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The FCC is beginning it's gradual process of upgrading digital TV to ATSC 3.0. This means that broadcasters will eventually stop broadcasting an older standard of digital TV called ATSC 1.0. This could mean you MAY have to buy new equipment or even adapters.

The current proposal (not set in stone) is to let the broadcasters choose WHEN to switch, unlike in the analog TV shutoff in 2009 where most full power stations had to shut down altogether by June 12 at midnight. Cable and satellite viewers are currently not affected although there is still a grey area as to if the providers will pipe in the full ATSC 3.0 experience.
 
Before people panic... TVs will continue to work. What MIGHT not work is the built in tuner in them. TVs will still take feeds from DVD players, streaming services, cable & satellite providers, and computers.

It's estimated ATSC 3.0 reaches 75% of households, and is in 70 markets. Keep in mind that there are over 200 markets, so there's still a lot of places without service.

Here's the list of markets with ATSC 3.0 (as of January 2025): https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/atsc-30-deployments-where-and-when-will-nextgen-tv-be-available

There are already "set top boxes" you can purchase to receive the ATSC 3.0 signal and pass to your current TV. If you're shopping for one, make sure it's ATSC 3.0 or "NextGen" capable. If it just says "ATSC tuner", I wouldn't consider it. Amazon has tuners ranging from $100-200.

During the switch from analog to digital in 2009, the government either handed out tuners or provided coupons for them (I can't remember which).

We're at least years away from ATSC 1.0 being turned off IMO.
 
I’m amazed at the number of people who cut the cord by going OTA and not streaming.

An estimated 20% of US households have at least one TV setup for OTA. Are they counting homes like mine where it is setup but we have not watched OTA in years?
 

Are they counting homes like mine where it is setup but we have not watched OTA in years?
Counting in what way? The stat is ATSC 3.0 "reaches" 75% of households. I don't think that means people are actually watching it, just that it's available to them if they so choose.
 
Counting in what way? The stat is ATSC 3.0 "reaches" 75% of households. I don't think that means people are actually watching it, just that it's available to them if they so choose.
The stat I mentioned in my post:
An estimated 20% of US households have at least one TV setup for OTA.

Are they(nielson? who ever is counting) including my home in that 20%? I am setup to watch OTA, though I have not in many years.
 
The stat I mentioned in my post:


Are they(nielson? who ever is counting) including my home in that 20%? I am setup to watch OTA, though I have not in many years.
Like any other stat, I'm sure they've taken a sample and extrapolated it out to cover the country. So is your TV "counted"? Depends on how the people answering the poll answered.

What would you say to the question "Do you have at least one television set up for OTA?" I'm assuming, but I'd say the answer sheet doesn't have a way to put in "Yes, but... "
 
I carry my Firestick every where. That way I can watch what I want, including the local channels from my area, where ever I want. I can usually get it to work on most TVs and I carry a few different remotes for the common ones as well as a programmable remote for the un-common ones. I hate the hotel remotes in most places which are very limited in function.
 
What is the main driver behind people still watching OTA broadcasts?

Is it cost? People don't want to or can't afford to pay for a streaming service?

Is it technophobia? People who have watched TV the same way for decades and are not going to change?

Something else?

With about 132 million US households I am just amazed that 26 million are watching OTA on a regular basis.

Other than cost, which admittedly is a good reason, streaming with a cloud based DVR is so superior over any OTA DVR device.

I remember back to when I was recording OTA. It was during the birth of HD OTA broadcasts and I had a ATSC card in a computer and some software that got an online guide so I could schedule recordings not just by time but also by show, emulating a TiVo but in HD long before TiVo supported HD.

It was a pain.

Football season meant recordings were often wrong on CBS and FOX and despite having a large antenna I still would suffer through reception issues. I also had to manage storage space, often having to discard movies I had recorded to make way for new prime time TV shows. The software was buggy and required a great deal of baby sitting to make sure it was actually going to record.

