tell multiple patients that we can't fill their script, or do we fill it with a generic equivalent? This happens more often than you can imagine. Class similarities (such as statins, used in the article) are also generally accepted as working similarly, but I can't imagine any pharmacist I've ever known would arbitrarily decide to change your meds from one medication to another, even within a class, without proper regulatory support - insurance, law, dr orders, etc. I just don't see it happening.

Many (most?)customers care only about the price of the med, not the name of it. Some even regularly choose not to take certain meds because of the price (even when they can afford it) or a sense of "knowing better" than the dr (things like: my dad had high cholesterol his whole life and he lived to be 100 without taking meds). Pharmacists work hard to balance safety, customer service, regulatory and insurance requirements and compassion. Most do a great job of it.

It is always a good idea to know exactly what medication you're on, what it is for, what the intended effects are and what expected side effects are. Also, particularly with chronic meds, it's good to note when there is a change in your manufacturer. Most times going from brand to generic#1 to generic #2 to brand to generic, etc makes no difference. Sometimes it does. It's always helpful if you can pinpoint the change to a change in manufacturer.

I'm sure it's happening to people, but I'm confident that it's not nefarious and it's not malicious. Just pay attention to why your prescriber put you on a particular med, and pay attention to the med itself.
**Disclaimer - I've spent many years working in pharmacies and with pharmacists, but I am not one. This post is my opinion, but in no way is it a "professional" opinion.
 
They switched my one generic birth control pill to another generic birth control pill. They did tell me about it though, and so far it's working just fine. :goodvibes
 
It's done frequently. I am a nurse, and we have lists and lists of TIPs (therapeutic interchange protocols)

IMO, by insisting on the brand name, just because it is a brand name, we are just subsidizing the drug companies and allowing them to continue to overcharge. If a cheaper, or generic drug does the same thing, I don't see the need to waste my money.
 
There are insurance companies who will only pay for generic if it's available. You want the brand, you need to pay out of pocket. Other insurance companies will cover brand, but at a significantly higher out of pocket cost than the equivalent generic. The customer needs to be aware of their own insurance plan and what is covered and what is not. It is not the doctor or the pharmacists responsibility to know every insurance plan and what medication is covered at what price-point; it is the patient's responsibility to know or ask.

Here the doctor must hand write 'Brand medically necessary' on the prescription, checking the do not substitute box is not adequate. Oh, and pharmacists do not substitute without verifying and getting permission from the doctor. Other states differ of course, our laws can be found at the Secretary of State website.
http://sos.georgia.gov/plb/pharmacy/
 


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