You know what really irks me...

[jackson2422]

Getting on the monorail to Epcot, and at least 6 young, able bodied people don't offer their seat to a woman holding a toddler. Now some were teenagers who really don't know better, but it is the men that don't offer who really bug me.

 

[lost*in*cyberspace]

I agree that this was bad manners, but maybe they didn't know any better. Did you ask if one of them would give you their seat, or did you fume silently? You could have always waited for another monorail.

 

[LilyWDW]

Getting on the monorail to Epcot, and at least 6 young, able bodied people don't offer their seat to a woman holding a toddler. Now some were teenagers who really don't know better, but it is the men that don't offer who really bug me.

These never go well...

If the woman couldn't stand, then she should have waited until she could get a seat. Personal responsibility. Plus, judging people is not cool when you don't know their side of the story.

 

[tajz90]

Always give a seat to someone holding baby/ toddler, man or woman. It irritates me to see young bucks just sit there.

On the flip side, I don't like it when the bus or monorail is filled and a parent will let a very small child take up a chair when the child could easily sit in their lap.

Yes, one should have personal responsibility. We have often skipped a bus because we wanted to sit, but we still always offer our chairs to the elderly and parents.

 

[Chelley00]

These threads never end well. How do you know one of those men weren't "able bodied". Maybe they have a disability that you can't see.

And don't lump teens in with every other teen. My teenagers would give up their seat.

Don't judge.

 

[crashbb]

Yes, one should have personal responsibility. We have often skipped a bus because we wanted to sit, but we still always offer our chairs to the elderly and parents.

That's my philosophy - I will give up my seat to someone who seems to need it more than I do (and I'm a woman - not sure why the OP is only upset by men who don't give up there seats), but I don't assume that someone will offer me a seat if I feel the need to sit (I have Lupus and some days do feel the need for seat) and I don't mentally (or otherwise) criticize those that don't give up their monorail (or WDW bus) seat.

 

[gwynne]

If you saw me sitting, you might think, why doesn't she give up her seat?
I fracture easily. It's being worked on, medically, but I never board WDW transport without quickly assessing if a seat is available. If not, I just wait for the next one. (Sometimes that means that I briefly stop assess..(easy on the monorail, on buses I walk up the steps, count, and if it looks like a no go, I politely disembark.) No biggie.

 

[BuzzLiteyear]

Personally, I rarely sit on the bus or monorail. I figure that as long as I am able to walk/stand, there is probably someone who needs the seat more than I do. My DD15 has adopted the same philosophy. She rarely sits either.

I am bothered when I see someone holding a child or in obvious need of a seat made to stand. Am I judging? I sure am. Do I say anything to the person? No, it's not my place. In the end all I can do is what I think is right.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I am a big beleiver in personal responsiblity.........and big beleiver in common courtsey........The idea that a ablebodied person would not give up thier seat to someone who needs it, is plain poor parenting and more so.........plainly rude! This goes for male female, young or older!


AKK

 

[natfrac]

At home I take the bus to work and rarely do "gentlemen" offer up their seats. When a disabled person is boarding, the women are the first to move to accomodate the mobility device. However, if a man offers his seat to me, more often than not it's a young man (teens, early twenties). I don't need their seat, but it makes me feel good knowing that some young people are still raised with manners.
I also agree with the personal responsibility comments. I would not board a full monorail or bus expecting someone to give up their seat if I'm unable to stand.

 

[Jenny3]

I can see both sides of this; on one hand, if an able-bodied person gave up their seat every time a woman with a child needed one, they would probably never get to sit down. It is WDW!

OTOH, some people are just rude and we experienced that while at Disney last year. My 7 y/o niece is in a wheelchair and you'd be shocked at the number of people who wouldn't move over in lines so she had room to pass, or were annoyed when we got on a bus and they lost their seat so the driver could strap her chair in the designated area. Some people just suck sometimes.

 

[maxiesmom]

Getting on the monorail to Epcot, and at least 6 young, able bodied people don't offer their seat to a woman holding a toddler. Now some were teenagers who really don't know better, but it is the men that don't offer who really bug me.

I find the idea that only men should offer their seats to those in need horribly old fashioned, and not in a good way. We should all do what we can to help each other out, male or female.

Having said that, I think it is horribly inappropriate to get on a bus/monorail/boat that is standing room only, expecting someone to offer you their seat. Be grateful when offered the courtesy, but don't expect it as your due. You truly don't know what is going on with other people and have no way of knowing if someone else needs their seat.