Streaming solves those issues and so many more.

Cloud based DVR often get real time schedule updates and record correctly even when sports runs over or you have the option to watch the on demand version if your requested recording is messed up in some way.

The streaming services often receive the OTA via a fiber link and not an OTA antenna, greatly minimizing reception issues.

And you generally never have to worry about running out of space and can record as much as you want with streaming services.
 
What is the main driver behind people still watching OTA broadcasts?

Is it cost? People don't want to or can't afford to pay for a streaming service?

Is it technophobia? People who have watched TV the same way for decades and are not going to change?

Something else?

With about 132 million US households I am just amazed that 26 million are watching OTA on a regular basis.

Other than cost, which admittedly is a good reason, streaming with a cloud based DVR is so superior over any OTA DVR device.

I remember back to when I was recording OTA. It was during the birth of HD OTA broadcasts and I had a ATSC card in a computer and some software that got an online guide so I could schedule recordings not just by time but also by show, emulating a TiVo but in HD long before TiVo supported HD.

It was a pain.

Football season meant recordings were often wrong on CBS and FOX and despite having a large antenna I still would suffer through reception issues. I also had to manage storage space, often having to discard movies I had recorded to make way for new prime time TV shows. The software was buggy and required a great deal of baby sitting to make sure it was actually going to record.

Streaming solves those issues and so many more.

Cloud based DVR often get real time schedule updates and record correctly even when sports runs over or you have the option to watch the on demand version if your requested recording is messed up in some way.

The streaming services often receive the OTA via a fiber link and not an OTA antenna, greatly minimizing reception issues.

And you generally never have to worry about running out of space and can record as much as you want with streaming services.

For me, it is the cost but also that I'm just not watching the cable channels that I get with DirecTV Stream. I have been thinking about going with a Tablo because I still want to watch some network shows, but there is just nothing on the cable channels that I watch, other than on FX, which Hulu would solve for me (at a fifth of the price!). Everything else I watch are just re-runs of shows liek Law & Order and Simpsons/Bob's Burgers/Family Guy - mostly background noise (and again, can be solved for with Hulu and the LAw & Order FAST Channel that I already get in a few ways). They want to keep increasing my rates, and it's just not worth what I get out of it. That said, I am a little hesitant about reception issues, but still, for how much I watch these days, I still think I want to go that way.
 
What is the main driver behind people still watching OTA broadcasts?

Is it cost? People don't want to or can't afford to pay for a streaming service?

Is it technophobia? People who have watched TV the same way for decades and are not going to change?

Something else?

With about 132 million US households I am just amazed that 26 million are watching OTA on a regular basis.

Other than cost, which admittedly is a good reason, streaming with a cloud based DVR is so superior over any OTA DVR device.

I remember back to when I was recording OTA. It was during the birth of HD OTA broadcasts and I had a ATSC card in a computer and some software that got an online guide so I could schedule recordings not just by time but also by show, emulating a TiVo but in HD long before TiVo supported HD.

It was a pain.

Football season meant recordings were often wrong on CBS and FOX and despite having a large antenna I still would suffer through reception issues. I also had to manage storage space, often having to discard movies I had recorded to make way for new prime time TV shows. The software was buggy and required a great deal of baby sitting to make sure it was actually going to record.

Streaming solves those issues and so many more.

Cloud based DVR often get real time schedule updates and record correctly even when sports runs over or you have the option to watch the on demand version if your requested recording is messed up in some way.

The streaming services often receive the OTA via a fiber link and not an OTA antenna, greatly minimizing reception issues.

And you generally never have to worry about running out of space and can record as much as you want with streaming services.
I have always preferred OTA over satellite/cable and now streaming for a number of reasons...

1) Bandwidth. OTA gives you the full bandwidth available for the signal. Satellite/cable, even if they're getting a fiber feed from the station (not always common) adds compression to get the signal to the headend, then more compression to get it back out to the TV. So OTA gives you the best bandwidth. Granted, it doesn't help when the station puts up a bunch of subchannels, stealing bandwidth from the "main" channel, but everything would be affected by that.
2) Dependency. I'm not dependent on a 3rd party and their associated equipment. This is true whether it's sat/cable or streaming. For either of those, the signal needs to get from the station to the provider, then from the provider all the way to a house. That's a lot of equipment that can go wrong. Yes, there are redundancies built in, but can still cause problem. My antenna goes to an amp, a two way splitter, then to two TVs. I still get reception even if my internet goes out.
3) Time delay. I just did a rough measurement and checked receiving my local NBC via Hulu Live vs OTA. Hulu was delayed by about 30 seconds. Generally not a big deal, but I like watching live events as "live" as possible.

I'm pretty sure most streaming services are getting the feeds at the stations themselves and sending over internet (which is fiber), but again, adds complexity.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against streaming. As you said, the DVR functions are a big benefit.

Just some reasons why *I* prefer OTA, when available.
 
Many of these types of announcements first make it sound like the world in ending and everyone will have to buy a new TV.............eventually that turns out to not be the case and at most you have to buy some sort of 'adaptable' and/or they change the 'standard'. Not anything I lose sleep over................LOL.

Still have cable and it works fine. Don't care to spend frustrating hours/days trying to get various 3rd party devices setup/configured/working and good luck finding ANYONE for assistance when you have 'issues'. My past experience with any type of electronic device is each party will say the problem is with the other provider's device, so you go around in circles trying to find a resolution. Customer service is some off-shore call center where the people can barely speak English and seem to know less about the device than I do. Most have never seen/used the device and seem to be reading from a list of the 10 most commonly asked questions. After spending a frustrating 45 minutes with them, you realize they have NO idea how to resolve your issue. When you add up all the various costs for alternative viewing methods and get past the free/special rates, I wonder how much people are actually saving?
 
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Many of these types of announcements first make it sound like the world in ending and everyone will have to buy a new TV.............eventually that turns out to not be the case and at most you have to buy some sort of 'adaptable' and/or they change the 'standard'. Not anything I lose sleep over................LOL.
How many announcements like this have their been? There was the switch from analog to digital broadcasting, and yes, you either needed to buy a new TV or an outboard tuner. That one affected everyone since the switch was government mandated. 99% of broadcasters HAD to change their transmitters.

This one, I'm not convinced stations, on their own, will elect to turn off ATSC 1.0 transmitters until they're comfortable they'll get enough 3.0 viewers. If the government doesn't mandate it, I'm just not sure it's going to happen, much less "soon".
 
The NAB wants the switch to happen as soon as 2028 in large markets. The smaller broadcasters are resisting due to new equipment costs.

The little guy rarely wins.

The NAB suggested timeline to the FCC matches closely to the original NTSC to ATSC conversion
 
The NAB wants the switch to happen as soon as 2028 in large markets. The smaller broadcasters are resisting due to new equipment costs.

The little guy rarely wins.

The NAB suggested timeline to the FCC matches closely to the original NTSC to ATSC conversion
What's preventing a station from turning off their 1.0 signal now (or in 2028), regardless of whether viewers are "ready"? Will viewers invest in new technology if they don't have to? It's sort of a "chicken or egg" thing.

ETA: NAB wants to do what's best for it's members... the broadcasters. It's not concerned with what's best for viewers.
 
What's preventing a station from turning off their 1.0 signal now (or in 2028), regardless of whether viewers are "ready"? Will viewers invest in new technology if they don't have to? It's sort of a "chicken or egg" thing.

ETA: NAB wants to do what's best for it's members... the broadcasters. It's not concerned with what's best for viewers.
Money

When the channels determine that the DRM baked into 3.0 will make them more money than remaining on 1.0, they will turn off 1.0.

Or the FCC will receive enough “donations” aka bribes to schedule a mandatory switch date.

I think 2028 is believable.
 





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