 

[usd2bmd]

I try not to judge for myself whether or not they are able bodied. There is a lot that I can not tell from looking at someone sitting ina set on a bus or monorail. If I look when the bus/monorail pulls up and it appears to be full, I have a choice. I can stand or wait for the next one. I don't ever expect anyone to move for me because for all I know they have a medical condition or disability which means they need the seat more than I.

 

[ladypage]

I always give up my seat if I can, as a young woman. I don't think it's just a male thing.

Still, there are sometimes that I won't, because I can't. On the outside I look like I'm able bodied and have no problems, but I can tell you that physical therapy is the only thing that made it possible. I have a problem with my knee that most people will never notice. I rarely limp, only when I'm experiencing the worst pain, and I don't have a cane or anything to show it.

So okay, silently judge me for not giving a seat to the mom holding a toddler, and I'll just keep bearing the pain that hopefully you will be lucky enough never to feel.

 

[LilyWDW]

Personally, I rarely sit on the bus or monorail. I figure that as long as I am able to walk/stand, there is probably someone who needs the seat more than I do. My DD15 has adopted the same philosophy. She rarely sits either.

I am bothered when I see someone holding a child or in obvious need of a seat made to stand. Am I judging? I sure am. Do I say anything to the person? No, it's not my place. In the end all I can do is what I think is right.

I get bothered by the fact that the person holding the child or who needs a seat got on a standing room only bus. Yes, there will be a few times where it can be hard to tell, but it is usually pretty easy to know. If you need a seat, then wait for the next bus instead of expecting others to stand for you. It is about personal responsibility.

 

[Hannathy]

I find the idea that only men should offer their seats to those in need horribly old fashioned, and not in a good way. We should all do what we can to help each other out, male or female.

Having said that, I think it is horribly inappropriate to get on a bus/monorail/boat that is standing room only, expecting someone to offer you their seat. Be grateful when offered the courtesy, but don't expect it as your due. You truly don't know what is going on with other people and have no way of knowing if someone else needs their seat.

!00% agree!!!

If she didn't want to stand she shouldn't have gotten on the "ride". And offering a seat has nothing to do with the sex. If a seat should have been offered(and I don't think it should have been) then either a man or a woman could have done it.

Just like rides or shows seating is first come first served and if you want to go after all the seats are filled it is standing room only or wait till the next one.

So I have no problem with the situation, especially at Disney, she could have waited.

 

[jackson2422]

I didn't mean to imply that only men should give up their seat. Nor do I think you should get on a full train and expect someone to offer you a seat. We got on an empty train, and just happened to be the 10th person or so on the train. Common sense and common courtesy are to offer your seat to someone standing with a kid on their hip. I suppose it's possible that everyone seated on that train had some sort of disability. Kudos to the young chap who offered his seat on a bus to my 9 year old today. She didn't take it, but it's the thought that counts.

 

[livndisney]

I didn't mean to imply that only men should give up their seat. Nor do I think you should get on a full train and expect someone to offer you a seat. We got on an empty train, and just happened to be the 10th person or so on the train. Common sense and common courtesy are to offer your seat to someone standing with a kid on their hip. I suppose it's possible that everyone seated on that train had some sort of disability. Kudos to the young chap who offered his seat on a bus to my 9 year old today. She didn't take it, but it's the thought that counts.

Common sense is not boarding a standing room only train knowing you need a seat.

 

[canopynut66]

kids do what they see growing up and sorry to say but not a whole lot of adults will not give up their seat for a pregnant woman or one holding a child nor do they want to get up when the signis there for handicap and then driver has to ask them to move and --some-- absolutely will not move? just baffles me

 

[Syndrome]

Here is one more perspective...........
I was raised right, with manners. Always holding doors for people, opening doors for women, giving up seats to women or someone else in need of a seat, etc.. But, in this day an age, the simple offering up of a seat to someone is sometimes grounds for an altercation of sorts. I have been talked down to and had people give me some nasty reactions more that once for offering my seat. Things like........"I am in perfectly good health to stand", or "do you think there is something wrong with me"??? Kind of sets you back a little bit, and make the rest of the ride uncomfortable. So I can slightly see why some may not offer to give up a seat. Most people dont like altercations or even "stranger" interaction.
Of course, the "Thanks" far outweighs the negative remarks you might get for offering a seat to someone. That said, I will still offer up my seat to anyone that needs it more that I do.
But, there is another side to it that some may not be thinking of..........just sayin.